Pretty strange we don't have a documentaries thread already, but no time like the present.
Just watched The Silence of Others, a Spanish documentary about people trying to get the amnesty law overturned so that perpetrators of crimes during the Franco regime can be brought to justice. Found it to download and English subtitles fairly easily (El Silencio de Otros is the original title). Recommended.
The Diego Maradona documentary is class. Probably been mentioned on here before but I only watched it recently.
Maradona has been portrayed as a villain by many, this might be a little wide of the mark. He could be callow - most of us would be if that level of fame and adulation was dropped on us at 18. He was reckless towards the end of his career but when you look at what he could do with a football, it's impossible to deny his genius.
I liked that the director managed to tell Maradona's story without the use of talking heads and has the man himself narrate it for the most part. The footage that they got their hands on for this film is excellent. The scene when he's brought into Stadio San Paolo after signing for Napoli is goosebump material.
Forgot about that, thanks for the reminder. What a genius with a ball.
Watched "Challenger: The Final Flight" over the past week or two. Worth a look.
Bbc I player has the 3 part Trump story up. It doesn't paint in a good light or his supporters but interesting to hear what some even on the Republican side are saying about him.
If Biden wins I think I might miss the crazy stories, but to be honest, even in defeat I think we'll still be hearing about Trump.
The Red Pill, available on Amazon.
Moved this here so as not to have a big discussion in the film thread. My take:
QuoteI can't remember the specific details, but I looked up and read through a critique of it, which seemed the thing to do. I do echo your recommendation though. My own criticism, what jumped out at my personal biases, is that they passed so superficially and quickly over what the London men's refuge lady was saying about how feminism began as a revolt against capitalism but was appropriated by the interests of bourgeois go-getter women. The root cause of the issues addressed lies, to my eyes, closer to where the original feminist movement located it. But the film gives no extra analysis to that point beyond the lady who mentions it, despite said lady being a key witness, so to speak, to male abuse being ignored.
Take it away Kev!
I don't think we'll disagree in substantive way (not a great spectator sport, this discussion!)
My biggest takeaway is the feminist dismissal of the men's issues raised, whereas there was little or no evidence of the contrary. As a man with disputed custody of a kid, my biases were fed by this film, but I think all but the most hardened feminists would learn a great deal, particularly about power imbalance and the commonly held views in gender violence.
I agree about the auld wan from London.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0799954/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0221023/
Two harrowing documentaries.
Quote from: blessed1 on November 12, 2020, 09:52:09 AM
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0799954/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0221023/
Two harrowing documentaries.
Nice one. I think I'll drop two tabs Fri night and pop those beauties on.
Oooh yeah, watched that Black Tar one years ago, it's fucked. Like a fever dream.
One I saw recently, that I was meaning to see for a while, the MIA documentary, Matangi/Maya/M.I.A
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3041550/
Very very interesting character. Would have liked if there was more of the politics of her father explored but it was well worth watching regardless. Definitely couldn't accuse her of being a sellout, and that Kala album goes underappreciated, I think.
Quote from: blessed1 on November 12, 2020, 09:52:09 AM
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0799954/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0221023/
Two harrowing documentaries.
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0799954/
Seen this sometime ago, while it's a difficult watch it's intriguing all the same.
Related to the reinforcement learning news I just posted in the Random Thoughts thread, I really consider the AlphaGo documentary to be essential viewing for anyone navigating this planet at this moment in history:
https://youtu.be/WXuK6gekU1Y
Just watched the Dawn Wall on Netflix. Fantastic.
Anyone seen this yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsjkhU_92Jc&feature=emb_title
Yeah, I've tried it.
You didn't like it enough to change your name though, no? Maybe I'll stick to the snow myself then too.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 13, 2021, 10:30:58 AM
You didn't like it enough to change your name though, no? Maybe I'll stick to the snow myself then too.
I can't remember... ::)
Actually watched that the other night.
It's not bad, if not entirely what I was expecting. It focuses on social conditions and consequences and to that end you do see the human cost a lot better than in some other pieces with a more general focus on that era. A lot more personal interviews with people affected. In that sense it did shed light on some areas I hadn't seen before. I would have liked to see them going more in depth on the higher political decisions that led to the situation, i.e the CIA and FBI operations, the Sandanista situation was very interesting but really felt like a footnote. The prison statistics at the end are frightening.
Related, spotted this was up on YouTube last night, remember seeing it when it came out. Grim doesn't even begin to cover it. Prescription opiates ravaging a small town in West Virginia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5xAu1csU_c
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on January 14, 2021, 11:35:59 AMRelated, spotted this was up on YouTube last night, remember seeing it when it came out. Grim doesn't even begin to cover it. Prescription opiates ravaging a small town in West Virginia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5xAu1csU_c
Which brung me to dis....
https://youtu.be/nkGiFpJC9LM
Will check out Crack later. In relation to that and the prison stats etc there's a great doc from a few years ago by David Simon called The House I Live In.
