Admittedly it was well into 1998 before I became acquainted with this gem. Could hardly believe my ears when Night's Blood burst out of the Sound Cellar's speakers. A quarter of a century later it's still in my top five metal albums of all genres with my favourite Necrolord artwork to boot. It's so far superior to their debut it's hard at times to imagine it's the same band. Any other fans?
Amazing album,really is a stone cold classic.
Brilliant album.
Same age as meself.
It's a spectacular album. The Somberlain is pretty high up there too though. !
Really good album. I'd still pick Somberlain over it any day of the week but it's still great
I could never warm to the Somberlain in quite the same way. Black Horizons and the title track are as good as anything on their magnum opus but none of the remaining tracks packed quite the same punch. I've had this conversation with many friends of mine who are evenly split over which of the two they'd rank higher. One thing's for certain. It must've been something else being old enough to appreciate Slaughter of the Soul, Storm of the Light's Bane and the Gallery being released within the space of a fortnight. Not sure we'll ever be as lucky again.
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I could never warm to the Somberlain in quite the same way. Black Horizons and the title track are as good as anything on their magnum opus but none of the remaining tracks packed quite the same punch. I've had this conversation with many friends of mine who are evenly split over which of the two they'd rank higher. One thing's for certain. It must've been something else being old enough to appreciate Slaughter of the Soul, Storm of the Light's Bane and the Gallery being released within the space of a fortnight. Not sure we'll ever be as lucky again.
Yes, many have tried and failed to replicate what was done on that album. Somberlain just isn't as good.
By the way are you familiar with the band TrveSovereign?
Never heard of them but will throw on later. Cheers for heads up. \m/
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Quote from: vinterland on November 17, 2020, 03:32:29 PM
I could never warm to the Somberlain in quite the same way. Black Horizons and the title track are as good as anything on their magnum opus but none of the remaining tracks packed quite the same punch. I've had this conversation with many friends of mine who are evenly split over which of the two they'd rank higher. One thing's for certain. It must've been something else being old enough to appreciate Slaughter of the Soul, Storm of the Light's Bane and the Gallery being released within the space of a fortnight. Not sure we'll ever be as lucky again.
Yes, many have tried and failed to replicate what was done on that album. Somberlain just isn't as good.
By the way are you familiar with the band TrveSovereign?
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Quote from: vinterland on November 17, 2020, 03:32:29 PM
It must've been something else being old enough to appreciate Slaughter of the Soul, Storm of the Light's Bane and the Gallery being released within the space of a fortnight. Not sure we'll ever be as lucky again.
Songs off the 3 albums were on one of the Terrorizer cds back in the day!,fuckin blew my 16 year old mind!
I was somewhere between Sepultura, Sodom and Kreator at the time so had no idea of either the black or death metal genres from a melodic viewpoint. I can only imagine how that Terrorizer CD would've sounded with tracks from those three seminal releases all of which have stood the test of time.
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Quote from: vinterland on November 17, 2020, 03:32:29 PM
It must've been something else being old enough to appreciate Slaughter of the Soul, Storm of the Light's Bane and the Gallery being released within the space of a fortnight. Not sure we'll ever be as lucky again.
Songs off the 3 albums were on one of the Terrorizer cds back in the day!,fuckin blew my 16 year old mind!
Quote from: vinterland on November 17, 2020, 08:38:19 AM
Admittedly it was well into 1998 before I became acquainted with this gem. Could hardly believe my ears when Night's Blood burst out of the Sound Cellar's speakers. A quarter of a century later it's still in my top five metal albums of all genres with my favourite Necrolord artwork to boot. It's so far superior to their debut it's hard at times to imagine it's the same band. Any other fans?
Thats debatable as they are both amazing releases and I hate picking between the two of them as they are both that good and not much separates them.
I tend to listen to Somberlain more than storm as I like the instrumental stuff from Zwetsloot and the album feels a little bit darker. The Somberlain art work is legendary also.
