So I guess this has been the talk of the internet the last few days. Not going to bother posting any links as I assume anyone with a passing interest is more than familiar with the Joe Rogan interview, etc. Can the final product live up to the hype? I wouldn't call myself a Tool fanatic by any means, but I am certainly interested to see how this turns out. As far as I'm concerned, they have had a fairly patchy discography, with Undertow and Aenima being their most consistent works. Lateralus and 10,000 Days were meandering, overly self-indulgent albums which have great moments but would test the patience of all but the most ardent fans.
I'd be more of a Lateralus and 10,000 Days man, personally :laugh:
I'm not a Tool nut by any means but this is one of the few new releases I find myself interested in.
Don't get me wrong, there's some amazing stuff on both but it's rare I'd have the time or patience required to give either my full attention. That said though, there's no doubt the new release will follow in this vein.
I thought 10,000 Days was poor to be honest. I can't see this new one living up to the weight of expectation but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
Quote from: John Kimble on July 31, 2019, 01:50:55 PM
As far as I'm concerned, they have had a fairly patchy discography, with Undertow and Aenima being their most consistent works. Lateralus and 10,000 Days were meandering, overly self-indulgent albums which have great moments but would test the patience of all but the most ardent fans.
Agree with all that. I actually haven't listened to Tool in years. They're a strange band, in that I find them to be less than the sum of their parts. I've spent more time listening to A Perfect Circle and Puscifer, the latter in particular. I must revisit them properly again. I reckon the new record will have brilliant moments but will have a lot of that meandering lark. Tool fans are a weird bunch too, regardless of how iffy the album might turn out to be, they will absolutely rave about how good it is.
I'm new to listening to Tool in the last 2 years or so. I'm not a mental big fan but this is one of the few albums I'm looking forward to this year.
They've barely put a foot wrong in my opinion, though I would count myself as a bit of a maniacal Tool fan, probably because they had an insane impression on me when I was 14. 10,000 days isn't as strong as Lateralus/Aenima (both incredible), but it has some of their best work on it still.
I saw them live in Lisbon recently and they aired two of the tracks that are going to be on this album and they were decent to great. New album definitely has the potential to be a very good one.
Quote from: Mags on July 31, 2019, 03:16:42 PM
They've barely put a foot wrong in my opinion, though I would count myself as a bit of a maniacal Tool fan, probably because they had an insane impression on me when I was 14. 10,000 days isn't as strong as Lateralus/Aenima (both incredible), but it has some of their best work on it still.
I saw them live in Lisbon recently and they aired two of the tracks that are going to be on this album and they were decent to great. New album definitely has the potential to be a very good one.
I was at that Lisbon show too, it was excellent. Would be of a similar opinion to above, I'm a big fan of Aenima and Lateralus mostly, enjoy the rest of their albums too but not as much as those. Severe soft spot for Opiate.
Looking forward to seeing how the new album is, ignoring hype because nobody is going to live up to their fans expectations after that long. Judging by the songs aired live, it should be good.
10,000 Days was a bit meandering, but Lateralus is just as good as Aenima to my ears. Looking forward to the new one, but prepping myself for another meanderer rather than another mind-blower. Will be glad to be pleasantly surprised though, of course.
Yeah, not overly enthused for it. Aenima and Lateralus is where it's at for me. Always found Undertow a tad one dimensional and 10,000 Days feels like justs that - there's maybe an EP worth of good songs on it.
I haven't been bowled over by the two new tracks they've aired at recent gigs, sounds like their mining the same territory which isn't what you want to hear when there's been a 13 year gap between records.
The most important part of Keenans announcement is that the Tool back catalogue is finally available on all streaming platforms from today, about time!
Be nice to have some physical reissues too, Aenima goes for stupid money
https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/979139012
For me they've always been a band where I'll like the songs on their own, but find it a slog to get through a full albums. Those new tracks seem a bit more of the same
Love Anemia, Lateralus has been one of my favourite records since it was released almost two decades ago. I enjoy the meandering, it's something to get absorbed in.
Undertow has some decent songs but was a formative release. 10,000 Days is a bag of wet shite, their worst album by a country mile. Sure I'd even listen to Opiate and Salival over it.