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 14, 2021, 11:38:29 AM
Which brung me to dis....
https://youtu.be/nkGiFpJC9LM
That looks genuinely disturbing. Started playing without sound here came back with a cup of coffee to be confronted by it.
"Dreamland" by Sam Quinones is well worth a read for anyone who wants to know more about the opioid crisis in the US.
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Jaysus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mva2nGveYss
^
I watched that last night, it was pretty good. A bad bastard he was.
Watched "Echo In The Canyon". Fairly pedestrian and safe but still reasonably enjoyable history of the Laurel Canyon scene in the 1960s. There's a singer, Jade Castrinos, who does a cover of The Mamas & The Papas "Go Where You Wanna Go" with Jakob Dylan - she can belt out a fucking tune. Never heard of her before - appears to be a session singer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRVFBQHBUls
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on January 14, 2021, 11:35:59 AM
Actually watched that the other night.
It's not bad, if not entirely what I was expecting. It focuses on social conditions and consequences and to that end you do see the human cost a lot better than in some other pieces with a more general focus on that era. A lot more personal interviews with people affected. In that sense it did shed light on some areas I hadn't seen before. I would have liked to see them going more in depth on the higher political decisions that led to the situation, i.e the CIA and FBI operations, the Sandanista situation was very interesting but really felt like a footnote. The prison statistics at the end are frightening.
A good summation. Just watched it there tonight, and several aspects felt like footnotes; maybe it just tried to tackle too many angles for a single documentary as opposed to series of three or four. The Netflix doc specifically about bias in the incarceration system, '13th', suffers less from that, and goes deeper into some of those "footnotes"
I enjoyed 13th. The bit about ALEC had me stumped. Unthinkably corrupt.
Currently rewatching The Century of Self by Adam Curtis. Had watched the first 2 parts a few years ago but never finished it. It's all up on YouTube. As with above it ties in with the total disregard and contempt for the general public by politicians and big business.
In the political domain, I personally have never seen anything to compare with Century of the Self, The Power of Nightmares, and The Trap. They're like the Carl Sagan's Cosmos of geopolitical eye-openers.
Been really neglecting the documentaries of late. Must rectify that soon. At one stage it was all I was watching.
Out of what is in this thread I think I've seen none of them
"Operation Odessa" - The story of a few lads from Miami acquiring ex-Soviet military vehicles for the Cali cartel. Lunatic level shit.
On Netflix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWQWc0FXkG4
That Operation Odessa one looks great. Absolute fuckin cowboys.
In a similarly drug-themed but far more somber vein, 'The Last Narc' on Amazon prime is excellent. It's the same subject matter as Narcos:Mexico, but goes into a lot more detail. Grim viewing.
Srruggle: The Life And Lost Art Of Szukalski - watched this on Netflix the other night. Some of his stuff is amazing, interesting documentary too:
https://youtu.be/sPkoW4cmqT8
Quote from: Carnage on May 31, 2021, 02:24:01 AM
Srruggle: The Life And Lost Art Of Szukalski - watched this on Netflix the other night. Some of his stuff is amazing, interesting documentary too:
https://youtu.be/sPkoW4cmqT8
This looks great, cheers for that.
I have been watching some interesting channels on YouTube that are done in documentary like form:
Fascinating Horror - Short but well done
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFXad0mx4WxY1fXdbvtg0CQ
The Fifth Estate
https://www.youtube.com/c/cbcfifth/videos
Bright Sun Films - They do video's on various topics:
https://www.youtube.com/c/BrightSunGaming/playlists
This documentary looks like it will be good, I watched a few video's on it and the guy who owned it was an absolute Scumbag, he didn't care about people's safety:
https://youtu.be/mqg48h_uKYM (https://youtu.be/mqg48h_uKYM)
I watched that a few weeks ago, it's very entertaining. Pure '80s madness.
Quote from: Carnage on June 15, 2021, 06:35:01 PM
I watched that a few weeks ago, it's very entertaining. Pure '80s madness.
Oh is it out, I thought they said August?
I watched it on Sky Documentaries at least a month ago.
Oh excellent. It could be found somewhere so. Thanks for that :abbath:
Yeah, just checked and it's still on it there.
I'm watching Classic Action Park. JESUS CHRIST Eugene Mulvihill was an absolute reprehensible piece of shit. Loads of injuries and even death and Mulvihill tried to make out that a young guy was working there when he got killed when he never worked at the park, and on top of that tried to make out it was the rock he hit his head off was what killed him not any problem with the ride itself. The list of horrendous occurrences goes on and on. The people working at the park were pissed or stoned or both and it basically children in charge of children.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfNozMdMr3Q
Good little doc about Kavanagh, Behan and O'Brien. The other 3 parts are there as well.
JESUS, how pissed was O'Brien at the start? :laugh:
Quote from: livingabortion on June 17, 2021, 12:21:34 PM
JESUS, how pissed was O'Brien at the start? :laugh:
"I'm confused as the whether this is an advertisement to drink heavily or not" :laugh:
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on June 17, 2021, 01:04:56 PM
Quote from: livingabortion on June 17, 2021, 12:21:34 PM
JESUS, how pissed was O'Brien at the start? :laugh:
"I'm confused as the whether this is an advertisement to drink heavily or not" :laugh:
:laugh:
And I doubt he could see clear enough to write in that state :laugh:
And throughout. As it turns out, it would seem it was at that stage of his career when he wrote The Third Policeman, which he was justly arrogant about at the end.