According to Dan Swano they were really hung over for Storms recording which made the recording a little bit more aggressive which worked out nicely.
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Quote from: vinterland on November 17, 2020, 03:32:29 PM
It must've been something else being old enough to appreciate Slaughter of the Soul, Storm of the Light's Bane and the Gallery being released within the space of a fortnight. Not sure we'll ever be as lucky again.
Songs off the 3 albums were on one of the Terrorizer cds back in the day!,fuckin blew my 16 year old mind!
That was one of the best comp cds ever released Id say.
Johan Norman that played on the Storm album has a new album out with Trident called North which has some Dissection type tracks on it which arent bad.
Black Horizons from Germany did a great Dissection type album a dreams funeral that's well worth checking out.
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Quote from: vinterland on November 17, 2020, 03:32:29 PM
It must've been something else being old enough to appreciate Slaughter of the Soul, Storm of the Light's Bane and the Gallery being released within the space of a fortnight. Not sure we'll ever be as lucky again.
Songs off the 3 albums were on one of the Terrorizer cds back in the day!,fuckin blew my 16 year old mind!
That was one of the best comp cds ever released Id say.
It seems to have been the first ever CD compilation released with Terrorizer. The previous two were cassettes!
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Noize-Pollution-3/release/997123
Yeah thats the one,first time hearing The Crown too!,fuckin great cd!
Somberlain is a great listen but it is an album with lots of melodic interludes. A far more misanthropic sounding album and a real masterpiece.
Storm is a band that has just unleashed itself, no holding back, everything poured into the record, blood, sweat and guts. Like the man said I was obsessed with it. There are loads of great albums from that time but I'm not sure if any came as close to pure perfection as that one in terms of everything..image, vibe, musicianship, the vocals are incredible, the artwork, the lyrics..masterpiece. Another level altogether. Even the flippin album title: 'Storm of the fucking light's bane'..I'm still not quite sure what it means but it's just epic in every sense of the word.
Finding an album that can instantly transport you to another dimension, a completely different world, change your mindset, your attitude, how you approach the day, your entire mood..are there many like that in all reality? There are plenty that are a great listen but Storm has something metamorphic to it, some underlying magic emanating from it. Must stick it on asap.
And for all the snobbery, Slaughter of the Soul at the time was just immense. The tune on that compilation 'Under a Serpent Sun'..pure class
Totally agree on Slaughter of the soul ,fuckin amazing at the time.
Quote from: Pedrito on November 18, 2020, 08:19:19 AM
Somberlain is a great listen but it is an album with lots of melodic interludes. A far more misanthropic sounding album and a real masterpiece.
Storm is a band that has just unleashed itself, no holding back, everything poured into the record, blood, sweat and guts. Like the man said I was obsessed with it. There are loads of great albums from that time but I'm not sure if any came as close to pure perfection as that one in terms of everything..image, vibe, musicianship, the vocals are incredible, the artwork, the lyrics..masterpiece. Another level altogether. Even the flippin album title: 'Storm of the fucking light's bane'..I'm still not quite sure what it means but it's just epic in every sense of the word.
The last paragraph more or less sums up my feelings for SOTLB perfectly. It's entirely thanks to Judas that I listened to it in the Sound Cellar in the first place. Another album which ticks a lot of the same boxes is Sacramentum's "Far away from the Sun." It's not quite as good as Dissection in their prime but would share many similarities. Eventually reissued on Century Media. It almost goes without saying that "Welcome my Last Chapter" should also form part of the bucket list as we are on the subject of melodic black metal.
Finding an album that can instantly transport you to another dimension, a completely different world, change your mindset, your attitude, how you approach the day, your entire mood..are there many like that in all reality? There are plenty that are a great listen but Storm has something metamorphic to it, some underlying magic emanating from it. Must stick it on asap.