I'm not expecting anything from the new one to be honest. Adam Jones is a one trick pony and it's an old trick at this stage, wouldn't be surprised if there's a song about Maynard's vineyard too.
New song on repeat all afternoon here and it's pretty damn good. Really looking forward to the album now.
Yeah really fuckin enjoyed it. Surprised! When I turned it on I thought here we go, sound effects, widdly bass line but the whole thing is captivating, couple of twists vocally and Carey's drumming is unreal. Superb payoff at the end too. Can't wait for it to drop now.
Checked out the new track. Total meh. I'll still give the album a go. Could sit better in the context of an album.
See the 'deluxe' version?
https://www.kerrang.com/the-news/tools-new-album-comes-with-an-hd-screen-and-speaker/
They've been impressive with their packaging in the past but this is going a bit far. £76 on Amazon pre-order. It'd be nice and all but tough to justify shelling that out. The extra 10 mins. of music is a bit cynical on the marketing end of things too, IMO.
Word of warning; if you search for "new tool" in Google you'll possibly end up on an Interpol watch list. Proceed with caution...
Surprisingly cool song. The music is typical Tool- rudimentary riffs bordering on the pathetic brought to life by Cary's wild drumming. Maynard steals the show, I reckon. His melodies are just great. To be honest, I haven't followed them since Aenima, much of what I heard from the subsequent albums seemed like a box ticking exercise but this has me interested in checking out the new album and maybe giving the other two another go.
That statement stands for 10,000 days but not Lateralus which is a masterpiece.
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on August 07, 2019, 09:29:16 PM
That statement stands for 10,000 days but not Lateralus which is a masterpiece.
Agreed. Lateralus is just outstanding. Seen them at ozzfest not long after Lateralus was out and ozzy cancelled so they got an extra long set. They were unreal. And 10000 days is shyte.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on August 07, 2019, 07:54:33 PM
Word of warning; if you search for "new tool" in Google you'll possibly end up on an Interpol watch list. Proceed with caution...
??????
I'm intrigued!
Quote from: Ollkiller on August 07, 2019, 10:23:30 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on August 07, 2019, 09:29:16 PM
That statement stands for 10,000 days but not Lateralus which is a masterpiece.
Agreed. Lateralus is just outstanding. Seen them at ozzfest not long after Lateralus was out and ozzy cancelled so they got an extra long set. They were unreal. And 10000 days is shyte.
Agree with every word. I stuck on Lateralus for the first time in a while recently and spent several days with the whole album on repeat. Ozzfest 2002 was my first "big" gig and was pissed Ozzy didn't show, but to see Tool headline with Maynard prancing about in day-glow blue paint and hearing most of Lateralus was unreal.
10,000 Days is cack fer sure
New song is Tool by numbers, Jones is a one trick pony and his trick is old. The outro is the same as Eulogy.
Tool sound like Tool. Gasp!
Yeah, I've listened to it a few times now and I think it's class. It's unmistakably Tool but after all this time, I didn't really expect them to reinvent their sound. Don't really get the criticism of Jones, his playing has a certain distinctive style and sound which is as intrinsic to the overall sound of Tool as the other members. As as mentioned previously, probably easier to assess in the context of a full album.
Listened to it again this morning, it certainly sounds focussed, if the rest of the record is of that standard we're onto a winner. I'd agree it's hardly a reinvention but there's enough twists and subtle flourishes to make it sound fresh.
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on August 08, 2019, 06:20:55 AM
Tool sound like Tool. Gasp!
To be honest, it's a better track than anything on 10,000 Days, but for a band that are only shitting out their fifth album in 25 years it's derivative as fuck of their own music.
Jones' playing is fine in that it's more textural than front and centre, but it all bleeds together at this stage. There's a drum pattern about half way through that sounds like the intro to Reflection, as mentioned the outro is the same as Eulogy.
Again, I fucking love Lateralus and Aenemia, but I'm not one of those Tool loonies that think the band are above criticism. Undertow is good but merely a formative record and 10,000 Days is straight up shite.