Ringing work saying that he had drank a bottle of undiluted miwadi and was getting sick since is a fuckin quality excuse. No sir, I def wasn't drinking. hahaha.
Just watched Black Holes: The Edge Of All We Know on Netflix, interesting enough. Mainly about the process of putting that image together, alongside a panel of astrophysicists working on a groundbreaking piece of research into black holes. Good stuff.
Not sure if this is mentioned already but there is some good docs on a particular west cork murder. Netflix has a good one coming soon and the Jim Sheridan one so far is good. Some details coming as news to me.
Quote from: livingabortion on June 16, 2021, 06:31:30 PM
I'm watching Classic Action Park. JESUS CHRIST Eugene Mulvihill was an absolute reprehensible piece of shit. Loads of injuries and even death and Mulvihill tried to make out that a young guy was working there when he got killed when he never worked at the park, and on top of that tried to make out it was the rock he hit his head off was what killed him not any problem with the ride itself. The list of horrendous occurrences goes on and on. The people working at the park were pissed or stoned or both and it basically children in charge of children.
That's available to watch over here?
Action Park was the fucking greatest amusement park ever. Went a few times in the 80s and early 90s. There was always the possibility you could get hurt (and judging by the photos of concrete burn victims they had at the top of the Alpine Slide ride - hurt badly) , probably added to the whole thing.
Good times.
Watched It Might Get Loud there, having never gotten round to it til now. Really entertaining, even if The Edge mainly serves as comic relief. "When I saw Spinal Tap, I didn't laugh, I wept!" has to be one of the most historic quotes of all time :laugh:
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on June 25, 2021, 10:39:29 PM
Quote from: livingabortion on June 16, 2021, 06:31:30 PM
I'm watching Classic Action Park. JESUS CHRIST Eugene Mulvihill was an absolute reprehensible piece of shit. Loads of injuries and even death and Mulvihill tried to make out that a young guy was working there when he got killed when he never worked at the park, and on top of that tried to make out it was the rock he hit his head off was what killed him not any problem with the ride itself. The list of horrendous occurrences goes on and on. The people working at the park were pissed or stoned or both and it basically children in charge of children.
That's available to watch over here?
Action Park was the fucking greatest amusement park ever. Went a few times in the 80s and early 90s. There was always the possibility you could get hurt (and judging by the photos of concrete burn victims they had at the top of the Alpine Slide ride - hurt badly) , probably added to the whole thing.
Good times.
Yeah I found it, online ;) I don't know if I could say here though.
Quote from: Necr0rceN on June 23, 2021, 09:09:24 PM
Not sure if this is mentioned already but there is some good docs on a particular west cork murder. Netflix has a good one coming soon and the Jim Sheridan one so far is good. Some details coming as news to me.
I watched the Sky one over the weekend, it was fairly interesting. Relatively objective, but it left me with the same impression about the accused that I'd had going in. Jim Sheridan's still a bit of a gobshite though.
I can't imagine the Netflix one being any better.
I started the Moby one (Moby Doc) last night. A load of pretentious, smug toss to be honest. I've read his (first) autobiography, and it was a decent enough read - though the forced self-awareness suggests a complete lack of genuine self-awareness - and so far (55 mins. in) it's skimming over that ground, but so stylised and haughty as to be nearly unwatchable. I'll finish it out of curiosity, but it's not one I'd recommend.
Edit: Just finished it, it gets worse as it progresses. He's so self congratulatory that it's nauseating.
Can't be arsed checking to see whether it's been mentioned previously:
https://youtu.be/GCGMu0fVg5E
Tread - A blow-in snaps under the pressure of smalltown Colorado beaurocracy and Fucks Shit Up. Well worth a watch.
Saw all the episodes of 'how to become a tryrant' on Netflix. Nice easy half hour episodes that are informative and entertaining. Peter dinklage does the narration
Watched another series of mini documentaries called 'explained'. Each episode is about 20 to 25 minutes, interesting and well explained topics without being patronizing. Saw topics on cults, credit cards, the exclamation mark and one from 2019 about Pandemics and when the next one will hit.
That one about cursing with Nicholas Cage was one of the dumbest, most irritating things I've seen outside of the retards my young lad watches on YouTube. Desperate.
This is, for me, the greatest documentary ever made.
Culloden, April 1746
https://youtu.be/mkxW-nB0nNU
Utterly uncompromising. A must for anyone with even the most feeling interest in history.
I had no idea where to put this, but I guess here is the best fit.