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Quote from: Pedrito on November 18, 2020, 08:19:19 AM
Somberlain is a great listen but it is an album with lots of melodic interludes. A far more misanthropic sounding album and a real masterpiece.
Storm is a band that has just unleashed itself, no holding back, everything poured into the record, blood, sweat and guts. Like the man said I was obsessed with it. There are loads of great albums from that time but I'm not sure if any came as close to pure perfection as that one in terms of everything..image, vibe, musicianship, the vocals are incredible, the artwork, the lyrics..masterpiece. Another level altogether. Even the flippin album title: 'Storm of the fucking light's bane'..I'm still not quite sure what it means but it's just epic in every sense of the word.
Finding an album that can instantly transport you to another dimension, a completely different world, change your mindset, your attitude, how you approach the day, your entire mood..are there many like that in all reality? There are plenty that are a great listen but Storm has something metamorphic to it, some underlying magic emanating from it. Must stick it on asap.
The last paragraph more or less sums up my feelings for SOTLB perfectly. It's entirely thanks to Judas that I listened to it in the Sound Cellar in the first place. Another album which ticks a lot of the same boxes is Sacramentum's "Far away from the Sun." It's not quite as good as Dissection in their prime but would share many similarities. Eventually reissued on Century Media. It almost goes without saying that "Welcome my Last Chapter" should also form part of the bucket list as we are on the subject of melodic black metal.
I had Sacramentum Far Away and coul never get away from the feeling of them being a clone. Listening to it here with fresh ears it's very impressive. I wonder how it was received at the time? Was it seen as being a clone or simply didn't get noticed?
I definitely didnt see them as a clone,even though that terrorizer comp was my first introduction to Sacramentum.I didnt pursue the bands releases until years later.
Are they one of those bands that should have been bigger than they were?.
They seem to just go under the radar a bit alright.
Amazing album. The alternative mix is also savage. Was only made aware of it a few years back. Higher drum mix and just sounds more violent.
Quote from: Paul keohane on November 18, 2020, 05:08:50 PM
I definitely didnt see them as a clone,even though that terrorizer comp was my first introduction to Sacramentum.I didnt pursue the bands releases until years later.
Are they one of those bands that should have been bigger than they were?.
They seem to just go under the radar a bit alright.
Adipocere Records were never going to have the marketing prowess of Nuclear Blast, Century Media or Peaceville so Sacramentum's full length debut definitely didn't get the recognition it merited upon its release in 1996. I was unable to acquire a copy until 2013 when Century Media did what is does best and exposed this masterpiece to a whole new audience. I only recently discovered they made a video for Fog's Kiss, the album opener.
Another great band from around that time was Dawn.
Quote from: Cailleach on November 18, 2020, 07:08:22 PM
Another great band from around that time was Dawn.
Slaughtersun is outstanding. The vocalist Henke Forss also did vocals for In Flames on their Subterranean EP. Naglfar's Vittra and Noctes' Pandemonic Requiem also well worth a shout. Wish both would've stuck with the respective formulae on their subsequent releases.
Quote from: open face surgery on November 18, 2020, 06:21:57 PM
Amazing album. The alternative mix is also savage. Was only made aware of it a few years back. Higher drum mix and just sounds more violent.
Yes! The alternative mix is unreal. The rawness suits the songs a lot better. It comes as a second cd on some reissues.
All the Dawn material is great, as is the first Sacramentum LP. I even have a soft spot for the post Dissection band, Soulreaper. The 'Life Erazer' is more of a straightforward death metal album, but the instrumental parts and certain riffs have the Dissection feeling.
Stone cold classic. So glad I saw them before the drama. Never heard the alternative mix. Will get on that.
Are you lads talking about a Storm alternatove mix or Sacramentum? Dawn Slaughtersun an unreal album.
