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Title: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on December 15, 2020, 10:52:17 AM
New movie Phil Lynott: Songs For While I'm Away

https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/artsandculture/arid-40190322.html

Great band and what a cool cat Phil was. A true rock legend.
I only have Jailbreak (1976) and Renegade (1981) on LP. I really must address additional Lizzy purchases to my collection, as well as Phil's solo stuff.
Such a shame they never truly broke into the American market.
Oh those twin guitars, niiiiice.....

Parisienne Walkways (live)

https://youtu.be/18FgnFVm5k0
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on December 15, 2020, 10:55:13 AM
Alas, I was too young to have ever caught them live.
But Live And Dangerous (1978), what an album (dubs & all)..!!
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: ldj on December 15, 2020, 11:00:01 AM
Robbo was always my favourite Lizzy guitarist, that solo at the end of the Live and Dangerous version of Still In Love With You is a classic, not the flashiest, but just amazing melodic playing.

Gary was a legend but I always thought he had a tendency to overplay a bit, like he was trying to show he was better than Gorham, whereas Robbo/Gorham were working together.
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 15, 2020, 11:23:17 AM
Awesome band, but Parisienne Walkways is almost like a parody song. Was never a fan of Gary Moore, even Out In The Fields brushes against musical parody! The Robbo/Gorham combo was unbeatable.

Edit: Gorham/Sykes was also fairly unbeatable, has to be said!
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on December 15, 2020, 11:41:03 AM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 15, 2020, 11:23:17 AM
Awesome band, but Parisienne Walkways is almost like a parody song. Was never a fan of Gary Moore, even Out In The Fields brushes against musical parody! The Robbo/Gorham combo was unbeatable.

Edit: Gorham/Sykes was also fairly unbeatable, has to be said!
You'd love the B-side to that single.....

https://youtu.be/RRU4jZmrXFk
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Carnage on December 15, 2020, 02:23:41 PM
Parisienne Walkways was a Gary Moore solo song that Lynott featured on, so doesn't really have much relevance.

I'm more a fan of the early material, with Bell as guitarist. Much more interesting than the later stuff - which is great, obviously (apart from the last 2 albums, which were too cheesy overall) - a shame they didn't last longer in that incarnation.
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Pedrito on December 15, 2020, 02:48:41 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 15, 2020, 11:23:17 AM
Awesome band, but Parisienne Walkways is almost like a parody song. Was never a fan of Gary Moore, even Out In The Fields brushes against musical parody! The Robbo/Gorham combo was unbeatable.

Edit: Gorham/Sykes was also fairly unbeatable, has to be said!

Huh? What the jaaaaysis are ye talking bout? Is parody a good thing here? Class songs.
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Pedrito on December 15, 2020, 02:54:54 PM
Love Lizzy and in a way I get what Chris is saying in terms of parody and humour was an all too essential aspect of songwriting back in the day that modern life seems to have no way to contend with. We've become so literal and binary in the way we see things. A great album is Phil's second album 'the PL album' that features Mark Knopfler and Midge Ure amongst others. Lots of humour mixed in with topics that snowflakes would shrivel up in a corner at these days. A man of many hues and contradictions, a complex and unique character and the music reflects all of that complexity.

As for Lizzy..well they really have some of the greatest tunes ever. Emerald, Balck Rose, Southbound. The list is endless. Love them.
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Anton Arcane on December 15, 2020, 02:56:12 PM
Sounds interesting. Must check these lads out.
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 15, 2020, 03:00:14 PM
Quote from: Pedrito on December 15, 2020, 02:48:41 PM
Huh? What the jaaaaysis are ye talking bout? Is parody a good thing here? Class songs.

:laugh:
All of Spinal Tap's songs are class too. Both of those songs sound more like they were written as parody than in earnest. But since they were written in earnest by the very OTT Moore, it makes them even funnier! The never-ending sustain note in Parisienne Walkways, especially on certain live versions; simply hilarious!  When Johnny Comes Marching Home on synth at the end of Out In The Fields, man, how can you not laugh at that?

Either way, entertaining as they may be, neither of them can hold a candle to any of Thin Lizzy proper's best.
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Pedrito on December 15, 2020, 04:20:44 PM
Aauugahhegh...I hear u though I wonder if that was just the craic back then before we all got stuck up our own holes about everythinhg :laugh:

Anyway..the only non-Slade Christmas song you'll ever need.

https://youtu.be/ZN2bcS9shuY

Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on December 15, 2020, 05:51:41 PM
Quote from: Pedrito on December 15, 2020, 04:20:44 PM
Aauugahhegh...I hear u though I wonder if that was just the craic back then before we all got stuck up our own holes about everythinhg :laugh:

Anyway..the only non-Slade Christmas song you'll ever need.

https://youtu.be/ZN2bcS9shuY
Aaaaaaand here's the Satanic version of the same song....

https://youtu.be/xXih6d8OY8E

Christmas doesn't get cooler than this!
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Jward on December 15, 2020, 07:28:06 PM
I'm a fan of all the guitarists tbh
And don't dismiss Gary Moore
What an incredible talent

I've read 3 books on Philo
His mother
Some English Rock journalist
And some fella from Carrigaline, Cork

A fascinating life

Pity he's gone, but some legacy left behind

https://youtu.be/2QTtXqDjNP4 (https://youtu.be/2QTtXqDjNP4)

(https://youtu.be/2QTtXqDjNP4)

Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: leatherface on December 16, 2020, 08:32:01 AM
Just have 'Johnny The Fox' and 'Life Live'.