Watched this tonight, and can recommend the whole thing (maybe skip Hilary Putnam if you're not into philosophy of the deathly boring school), but a small bit that struck me is a powerful deflecting answer Chomsky gives to a question about what are some good info sources, at 1:38:52. Yer man takes a little too long to formulate his question (which has nothing to do with what they were talking about, so you can skip straight to it #nospoilers), but sure look it...
https://youtu.be/LzAgPG2aCx4?t=5932
Watched death by metal last night, very interesting, chuck was a complex character
Just got around to watching the Netflix Fyre documentary, a bit late to the show I know. Wondering were there people able to watch it without feeling like the entire thing is a prophetic metaphor for the impending man versus nature collapse of civilization??
I watched that a while back. It was both hilarious and ridiculous. Hadn't thought of it in those terms tbh but now you mention it..
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 15, 2021, 06:00:00 PM
Just got around to watching the Netflix Fyre documentary, a bit late to the show I know. Wondering were there people able to watch it without feeling like the entire thing is a prophetic metaphor for the impending man versus nature collapse of civilization??
I watched that Fyre doc back when it came out. In some ways it was almost like a social experiment.
What if we put these self-absorbed young people on an island á la "Lord Of The Flies" - will they band together and help each other? No... no... they'll cut up the limited amount of tents and piss on the sleeping bags all around theirs because they don't want people next to them.
That is how selfish we have become.
Watched the Woodstock 99 one last week. Horrible. I certainly don't think that Limp Bizkit being Limp Bizkit, the band they booked, are too blame per se but every retard frat boy that was there seemed to be the Limp Bizkit demographic so on the wider scheme of things they are. That in itself is a societal problem of having so many people with dicks for ears. They made my stomach turn. Them, their music and their mongo fans were a form of torture. Then and now.
In relation to the festival, it was very interesting to look at America through the lens of Woodstock 69 and Woodstock 99. I thought that the comparisons to Coachella were unwarranted as the east coast seems to be more relaxed in general but that's a massive generalisation.
Did anyone here see the two Fyre documentaries? Wondering if the Hulu one has anything of genuine, time-worthy interest to add to what was in the Netflix one.
Where are ye watching the Woodstock '99 one, lads?
https://theofficetv.com/movies/118277211-woodstock-99-peace-love-and-rage
Nothing happening there, but thanks anyway.
Strange. Just go onto the site and type in woodstock 99.
I'm just getting a 'checking your browser before... etc. page that keeps refreshing. No worries.
Watched "Enemies Of The State" over the weekend.
It's worth a watch. I would also advise, if you are going to watch it, not to look at much beyond the teaser trailer. Better to go into it without knowing much about the case.
Quote from: StoutAndAle on August 17, 2021, 08:56:10 AM
Watched "Enemies Of The State" over the weekend.
It's worth a watch. I would also advise, if you are going to watch it, not to look at much beyond the teaser trailer. Better to go into it without knowing much about the case.
Just watched it over what turned into an extended lunch break there. This "go in ignorant" advice was excellent, thank you very much. An absolutely wild pyschological ride that gets my recommendation for sure.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 17, 2021, 04:22:36 PM
Just watched it over what turned into an extended lunch break there. This "go in ignorant" advice was excellent, thank you very much. An absolutely wild pyschological ride that gets my recommendation for sure.
Good stuff. Glad that you enjoyed it.
Watched "Beats, Rhymes & Life: The Travels of A Tribe Called Quest". A Tribe Called Quest are masters. They came up & excelled in-and-around my favourite era of hip-hop. There's little nuggets of gold to be mined here and, no doubt, director/actor Michael Rappaport is a fan and got some good access, but this film needed a steadier hand to guide it. It's not the documentary ATCQ deserve.
Currently screening on MUBI as part of their "Music & Movies" series.
I thought this was a fascinating look back at Bush and his nest of scheming vipers priming the press for the Iraq invasion. The bullshit oozes out of them.
Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney...I'd forgotten just what a pair of greasy, smarmy charlatans they were. Blair, in his few appearances, looking back at it now, what an utter invertebrate. Whatever Bush and pals motivations were, at least they had some.
What's totally amazing is that members of the press put it to Rumsfeld on several occasions that the UN said that the Iraqis were doing as they were asked, he just laughed in their faces 'look, we know they have xyz weapons, they dont have the intelligence we are privy too'. Total pish and bollox, but sure who was going to stop them once the decision was made? Fuckers made an absolute mockery of the institution.
Anyway I'll shush, go and have a look.
https://youtu.be/a_cciUzoLwo
Just watched the Phil Lynnot doc. on RTE1 there.
A very enjoyable watch in fairness, nothing new really for a Lizzy or Lynnot fan in it but well worth a watch nonetheless.
Tid bring a tear to a mans eye the way he died, even after all these years, what a fucking waste.
It was decent but yeah, not much new information. No Downey input either, I wonder what that was about.
The Shay Healy one from the mid '90s is probably the best one out there.
I watched Count Me In, a drumming documentary on Netflix. Man, what a ferocious drummer Chad Smith is. He is a phenomenon.
Might have mentioned it before, but I've almost finished it now and it really is very good - The Challenge: ETA (El Desafío: ETA). If you're interested in terrorism and anti-terrorism, the story of the Basque country in general, tis well worth a watch. Should be on Amazon.