Quote from: Pedrito on November 18, 2020, 09:07:02 AM
And for all the snobbery, Slaughter of the Soul at the time was just immense. The tune on that compilation 'Under a Serpent Sun'..pure class
I'm not into the Slaughter of the Soul disparagement. It was a ground-breaking album, regardless of what desecrations were later committed on that ground. But Storm of the Light's Bane is more comparable to The Red In The Sky imho, in terms of energy, sonic aesthetic, etc.,... and all the better for it.
Quote from: Pedrito on November 18, 2020, 11:14:49 PM
Are you lads talking about a Storm alternatove mix or Sacramentum?
Storm Of The Light's Bane, the 2006 reissue.
Jaysis must give that a blast.
I had forgotten that Andy LaRoque played the solo on ATGs' Cold...in what alchemists cave was that lad spawned? Reading here that they bumped into him in a supermarket and asked him if he would add a solo on the album. He recorded it and it was so good they contemplated not including it because of how difficult it would be to play live.
https://youtu.be/Mvv_Nb5MKQ0
Some performance here.
Quote from: Pedrito on November 19, 2020, 09:10:53 AM
https://youtu.be/Mvv_Nb5MKQ0
Some performance here.
Have this on VHS at home signed by Shagrath and Silenoz after the EDT gig in Leeds. Unforgettable performance by both bands. Cradle would've performed at the same venue as part of their Dusk and her Embrace tour. Would've been some occasion to have been present at.
Great interview here with Stuart Anstis from COF where he talks about that tour and gives some insights on Jon Nodtveidt.
https://player.fm/series/scars-and-guitars/episode-66-stuart-anstis-ex-cradle-of-filth-for-scars-and-guitars-on-4zzz-zed-digital
Jesus that remastered version is blistering. What a performance by the drummer.
DAWN were great alright, Slaughtersun as mentioned is excellent and the SORGH.... EP they did is cool too. The drummer Asklund went on to play on Reinkaos and the tour of course, and there was talk years back of Dawn getting going again but it never happened unfortunately...
Unanimated is the other standout in this era of course for any who haven't heard Ancient God of Evil...
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Quote from: vinterland on November 17, 2020, 03:32:29 PM
It must've been something else being old enough to appreciate Slaughter of the Soul, Storm of the Light's Bane and the Gallery being released within the space of a fortnight. Not sure we'll ever be as lucky again.
Songs off the 3 albums were on one of the Terrorizer cds back in the day!,fuckin blew my 16 year old mind!
That was one of the best comp cds ever released Id say.
It seems to have been the first ever CD compilation released with Terrorizer. The previous two were cassettes!
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Noize-Pollution-3/release/997123
Bought so many great albums on the strength of that CD. Apart from the Akhenaton album. They stuck the only good song on that Terrorizer CD, the rest was shit.
Quote from: Floss on November 20, 2020, 01:41:53 PM
DAWN were great alright, Slaughtersun as mentioned is excellent and the SORGH.... EP they did is cool too. The drummer Asklund went on to play on Reinkaos and the tour of course, and there was talk years back of Dawn getting going again but it never happened unfortunately...
Unanimated is the other standout in this era of course for any who haven't heard Ancient God of Evil...
His drumming is excellent on that tour and Reinkaos.
Dissection have been somewhat blessed(in sin) with drummers as Ohman and Kelgren 's drumming was also excellent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpHYwKTMdrc&t=1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpHYwKTMdrc&t=1s)
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Quote from: vinterland on November 17, 2020, 03:32:29 PM
It must've been something else being old enough to appreciate Slaughter of the Soul, Storm of the Light's Bane and the Gallery being released within the space of a fortnight. Not sure we'll ever be as lucky again.
Songs off the 3 albums were on one of the Terrorizer cds back in the day!,fuckin blew my 16 year old mind!
That was one of the best comp cds ever released Id say.
It seems to have been the first ever CD compilation released with Terrorizer. The previous two were cassettes!
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Noize-Pollution-3/release/997123
Bought so many great albums on the strength of that CD. Apart from the Akhenaton album. They stuck the only good song on that Terrorizer CD, the rest was shit.