No change in the palette, but the song does what a good song should; you get to the end and you want to listen to it again. Have to wait for the album though, I mean Vicarious was and is a quality track, unfortunately not representative of the whole album.
Although, I grew to enjoy 10,000 Days over time and still listen to it regularly.
Vicarious, Jambi and The Pot are all cracking tunes
new Tune is poor. There's a couple of flashes of something cool but most of the parts sound creepily similar to existing parts of earlier Tool songs. Very derivative. It's like a collage of Tool written by a Tool cover band.
Most of 10,000 Days shits on it
It's a grand tune. They have carved out their own quite unique sound so it's hardly a surprise that the new song fits that sound. Their music tends to work better as a full album so, roll on the 30th, I'm looking forward to hearing the whole thing.
I haven't listened to it much, only around 30 times is all and I think it is a Very Good Tool Song. I still listen to Lateralus and Aenima regularly after 20 odd years, but 10,000 days hardly ever gets a go. Each song on it is good on their own, but the whole album feels like something missing compared to the two brilliant ones.
Hopefully when all the hype dies back, we will be left with a Very Good Tool Album.
Not worth 13 years at all. The heavier bits are terrible. It's grand I suppose. Chocolate Chip Trip is the highlight.
Appears that the only CD format is the retarded LCD screen jobby for 75 GBP. They can get fucked at that.
There's no regular CD? Way to encourage piracy.
I'm near the end of my second spin and I'm actually enjoying it. Dunno how well it'll hold up to repeated listens but it's a big improvement over 10,000 Days.
7empest (what a fucking awful title) has a serious Undertow vibe to it.
On first listen, seems a bit like Lateralus but more spread out. Good album. Pneuma and 7empest are the highlights so far. Only thing is I'm not sold on the interludes between songs.
I've heard there will be a regular CD released eventually but can't confirm that. Just buy a FLAC download if you don't want to spend on the deluxe release. I have to admit the packaging on the deluxe looks amazing.
No CD other than the silly thing? No sale.
Lads 10,000 days has Vicarious, Jambi, The Pot and Right in Two, its a quality album.
I'd consider myself a hardcore Tool fan but christ the way people are calling this album their best is hilarious.
This comment from youtube has to be a troll
"Its the greatest album ever written. Ever. This album drove emotions out of me I didn't even know I had. 7empest made me cry. It was awe inspiring"
To me it just sounds like they morphed some Lateralus/10,000 days riffs and spread them out over the first few songs. A lot of meandering and that djembe type drumming gets old fast. As a casual fan, not much is sitting well with me on the first few listens apart from the last song.
Quote from: lifeeternal on August 30, 2019, 02:56:41 PM
Lads 10,000 days has Vicarious, Jambi, The Pot and Right in Two, its a quality album.
I'd consider myself a hardcore Tool fan but christ the way people are calling this album their best is hilarious.
This comment from youtube has to be a troll
"Its the greatest album ever written. Ever. This album drove emotions out of me I didn't even know I had. 7empest made me cry. It was awe inspiring"
Seeing as Vicarious, Jambi, The Pot and Right in Two are all shite songs...
If you want some epic cringe moments have a look at the Tool sub on Reddit. Holy fuck.
Quote from: Ducky on August 30, 2019, 03:46:11 PM
If you want some epic cringe moments have a look at the Tool sub on Reddit. Holy fuck.
Holy Mary Mother O Gawd. Fucking hell.
Quote from: Ducky on August 30, 2019, 03:46:11 PM
Quote from: lifeeternal on August 30, 2019, 02:56:41 PM
Lads 10,000 days has Vicarious, Jambi, The Pot and Right in Two, its a quality album.
I'd consider myself a hardcore Tool fan but christ the way people are calling this album their best is hilarious.
This comment from youtube has to be a troll
"Its the greatest album ever written. Ever. This album drove emotions out of me I didn't even know I had. 7empest made me cry. It was awe inspiring"
Seeing as Vicarious, Jambi, The Pot and Right in Two are all shite songs...
If you want some epic cringe moments have a look at the Tool sub on Reddit. Holy fuck.