Just watched this. It's very good, a really interesting lens through which to study a very particular and pivotal moment in modern US and general media history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzgfQvB2dvA
That is excellent, despite them both being insufferable snobs. The barbs back and forth between them were glorious. I must watch it again.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on August 26, 2021, 01:42:19 AM
I watched Count Me In, a drumming documentary on Netflix. Man, what a ferocious drummer Chad Smith is. He is a phenomenon.
Just watched that. Thought it was garbage.
It was diverting, I thought. Nothing exceptional but watching Chad attack that kit was impressive.
There's a Count Tornado documentary on YouTube that I'm gonna watch over the weekend. I've not heard any of his music, I've only ever heard about him and seen pictures of him. He looks like quite the entertainer :laugh:
Used to see him on a near weekly basis in the 90s. Mad hoor.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on August 26, 2021, 01:42:19 AM
I watched Count Me In, a drumming documentary on Netflix. Man, what a ferocious drummer Chad Smith is. He is a phenomenon.
Ya class drummer. Great groove and knows hot to hit the drums hard. Found the doc itself just ok.
Watched "Malice at the Palace" on Netflix. About the Indiana pacers vs the Detroit Pistons players and fans brawl. Only an hour long and it's very well done.
Quote from: Ollkiller on September 03, 2021, 12:24:18 PM
[Watched "Malice at the Palace" on Netflix. About the Indiana pacers vs the Detroit Pistons players and fans brawl. Only an hour long and it's very well done.
That doc on the Malice At The Palace brawl is fucking class. And the perfect length.
I think that you'll enjoy this short Bill Burr (with hair, no less) stand-up segment if you liked that doc. And bear in mind - 'ol Freckles is doing this set to an nearly entirely black crowd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8b81UM74Ow
Quote from: open face surgery on September 02, 2021, 09:11:15 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on August 26, 2021, 01:42:19 AM
I watched Count Me In, a drumming documentary on Netflix. Man, what a ferocious drummer Chad Smith is. He is a phenomenon.
Just watched that. Thought it was garbage.
Ya it was just talking heads and no real insight into anything worthwhile. Drums are great. Ok then.
Watch the Sound with Mark Ronson. Mini series about producing. Each episode goes into a different topic like reverb, synths etc. Really well made. All the top players in each genre in it. The sampling episode with the beastie boys, public enemy and others is fantastic.
Quote from: Ollkiller on September 05, 2021, 07:26:03 PM
Watch the Sound with Mark Ronson. Mini series about producing. Each episode goes into a different topic like reverb, synths etc. Really well made. All the top players in each genre in it. The sampling episode with the beastie boys, public enemy and others is fantastic.
where did you watch that lad? Sounds interesting
Quote from: Necro Red on September 06, 2021, 11:15:32 AM
Quote from: Ollkiller on September 05, 2021, 07:26:03 PM
Watch the Sound with Mark Ronson. Mini series about producing. Each episode goes into a different topic like reverb, synths etc. Really well made. All the top players in each genre in it. The sampling episode with the beastie boys, public enemy and others is fantastic.
where did you watch that lad? Sounds interesting
Its on Apple Tv but I watched it on one of those 123movies sites. If u can't find it send me a pm.
Watched Adam Curtis' Bitter Lake over the last couple of days. Tis a good time to watch it, close to the 20 year commemoration of 9/11 and right after the Afghanistan withdrawal.
Watched Turning Point on Netflix. Was fairly average as it regurgitates information that you probably already know if you have been keeping up with the "War on terror".
Not realy a documentary, but this YouTube video is insane
https://youtu.be/hoeIllSxpEU
Speaking of insane, forget BLM and any other groups etc who purport to be stigmatised and marginalized...finally a documentary charting what must be THE civil rights struggle of our time...
https://youtu.be/NBEK4NLcbrY
I could watch documentaries about ICP and juggalos all day.
Watched Four Hours at the Capitol recently, and currently watching Q:Into The Storm. I've never felt so glad to live outside of the US. The father and son that the documentary focuses on are greasy as fuck. Even having them on my TV made me fearful for the neighbourhood children.
6 episodes into The World at War (1973) - excellent so far.
The World at War is amazing, not least because of Laurence Oliviers dulcet tones :)
I was given that bixset for christmas/my birthday years ago, never finished it for some reason. Excellent stuff alright, perfect for binging.
I watched 'Finding Jack Charlton' at the weekend. Very well made show, but it was very hard to see him in the state the dementia had left him in. I've never had anyone close to me suffer from it, but it must be absolutely dreadful.
A lot of the old stock footage was class, him singing and his cheeky remarks. Some lad in fairness.
Paul McGrath as usual comes off so well too.
Great watch, that. Very sad how he ended up. Legend.
Just watched Winter of Fire, Netflix doc from 2015 about the social and political unrest/uprising in Kyiv in 2014. Intense. Definitely gives a better understanding of the kind of resistance Ukrainians are putting up now against foreign invaders.