'Thunder and Lightning' is one I've been meaning to get, any use?

Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on December 16, 2020, 09:39:54 AM
Quote from: Anton Arcane on December 15, 2020, 02:56:12 PM
Sounds interesting. Must check these lads out.
It starts and ends with this classic....  :abbath:

https://youtu.be/wyQ-tScuzwM
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Slaughterday on December 16, 2020, 10:49:20 AM
Quote from: leatherface on December 16, 2020, 08:32:01 AM
Just have 'Johnny The Fox' and 'Life Live'.

'Thunder and Lightning' is one I've been meaning to get, any use?

Thunder and Lightning is their heaviest and best album. No filler tracks, which to be fair are usually dotted across most Lizzy albums.
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Pedrito on December 16, 2020, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: Jward on December 15, 2020, 07:28:06 PM
I'm a fan of all the guitarists tbh
And don't dismiss Gary Moore
What an incredible talent

I've read 3 books on Philo
His mother
Some English Rock journalist
And some fella from Carrigaline, Cork

A fascinating life

Pity he's gone, but some legacy left behind

https://youtu.be/2QTtXqDjNP4 (https://youtu.be/2QTtXqDjNP4)

(https://youtu.be/2QTtXqDjNP4)

Gary Moore was probably Lizzy's most talented guitarist. The idea that he could be somehow dismissed is literally absurd. His performance on the Black Rose album is second to none. Times change and tastes change but that album, and the title track especially, are stone cold Lizzy classics that spawned a million imitators. Without Lizzy there's no Maiden, and I would probably say Power Metal, Epic Metal, Pirate metal, whatever is overblown and bombastic and has duelling guitars i.e. almost the whole 1980's.

I read the one by his mother and another one called The Rocker: both excellent. An amazing story in so many ways.
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Carnage on December 16, 2020, 11:46:42 AM
The Rocker was Mark Putterford's one, if memory serves. Got me through a few night shifts when I was a security guard, great read. His mother's one was decent, if far from objective. I must pick up the updated version.

Thunder And Lightning isn't great IMO, nor is Renegades. A few good tracks between them but quute cheesy overall. Probably for the best that they didn't last much longer.
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 16, 2020, 11:56:34 AM
I love Thunder & Lightning personally.
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: open face surgery on December 16, 2020, 07:27:03 PM
Quote from: leatherface on December 16, 2020, 08:32:01 AM
Just have 'Johnny The Fox' and 'Life Live'.

'Thunder and Lightning' is one I've been meaning to get, any use?

Ya, it's the metal album really. They do drag the bollocks out of a few songs but the good outweights the bad.
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: CorkonianHunger on December 16, 2020, 10:23:29 PM
Best band to walk the Earth
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on December 16, 2020, 10:32:56 PM
Quote from: CorkonianHunger on December 16, 2020, 10:23:29 PM
Best band to strut the Earth
Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 16, 2020, 10:36:47 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on December 16, 2020, 10:32:56 PM
Quote from: CorkonianHunger on December 16, 2020, 10:23:29 PM
Best band to strut the Earth
Fixed that for you.

:laugh:
Had the very same thought. How often can that be said to happen between the two of us?  ;) :abbath:
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: CorkonianHunger on December 17, 2020, 12:27:11 AM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on December 16, 2020, 10:32:56 PM
Fixed that for you.

Hah true, probably not the easiest to play in platform shoes. Gorham made it his signature stance anyways.
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on December 18, 2020, 06:39:29 AM
Rumblin in Crumlin....

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2020/1217/1185140-new-plaque-unveiled-for-thin-lizzy-star-phil-lynott/
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: DaveG on December 18, 2020, 09:38:46 PM
I like Lizzy a lot, but Chinatown is about the only one I'd go through without skipping tracks.

Black Rose is a great record but Sarah - come on.
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on December 26, 2020, 09:48:13 AM
Phillo & Gay B.....

https://youtu.be/m5UJO4pn0ZY
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on December 26, 2020, 09:51:44 AM
Documentary....

Pt.1: https://youtu.be/KHVHpbAInD0

Pt.2: https://youtu.be/WaCOB4pkhHU

Pt.3: https://youtu.be/CjtR0SjlPtE

Pt.4: https://youtu.be/fpgJl3T59OA
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Giggles on December 27, 2020, 12:28:13 AM
Quote from: DaveG on December 18, 2020, 09:38:46 PM
I like Lizzy a lot, but Chinatown is about the only one I'd go through without skipping tracks.

Black Rose is a great record but Sarah - come on.

Jailbreak is the only Lizzy album I own - I'd never skip a track on it!
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Buer on December 27, 2020, 01:07:15 AM
The rocker & Emerald🤘
Title: Re: Thin Lizzy
Post by: Blitzer666 on December 27, 2020, 05:29:06 PM
One of the most overrated rock bands around.