Vicarious and Jambi are great songs. TBH not sure why people don't seem to think much of 10,000 Days, listened to it recently and it seems fine to me.
Quote from: lifeeternal on August 30, 2019, 10:51:18 AM
Not worth 13 years at all. The heavier bits are terrible. It's grand I suppose. Chocolate Chip Trip is the highlight.
I'm curious how many times you'd listened to this album before posting this?
I'm not a Tool fan at all (far from it - largely indifferent the majority of their work and the fanboy worship around them makes me physically sick), but I'd think an album where the majority of songs are in the 10 plus minute region might need a bit of time to be absorbed before being able to form an impression, regardless of how many years it took them to make it. Like did this leak a while ago or did you only hear it for the first time this morning when it was released?
By the same token though, some of the reviews I'm seeing seem almost entirely based on the "oh my god, I'm just so happy they've finally put this out" basis. I'm curious to see how people will feel about it a year from now.
Quote from: lifeeternal on August 30, 2019, 03:56:43 PM
Quote from: Ducky on August 30, 2019, 03:46:11 PM
If you want some epic cringe moments have a look at the Tool sub on Reddit. Holy fuck.
Holy Mary Mother O Gawd. Fucking hell.
Jesus christ...this post where someone literally explains the "big words" on the album for people who don't understand them. Wow. All this prattling on about the amazing hidden meanings in their discography and then this lad has to explain the word "Allegory"..
https://www.reddit.com/r/ToolBand/comments/cxbw6f/heres_a_definition_guide_to_all_the_big_words_on/
Quote from: Pentagrimes on August 30, 2019, 04:03:51 PM
Quote from: lifeeternal on August 30, 2019, 10:51:18 AM
Not worth 13 years at all. The heavier bits are terrible. It's grand I suppose. Chocolate Chip Trip is the highlight.
I'm curious how many times you'd listened to this album before posting this?
I'm not a Tool fan at all (far from it - largely indifferent the majority of their work and the fanboy worship around them makes me physically sick), but I'd think an album where the majority of songs are in the 10 plus minute region might need a bit of time to be absorbed before being able to form an impression, regardless of how many years it took them to make it. Like did this leak a while ago or did you only hear it for the first time this morning when it was released?
By the same token though, some of the reviews I'm seeing seem almost entirely based on the "oh my god, I'm just so happy they've finally put this out" basis. I'm curious to see how people will feel about it a year from now.
About 10 times, it leaked Monday. I like the album but as I said the heavy parts are not great, mainly due to the lack of Maynards presence (to these ears).
*edit
The first 10 times I've listened to it was late at night and doing literally nothing else and during my daily commute. I have it on in the kitchen while I'm cooking now and I'm enjoying it a lot more! :laugh:
Got as far as 7empest today thanks to bad traffic on M50, if it wasn't for long commutes, I'm not sure how I'd ever get to listen to anything these days. First impression is it's good. Dunno how someone could rate Chocolate Chip Trip as the highlight when it's a typical novelty type interlude. I very much doubt that any album could live up to a "thirteen year wait", it's not really Tool's fault that they have a fairly retarded fanbase. Must have a look at that sub reddit for the laugh. Anyway, back to the actual music, it certainly seems to be lacking in heavy moments. Part of me thinks that even though Maynard's vocals are such an intrinsic part of the band, the meandering nature of the music means that Tool are effectively now a post-rock band with vocals. I think the brutal simplicity of a track like Aenima sometimes serves them better.
Quote from: Pentagrimes on August 30, 2019, 04:27:53 PM
Quote from: lifeeternal on August 30, 2019, 03:56:43 PM
Quote from: Ducky on August 30, 2019, 03:46:11 PM
If you want some epic cringe moments have a look at the Tool sub on Reddit. Holy fuck.
Holy Mary Mother O Gawd. Fucking hell.
Jesus christ...this post where someone literally explains the "big words" on the album for people who don't understand them. Wow. All this prattling on about the amazing hidden meanings in their discography and then this lad has to explain the word "Allegory"..
https://www.reddit.com/r/ToolBand/comments/cxbw6f/heres_a_definition_guide_to_all_the_big_words_on/
Yeah, that's fairly cringe alright. Also bad are the numerous references to those who passed away over the last 13 years and how grateful we should be to be alive to witness this masterpiece.