Anyone watched Oliver Stone's Ukraine on Fire doc from a few years back? I see it shared around a bit and youtube is warning me not to look at it so I probably will take a break from speculating about ancient stone walls and prehistoric catastrophes and try it out one of these days but if anyone has seen it and can save me the bother let me know.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 10, 2022, 11:35:41 PM
Just watched Winter of Fire, Netflix doc from 2015 about the social and political unrest/uprising in Kyiv in 2014. Intense. Definitely gives a better understanding of the kind of resistance Ukrainians are putting up now against foreign invaders.
Intense is the perfect description. Couldn't keep my eyes off it. Those Ukrainians are tough as hell.
Looking at whats going on in the Ukraine its worth watching a few videos from Frontline PBS.
https://www.youtube.com/c/frontline
The recent interviews are good but looking back at their documentaries a few years ago they were spot on. Their ISIS documentaries are interesting as well.
Does that shit I watched about skinwalker ranch last night count as a documentary? Anecdote after anecdote without a shred of anything. Yeah, I should've known.
Just watched Roadrunner, the one about Anthony Bourdain there. Not someone I was particularly familiar with TBH (though Kitchen Confidential is on my to-read list) so it was only OK for me. Certainly seemed a haunted man, particularly in his later years.
Worth a watch anyway.
Watched that last year and enjoyed it for want of a better term. Love Parts Unknown but that documentary, and all the shit with Asia Argento brought a serious bleakness to it.
Finished The Anarchists today. Worth a watch. Maybe a bit long at 6 episodes, but a pretty crazy story nonetheless and a good insight into the mindset of (a lot of) these crypto, etc., bros.
Sir Alec Ferguson one from last year. Incredible what he achieved with Aberdeen, maybe more impressive than his Man U stuff. Very well made, and would be enjoyable for any soccer fan.
Anyone check Adam Curtis's new one, TraumaZone? Collapse of the Soviet Union through 90s Russia, all BBC archive footage without his usual narration, just subtitles. I think it's fantastic, really fucked up.
No, hadn't heard about it. Nice one, will watch that over lunch today.
Up on the iPlayer, also a few people have all the episodes up on YouTube. You'll be doing well to get through all 7 hours over lunch alright though :abbath:
If I chew every mouthful a hundred times? :laugh:
Right, no, won't get through all that today so, but I've a DL of the complete season already on the way here.
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on November 04, 2022, 07:58:08 AMI think it's fantastic, really fucked up.
Да, me too. Only ended up getting through the first ep over lunch, but yeah, excellent viewing for anyone interested in Russia. Or humans.
watched Escape from Kabul airport recently on iplayer
it's a tough watch with a few scenes that will stick in the mind :-[
Excellent documentary about Escher:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNjUR1Nn710
Still slowly working my way through those seven episodes of Adam Curtis' TraumaZone. On to episode six next. A compellingly surreal slog.
Watched the whole Ancient Apocalypse documentary series from Graham Hancock that's on Netflix. Entertaining. Just annoying that he says "proof of" and "proves" all the time. He'd be taken much more seriously if he replaced them with "evidence for" and "suggests". But then, genuine science hasn't really done a good job of getting people thinking in these kind of hypothetical rather than dogmatic terms either, so I can't really hold that against him too much. Anyway, very entertaining, and loads of interesting places in it.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 04, 2022, 03:19:05 PMWatched the whole Ancient Apocalypse documentary series from Graham Hancock that's on Netflix. Entertaining. Just annoying that he says "proof of" and "proves" all the time. He'd be taken much more seriously if he replaced them with "evidence for" and "suggests". But then, genuine science hasn't really done a good job of getting people thinking in these kind of hypothetical rather than dogmatic terms either, so I can't really hold that against him too much. Anyway, very entertaining, and loads of interesting places in it.
Yeah it's definitely more food for thought than proof of anything. Love that unknown ancient history stuff though and would watch it all day long without necessarily buying anything he's saying but just for the wonder
Yup, same.
Pretty much every theory he's put forward has been debunked for decades, but people are lapping it up nonetheless. Baffling.
It's entertaining and no one else is proposing anything similar for a broad public. There was David Graeber's last book; people would have lapped that up as a TV series too, still would.
Just saw Meet Me in the Bathroom and enjoyed it a lot. Some cool footage from the era, and some really eerie footage of 9/11. Good nostalgic timewarp too if you came of age in the early 2000s.
Much narrower focus than the book though, really only follows The Strokes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, LCD Soundsystem, and Interpol, with brief touches on Moldy Peaches and Rapture.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 04, 2022, 03:19:05 PMWatched the whole Ancient Apocalypse documentary series from Graham Hancock that's on Netflix. Entertaining. Just annoying that he says "proof of" and "proves" all the time. He'd be taken much more seriously if he replaced them with "evidence for" and "suggests". But then, genuine science hasn't really done a good job of getting people thinking in these kind of hypothetical rather than dogmatic terms either, so I can't really hold that against him too much. Anyway, very entertaining, and loads of interesting places in it.