I bought that cd Divine Symphonies album which I found quite good,Wasnt mad on the later stuff.
Quote from: Floss on November 20, 2020, 01:41:53 PM
DAWN were great alright, Slaughtersun as mentioned is excellent and the SORGH.... EP they did is cool too. The drummer Asklund went on to play on Reinkaos and the tour of course, and there was talk years back of Dawn getting going again but it never happened unfortunately...
Unanimated is the other standout in this era of course for any who haven't heard Ancient God of Evil...
Totally forgot about Unanimated. They're probably marginally below some of the aforementioned bands but their first two albums are definitely worth investigating. Was supposed to see them at Netherlands Deathfest earlier this year where coincidentally Sacramentum were also going to give a full rendition of FAFTS. Will have to settle for Walpurigsnacht next year all going well.
Quote from: Pedrito on November 19, 2020, 04:30:51 PM
Jesus that remastered version is blistering. What a performance by the drummer.
Just listened to it today for the first time. Savage.
If we wanted to turn this into a versus thing, how do folk compare Storm... to Anthems..., which came out more or less two years later? It certainly, not as if any more were needed, makes that fuckin' Casio horn section all the more unforgivable!
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Quote from: Pedrito on November 19, 2020, 04:30:51 PM
Jesus that remastered version is blistering. What a performance by the drummer.
Just listened to it today for the first time. Savage.
If we wanted to turn this into a versus thing, how do folk compare Storm... to Anthems..., which came out more or less two years later? It certainly, not as if any more were needed, makes that fuckin' Casio horn section all the more unforgivable!
I'd opt for Storm any day of the week. The video for "The Loss and Curse of Reverence" certainly made me sit up and take notice when I first saw it on either Headbanger's Ball or Into the Pit shortly after Anthem's release. Having said that in no way did it compare to the buzz I felt on hearing Night's Blood, Where Dead Angels Lie or Thorns of Crimson Death for the first time. Its brilliance hasn't even remotely dimmed in the intervening quarter of a century. Dissection has always and will always carry a greater personal preference than Emperor. No offence to the latter.
Just banged it on for the first time in years - it's a masterpiece, easily the best black metal album of all time for me.
Glad I caught them live at The Village in 2004 - anyone else here at that gig?
Quote from: jpm4 on November 22, 2020, 09:10:05 PM
Just banged it on for the first time in years - it's a masterpiece, easily the best black metal album of all time for me.
Glad I caught them live at The Village in 2004 - anyone else here at that gig?
Was in Australia for two years at the time. Absolutely devestated to have missed it especially in the light of subsequent events.
Quote from: jpm4 on November 22, 2020, 09:10:05 PM
Glad I caught them live at The Village in 2004 - anyone else here at that gig?
Possibly my all time favourite gig,flawless!.Everthing on the night just fell into place,sound,set,crowd etc!,magical.
Here's a few fairly shitty pics from the gig in 2004:
https://ibb.co/album/g4vcpq
Can you find yourselves? Lol
That's class, just spotted my fine self. That was some gig though I don't remember it being packed in that way at all for some reason. Was a fantastic gig, and it was clear from moment Nodtveidt walked out on stage that he was light years ahead of anyone else on the stage that night. Gifted, so impressive.
Yeah! gang of us from Cork there in the photo.
Can see myself at the back with a full head of hair! :abbath:
Anyone know where I could get a decent mp3 of the first 2 albums? Looking at the usual sites, it's actually not easy to track down and I'm not paying amazon 15 quid for mp3's when I have the cd's sitting in a box back on the hallowed ground.