Listened to it twice now today while working. It's good like, didn't want to turn it off at any point. Will sit down to it with a joint over the weekend.
Enjoying this despite its meandering nature. Super production. Maynard is really holding the songs together, is my initial impression, as musically it offers no surprises. Defo one for the car whenever the pauper CD edition gets released.
Plenty of these on YouTube but here's an unboxing link for the CD if anyone is curious....
https://youtu.be/FkF6AfkUSYo
I think it looks absolutely class and serious kudos for the effort that went into something that generally isn't given that much consideration. But I can't really justify that price. Christmas pressie maybe?
Quote from: Cosmic_Equilibrium on August 30, 2019, 04:03:03 PM
Quote from: Ducky on August 30, 2019, 03:46:11 PM
Quote from: lifeeternal on August 30, 2019, 02:56:41 PM
Lads 10,000 days has Vicarious, Jambi, The Pot and Right in Two, its a quality album.
I'd consider myself a hardcore Tool fan but christ the way people are calling this album their best is hilarious.
This comment from youtube has to be a troll
"Its the greatest album ever written. Ever. This album drove emotions out of me I didn't even know I had. 7empest made me cry. It was awe inspiring"
Seeing as Vicarious, Jambi, The Pot and Right in Two are all shite songs...
If you want some epic cringe moments have a look at the Tool sub on Reddit. Holy fuck.
Vicarious and Jambi are great songs. TBH not sure why people don't seem to think much of 10,000 Days, listened to it recently and it seems fine to me.
Mainly the songs just aren't there. But it kinda hangs together like two or three separate EPs on one disc, it feels kinda disjointed. The lyrics for The Pot and Vicarious are a bit too "obvious" and the songs about his mother (Jambi, Wings for Marie 1+ 2) make me uncomfortable.
Quote from: Pentagrimes on August 30, 2019, 04:27:53 PM
Quote from: lifeeternal on August 30, 2019, 03:56:43 PM
Quote from: Ducky on August 30, 2019, 03:46:11 PM
If you want some epic cringe moments have a look at the Tool sub on Reddit. Holy fuck.
Holy Mary Mother O Gawd. Fucking hell.
Jesus christ...this post where someone literally explains the "big words" on the album for people who don't understand them. Wow. All this prattling on about the amazing hidden meanings in their discography and then this lad has to explain the word "Allegory"..
https://www.reddit.com/r/ToolBand/comments/cxbw6f/heres_a_definition_guide_to_all_the_big_words_on/
I thought that one was absolutely spectacular. Aren't Tool fans supposed to be Intellectually Superior™?
I'll give the benefit of the doubt to folks who have English as a second language, but I looked through the list and all I could think is how limited is your vocabulary when you need those words explained?
LIMITED
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adjective
1.
restricted in size, amount, or extent; few, small, or short.
"a limited number of places are available"
synonyms: restricted, finite, bounded, little, narrow, tight, lean, slight, slender, in short supply, short
VOCABULARY
/və(ʊ)ˈkabjʊləri/
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noun
noun: vocabulary; plural noun: vocabularies
1.
the body of words used in a particular language.
"a comparison of the vocabularies of different languages"
synonyms: lexicon, word stock, lexis
"they are intelligent people with an extensive vocabulary"
the words used in a particular subject or sphere of activity or on a particular occasion.
"the vocabulary of law"
the body of words known to an individual person.
"he had a wide vocabulary"
a list of difficult or unfamiliar words with an explanation of their meanings, accompanying a piece of specialist or foreign-language text.
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In case anyone is struggling to follow the conversation.
Quote from: Ducky on August 31, 2019, 02:17:45 AM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on August 30, 2019, 04:27:53 PM
Quote from: lifeeternal on August 30, 2019, 03:56:43 PM
Quote from: Ducky on August 30, 2019, 03:46:11 PM
If you want some epic cringe moments have a look at the Tool sub on Reddit. Holy fuck.
Holy Mary Mother O Gawd. Fucking hell.