Must give that a look. Always enjoyed listening to him on with Rogan. Obviously his observations are to be taken with a massive dose of salt but if nothing else it's good for at least letting the imagination run wild.
Watching Candace Owens/Daily Wire one about George Floyd and BLM.
No bombshells and Owens turns down the annoyingness. It's another side of the story, but it's hard to take her seriously considering all the stupid and ignorant remarks she has made since her road to Damascus conversion to conservatism in 2017 (even though I broadly agree with her on most issues).
The main question raised is whether Chauvin was fed to the lions to appease the mob, or if he caused Floyd's death. Obviously the implication here is the former. Jacob Frey, Biden, that Maxine Waters trying to influence the outcome and the medical evidence backs it up, but sher lookit another doc will have compelling arguments to the contrary.
Matt Walsh's one was more entertaining, he's genuinely intelligent and amusing. This one? The only thing funny about her is that her mere existence as a black conservative and opponent of BLM drives her political opponents to distraction.
I found this fairly excellent YouTube channel while looking up some stuff about the US' entry into WWI. They've been doing week-by-week breakdowns of the war and subsequent events as each week has hit its centenary over the last few years. In the mix, the Irish struggle is also covered, with a total of about 3 hours of stuff in 20-30 minute videos. Seems to be a US-based channel, so if you have an initial reservation over narrator accents (mea culpa), stick with it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEb_CfgX2Bw
Threw on the first few minutes of that to pick it up later sound
Quote from: Mooncat on December 04, 2022, 09:41:02 PMJust saw Meet Me in the Bathroom and enjoyed it a lot. Some cool footage from the era, and some really eerie footage of 9/11. Good nostalgic timewarp too if you came of age in the early 2000s.
Much narrower focus than the book though, really only follows The Strokes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, LCD Soundsystem, and Interpol, with brief touches on Moldy Peaches and Rapture.
Reading that book by Lizzy Goodman that the minute - only noticed the other day that there's a doc.
Seems nobody at all has love for Ryan Adams - except Ryan Adams (and maybe Jesse Malin).
Quote from: Born of Fire on December 05, 2022, 06:42:15 PMQuote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 04, 2022, 03:19:05 PMWatched the whole Ancient Apocalypse documentary series from Graham Hancock that's on Netflix. Entertaining. Just annoying that he says "proof of" and "proves" all the time. He'd be taken much more seriously if he replaced them with "evidence for" and "suggests". But then, genuine science hasn't really done a good job of getting people thinking in these kind of hypothetical rather than dogmatic terms either, so I can't really hold that against him too much. Anyway, very entertaining, and loads of interesting places in it.
Must give that a look. Always enjoyed listening to him on with Rogan. Obviously his observations are to be taken with a massive dose of salt but if nothing else it's good for at least letting the imagination run wild.
I have his books somewhere, must dig them out. He wrote about this kind of stuff years ago but I don't remember people getting quite so annoyed about it.
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on November 04, 2022, 07:58:08 AMAnyone check Adam Curtis's new one, TraumaZone? Collapse of the Soviet Union through 90s Russia, all BBC archive footage without his usual narration, just subtitles. I think it's fantastic, really fucked up.
Watching this on BBC Four at the moment, 5 episodes in. Compelling stuff, complete madness how that country was (is) run.
Quote from: leatherface on January 16, 2023, 09:12:13 PMQuote from: Born of Fire on December 05, 2022, 06:42:15 PMQuote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 04, 2022, 03:19:05 PMWatched the whole Ancient Apocalypse documentary series from Graham Hancock that's on Netflix. Entertaining. Just annoying that he says "proof of" and "proves" all the time. He'd be taken much more seriously if he replaced them with "evidence for" and "suggests". But then, genuine science hasn't really done a good job of getting people thinking in these kind of hypothetical rather than dogmatic terms either, so I can't really hold that against him too much. Anyway, very entertaining, and loads of interesting places in it.
Must give that a look. Always enjoyed listening to him on with Rogan. Obviously his observations are to be taken with a massive dose of salt but if nothing else it's good for at least letting the imagination run wild.
I have his books somewhere, must dig them out. He wrote about this kind of stuff years ago but I don't remember people getting quite so annoyed about it.
I don't think anyone was annoyed at all but then I think they just didn't have the platform to tell me about it and they were every bit as petty and shit all along and many people were as annoyed as anything.
Ah well fuck em.
Just watched first ep of Attenborough's latest one, Wild Isles, all about wildlife in Britain and Ireland. Presumably he's not up for going too much further afield at this stage, and this may well be the very last one he makes, bless 'im. Excellent anyway, looking forward to catching the other eps.
He's sort of annoying me with the climate change angle all the time but I still like the cunt for all the years of pure wonderment he's given me. Must give this a watch I hadn't even heard of it or at least don't remember hearing of it and now I'm thinking I did hear of it
Edit: fuck I sound like Rumsfeld
I agree that the intense guilt trip is hard work.