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Anyone know where I could get a decent mp3 of the first 2 albums? Looking at the usual sites, it's actually not easy to track down and I'm not paying amazon 15 quid for mp3's when I have the cd's sitting in a box back on the hallowed ground.
https://rawkbawx.rocks/torrents.php?search=Dissection
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Quote from: Pedrito on January 21, 2021, 10:19:16 AM
Anyone know where I could get a decent mp3 of the first 2 albums? Looking at the usual sites, it's actually not easy to track down and I'm not paying amazon 15 quid for mp3's when I have the cd's sitting in a box back on the hallowed ground.
https://rawkbawx.rocks/torrents.php?search=Dissection
Some boy. They could have done with you on Capitol Hill.
Great site that for BM....
Been listening to The Somberlain non stop all week. They were just streets ahead of everyone else. Epic!
Wonderful record. I remember being over the moon finding the Live In Stockholm 2004 CD in Into The Void years ago. The sound isn't great, but that album's recording of Where Dead Angels Lie is still the definitive version for me.
Just noticed the first 2 Dissection albums are now on Spotify at last which is great , one of the big Spotify metal gaps filled.
Yeah noticed that last week along with all the old Carcass material. About time!
Oh nice, I hadnt noticed that. Reinkaos was the only one up there for ages
Carcass has been back a few months now. Decapitated up as well.
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Such an amazing album.
Quote from: Pedrito on November 18, 2020, 08:19:19 AMSomberlain is a great listen but it is an album with lots of melodic interludes. A far more misanthropic sounding album and a real masterpiece.
Storm is a band that has just unleashed itself, no holding back, everything poured into the record, blood, sweat and guts. Like the man said I was obsessed with it. There are loads of great albums from that time but I'm not sure if any came as close to pure perfection as that one in terms of everything..image, vibe, musicianship, the vocals are incredible, the artwork, the lyrics..masterpiece. Another level altogether. Even the flippin album title: 'Storm of the fucking light's bane'..I'm still not quite sure what it means but it's just epic in every sense of the word.
Finding an album that can instantly transport you to another dimension, a completely different world, change your mindset, your attitude, how you approach the day, your entire mood..are there many like that in all reality? There are plenty that are a great listen but Storm has something metamorphic to it, some underlying magic emanating from it. Must stick it on asap.
I assumed the name meant like the onset of darkness. The bane of light is darkness, so it kind of means the light being stormed by darkness. Which for sure would fit in with Nodtveidt's ideologies...
Anyways, now 30 years old! Necro-ing this thread a little bit as I've been obsessed with this album of late so was looking for any previous discussion.
Purely coincidentally listened to it back to back with Ride the Lightning this morning (RtL first) and it was interesting how melodically similar they are. SotLB definitely lifts a lot of influence from it. I'm still in the honeymoon phase with it, but I can't think of a BM album I like better. Or most metal albums in general.
That guitar line in Where Dead Angels Lie that repeats then turns into a bit of a Slash type lick, it gets me every time.
Quote from: Mooncat on February 09, 2025, 05:07:32 PMQuote from: Pedrito on November 18, 2020, 08:19:19 AMSomberlain is a great listen but it is an album with lots of melodic interludes. A far more misanthropic sounding album and a real masterpiece.
Storm is a band that has just unleashed itself, no holding back, everything poured into the record, blood, sweat and guts. Like the man said I was obsessed with it. There are loads of great albums from that time but I'm not sure if any came as close to pure perfection as that one in terms of everything..image, vibe, musicianship, the vocals are incredible, the artwork, the lyrics..masterpiece. Another level altogether. Even the flippin album title: 'Storm of the fucking light's bane'..I'm still not quite sure what it means but it's just epic in every sense of the word.
Finding an album that can instantly transport you to another dimension, a completely different world, change your mindset, your attitude, how you approach the day, your entire mood..are there many like that in all reality? There are plenty that are a great listen but Storm has something metamorphic to it, some underlying magic emanating from it. Must stick it on asap.
I assumed the name meant like the onset of darkness. The bane of light is darkness, so it kind of means the light being stormed by darkness. Which for sure would fit in with Nodtveidt's ideologies...
Anyways, now 30 years old! Necro-ing this thread a little bit as I've been obsessed with this album of late so was looking for any previous discussion.