Jesus christ...this post where someone literally explains the "big words" on the album for people who don't understand them. Wow. All this prattling on about the amazing hidden meanings in their discography and then this lad has to explain the word "Allegory"..
https://www.reddit.com/r/ToolBand/comments/cxbw6f/heres_a_definition_guide_to_all_the_big_words_on/
I thought that one was absolutely spectacular. Aren't Tool fans supposed to be Intellectually Superior™?
I'll give the benefit of the doubt to folks who have English as a second language, but I looked through the list and all I could think is how limited is your vocabulary when you need those words explained?
You are talking about people who think that Maynards use of the word juxtaposition makes him a literary god. The type of people who cream themselves over the obtuse bullshit spouted by academics, while not understanding a fucking word of it.
The lad from Abominable Electronics posted something utterly cringey onInstagram basically implying that people who make fun of Tool are jocks. The persecution complex is astounding. I was bullied mercilessly in school and I assure you it hasn't made me appreciate Tool at all.
https://youtu.be/EShM-EOAlj4
This sums them up fairly well :laugh:
The only shit thing is that it was made by Metal Sucks. Funny video though. I know Tool fans have that rep but I've never witnessed it. I'm assuming there's a Tool forum where these gimps go to never get their hole?
I do laugh at the lads posting pictures of themselves and their 50 quid CD and bottles of Keenan's wine and think of the bit in Hooker With a Penis -
"All you read and wear or see and hear on TV is a product begging for your fatass dirty dollar". Hook, line and sinker.
Pretty sure the band are as put off by the hardcore dribblers as much as any sane person, but they've figured out how to monetised that idiocy for themselves.
Quote from: Wiseblood on August 31, 2019, 12:06:54 PM
https://youtu.be/EShM-EOAlj4
This sums them up fairly well :laugh:
Brilliant! I remember reading about one of their songs following a Fibonacci sequence, why the fuck anyone would do this or think it is cool is beyond me.
Quote from: jpm4 on August 31, 2019, 01:36:59 PM
Quote from: Wiseblood on August 31, 2019, 12:06:54 PM
https://youtu.be/EShM-EOAlj4
This sums them up fairly well :laugh:
Brilliant! I remember reading about one of their songs following a Fibonacci sequence, why the fuck anyone would do this or think it is cool is beyond me.
That's Lateralus and it is cool. Incorporating maths and philosophy into your music isn't something you'll see every day, don't see why they should be ridiculed for it.
It's the absolute warpo fans that think anything that if you're into anything that isn't Tool then you are automatically an idiot and one that that knows nothing about music are the problem.
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Quote from: Ducky on August 31, 2019, 01:52:13 PM
Quote from: jpm4 on August 31, 2019, 01:36:59 PM
Quote from: Wiseblood on August 31, 2019, 12:06:54 PM
https://youtu.be/EShM-EOAlj4
This sums them up fairly well :laugh:
Brilliant! I remember reading about one of their songs following a Fibonacci sequence, why the fuck anyone would do this or think it is cool is beyond me.
That's Lateralus and it is cool. Incorporating maths and philosophy into your music isn't something you'll see every day, don't see why they should be ridiculed for it.
Just strikes me as pompous , if you think it's cool then grand. If some Tool fans need help with big words in the lyrics then I wonder what they'd get out of a Fibonacci sequence.
Tool,a band i never got,a band that completely passed me by my whole metal life.
In fairness all this talk about then has made me go back and listen to them out of curiosity. My ex was a big fan and none of the stuff she played me ever really clicked bar a song here or there but I think Aenima was the album she played most. Certainly wasnt overly taken with the music when I saw them in the point,enjoyed the spectacle though.