Purely coincidentally listened to it back to back with Ride the Lightning this morning (RtL first) and it was interesting how melodically similar they are. SotLB definitely lifts a lot of influence from it. I'm still in the honeymoon phase with it, but I can't think of a BM album I like better. Or most metal albums in general.
Think it referenced The End of the light.
Shame that 7 year hiatus denied us some more albums as there was an old interview where they mentioned they were writing new stuff and is was going to be heavier than Storm and more aggressive.
Often wondered if that Soul Reaper written in Blood album might have had some of those ideas and tracks as it was very Dissection sounding in parts and Nodveidt wasnt too happy with them coming out with that band/album.
Quote from: Circlepit on February 09, 2025, 07:21:41 PMThat guitar line in Where Dead Angels Lie that repeats then turns into a bit of a Slash type lick, it gets me every time.
That tune is far too close to circus music.
:laugh: Have to say that was my first thought too many moons ago.
Quote from: Ducky on February 09, 2025, 08:01:43 PMQuote from: Circlepit on February 09, 2025, 07:21:41 PMThat guitar line in Where Dead Angels Lie that repeats then turns into a bit of a Slash type lick, it gets me every time.
That tune is far too close to circus music.
A circus of brilliance I say.
Quote from: Circlepit on February 09, 2025, 10:40:24 PMQuote from: Ducky on February 09, 2025, 08:01:43 PMQuote from: Circlepit on February 09, 2025, 07:21:41 PMThat guitar line in Where Dead Angels Lie that repeats then turns into a bit of a Slash type lick, it gets me every time.
That tune is far too close to circus music.
A circus of brilliance I say.
I'd never actually noticed that until you pointed it out. I love that song and its melody, but that bluesy lick sounds a little out of place to me :laugh:
Quote from: Circlepit on February 09, 2025, 10:40:24 PMQuote from: Ducky on February 09, 2025, 08:01:43 PMQuote from: Circlepit on February 09, 2025, 07:21:41 PMThat guitar line in Where Dead Angels Lie that repeats then turns into a bit of a Slash type lick, it gets me every time.
That tune is far too close to circus music.
A circus of brilliance I say.
Like there's some cool enough stuff on the rest of the album (prefer the debut), but arrrggghhhh, I just fucking can't unhear the circus vibes.
I just showed my girlfriend the album cover and she thought they were called Dessert Time. Which is obviously hilarious given the nature of the band/Jon.
Even funnier, when you look at it it genuinely does look a bit like that.
Between Dessert Time and the circus we've thoroughly ruined the mystique of this band.
Quote from: Mooncat on February 10, 2025, 03:02:50 AMI just showed my girlfriend the album cover and she thought they were called Dessert Time. Which is obviously hilarious given the nature of the band/Jon.
Even funnier, when you look at it it genuinely does look a bit like that.
Between Dessert Time and the circus we've thoroughly ruined the mystique of this band.
No.
Dessert time at the circus of brilliance. It's killer and that guitar lick is brilliant.
Even the start of the album, that drum roll into that furious gallop type part.
No big tops in sight.
Ya, I can't hear it. Maybe I didn't go to enough circus (circi?) At a child.
I do agree it sounds nothing like a circus (Sweet Child O Mine had the same criticism and I don't hear it there either), I just thought it was funny combined with Dessert Time.
I also agree that it's a cool guitar lick, but also that such a bluesy sounding lick sounds out of place compared to what's going on around it. His sense of melody in general though is impeccable. They'd be one of those bands it'd be hard to take influence from because you'd just end up directly copying them.
Angels is the weakest song on the album - it's ok but sounds like they trying to write a hit or something, it's no Soul Reaper.
The live version of Angels on the rebirth DVD is great. Not my favourite song but only because all the rest is so good.
Le Clercq that did Bass on the last Dissection album recently gave an interview and talks about his time in the band,it's at the beginning.