The rabid fanbase thing is surprising to me, similar to the kind of devotion Muse had/have. I like them but I don't understand why people go so fucking nuts over them. I used to play in a band, over 15 years ago, where the guitarist was massively into Tool. I was a good few years older than all of them and used to regale them with tales of gigs from the late 80's when they were not long beyond the embryo stage. As his second favourite band was RATM, I showed him my ticket-stub from when RATM played the Tivoli in the early 90's. Tool were supposed to support but we got fucking Whipping Boy instead in a classic cunt move, as they had just signed to Sony/Epic, but Tool was still printed on the ticket. I showed him the stub and he started to well up, it really upset him. His two favourite bands ever and he was unaware this gig ever took place. It really, really upset him :laugh: Of course, seeing this, I strung him along telling him how great Tool were in this tiny venue, Paul D'Amour on bass, yak yak yak, followed by RATM touring their debut album, Wilk playing facing away from the crowd, until he countered one day with "I CHECKED A TOOL GIG HISTORY AND IT SAID THEY NEVER PLAYED HERE THAT YEAR!!!" at which point I came clean to much laughter. Not from him, though. I'm not sure he ever fully forgave me. He was a good bloke, all the same.
I try not to let other people influence what I think of bands, If I did, there wouldn't be much left to listen to. There seems to be something similar among Kyuss fans. Bands are great but to go la-la over just one doesn't make any sense. Great music is beautiful, get as much of it in as you can no mater who fucking plays it.
Just picked up the new album, will give it a go tomorrow.
Quote from: jpm4 on August 31, 2019, 01:36:59 PM
Brilliant! I remember reading about one of their songs following a Fibonacci sequence, why the fuck anyone would do this or think it is cool is beyond me.
Certainly that's what a Tool fan would tell you! It's a pretty cool little Easter egg type thing. What's important, the only thing that qualifies it for being "cool" at all, is that the quality of the music, in this case, more than surpasses the gimmick. Ultimately it's not so different to writing music or poetry to fit any given conventional form; haiku, dithyramb, sonnet, limerick, etc.
Gave 10000 Days a listen today, for the first time in years. There's maybe 4 really good songs, and even then there's only parts of the songs where they really hit the heights. They're brilliant at the drawn out tension but sadly lacking in the necessary relief. Gonna revisit their back catalog in the next few days before giving the new one a go.
And Juggz, while Whipping Boy are an awful choice as support for RATM, they were a superb band. They released my favourite Irish album ever.
Can't argue with that, I like Heartworm a lot. They were the wrong band in the wrong place that night, though, especially when it could have been the kind of gig which would make a grown man cry.
Aye, could have been a proper double header, in fairness.
Grand I suppose.
Is this getting a vinyl release lads? Thought I seen it was somewhere but seems to be no updates...
Few listens in and enjoying it. It feels more instrumentally driven than previous albums and Maynard's vocals, while very good, are quite noticeably reined in. It's missing the massive climaxes I think and the album never feels like it goes into 5th gear.
For the moment, I'm enjoying it more with every listen, which means it's doing its job. True enough comment about no shift into 5th gear Mags, but maybe the whole thing will instead lift to another level. Don't know why I'm making this comparison, but the likes of DcD or even BoC never exactly shift into 5th gear, doesn't always have to be the objective. I say maybe, let's see.
I have it on repeat since Monday morning when I got the cd, and it is getting better and better each time. There is just so much going on that I don't see how anybody could make up their mind off one listen or any one song. Lateralus has been my favourite since it came out and this is shaping up nicely to be every bit as good as it. It's so heavy I just can't help turning it up and up every time it's on. There's a real sort of serpentine groove running through the whole thing and parts that felt sort of stilted at first are clicking into place more and more.
Also a special mention for the special edition cd. I paid 40 dollars for it before shipping and it feels like I got it cheap. It is a really classy piece of work and doesn't feel in any way gimmicky or shit. Anyone else here get one?
The only gripe I have with the whole thing is every time I pull up somewhere in the car it's taking me 5 or 6 minutes to get out of it, just sitting there until the end of whichever song is on
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Maybe it comes across better on the special edition CD but it's only really dawning on me how dull the artwork is. I'm sure it's connected in some way to mathematical sequence or whatever, but it just looks like some unimaginative offering from the late 90's. The logo isn't great either.
Pretty sure the logo is supposed to look like two syringes to tie in with the title.
Hadn't copped the syringes. The artwork looks like a tongue of eyes disappearing down a throat.
The special edition seems cool, but I don't think I could bring myself to buy a piece of plastic I wouldn't use. Even in the car I stream.