There wasn't so much about climate change per se in this one, compared to the Netflix series for example. But yeah, he will say stuff along the lines of "This amazing wildlife you're in wonderment over right now has had its habitat reduced by 80% in the last 60 years," or whatever. In fairness, there are few better living witnesses to the extent of human encroachment into animal habitats over the last century.
Human impact on habitats and climate change are two entirely different things to my mind.
First is real, second is a money scam
'Still', documentary coming soon about Michael J. Fox, his full life, career, and post-career with Parkinson's. Looks like it'll be great.
Also just started this one yesterday, The Shock of the New, an 80s doc series about the impact of technological advancement, etc., on art throughout the 20th century:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3ne7Udaetg&list=PLFtSvldL7Mh4ismj4BgH33pBR9hbtBkxz&index=1
Has now got me thinking aloud about the impact of the two world wars on the birth of heavy metal, an emblem of machinery and death "twisted into form", if you will.
Kinda bouncing off Carl Sagan being mentioned in the other thread. I've talked about this YT channel before, but for me the host is the closest we have to an heir to Sagan. Check this one out, for example; a real trip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8p1yqnuk8Y
Threw on the first 7 minutes of that there. Sounds a bit like the voice in my head that sometimes leaks out when speaking to random members of the public and all they wanted was for me to help them with the most basic of things.
I'll be back to this lad, I haven't encountered him before. I've actually been neglecting the old PBS stuff of late this might get me back in
Watched Still tonight, new documentary about Michael J.Fox. Loved it: really entertaining, an enormous nostalgia trip, the man himself and how he has faced Parkinson's. And there's loads more details that really flesh this out into a perfect homage to the full spectrum of his life.
It's good alright.
Jesus Christ that Cleopatra...what an absolute load of shite. Knowingly passing off pure fiction and pish and bollocks as a DOCUMENTARY. I enjoyed Roman docudrama they did but what is the point of this bullshit?
Ha ha, priceless
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna83771
I suppose they've kinda gotten a little side-tracked in the interim, but did Russia ever make "their version" of Chernobyl when they were all up in arms over it? I'd be curious to watch it.
Great PBS documentary on the Reconstruction Era of US history (post-civil war, 1865 - 1877) here for any history enthusiasts:
https://youtu.be/btV1ovf560g
A long one, I watched it in a few 30-40 minute sittings, but a really fascinating period for political experiment and resistance. Assassinate the "right" person (Lincoln) and the shockwaves really can last into the centuries.
Also went through Shiny Happy People, new documentary on Prime about one of the fundamentalist christian homeschooling movements in the US, one family of which were the stars of a reality TV show via Discovery. Pretty successfully shines a light on the stranglehold any kind of fundamentalism can have on agency and intelligence, both individual and collective, even in the face of rampant physical and sexual abuse.
Also, since the notion came up in one of the other threads, if anyone is looking for objective approach video essays on political and social questions, then this guy's channel is pretty much the closest to that which I've come across so far:
https://www.youtube.com/@realryanchapman/videos
Videos on loads of interesting topics, all (based on the four or five I've watched) properly and explicitly sourced from the relevant horses' mouths.
Objectivity!?
How the fuck am I supposed to be outraged at that?
Just watched the documentary on Noel Browne that RTE aired last night:
https://www.rte.ie/culture/2023/0731/1397415-the-seven-ages-of-noel-browne-inside-the-new-documentary/
Up on the player for all ye back home, and I found a torrent of it for myself fairly handy today. Not an amazing film in itself, but he's someone all Irish people should know about. The timing of its airing is interesting too, in the wake of O'Connor's passing and everyone already revisiting her battles with the church and combats for women's rights, etc.
Just watching it now, by pure coincidence. Someone I was vaguely aware of, but the specifics I've forgotten. I suppose I should pay attention now.
Edit: Well worth a watch, that. Yet another illustration of how far back we were held as a nation by the catholic church.
I didn't realise how high the mortality rate for TB was in the '40s (90%). My father had it as a child around then, he was bedridden for a long time and was lucky to survive, it seems - this was a family trait: his father had a ticket for the Titanic as a young man, but missed the sailing from Cobh.
Watched the documentary about Oppenheimer, To End All War, last night. Good but not great, does accompany the movie well though, and Christopher Nolan is actually one of the talking heads in it. I bought Ray Monk's biography of Oppenheimer (so that's not the biography the film is based on) years ago but only dipped into the bits that directly interested me, mainly about the McCarthy era stuff. Would love to find time to read the full thing though, before watching the movie a second time.
I (re)watched the BBC Storyville documentary on him after seeing the film, the one with David Strathairn (who might have the most anmoying voice I've heard) playing him in the security hearing reenactments. Focussed mainly on his being cast out after crossing Strauss, it's worth a look. Watching To End All Wars now, it's alright.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5FKzyvzNco
Interesting little doc about an almost forgotten chapter of modern Irish history, the Tailteann Games, which most of us may have heard about, but I didn't know much myself about the details.
Interesting watch, I'd only heard about the Games recently. They predate the Olympics, apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73hip3pz0Xs
This is one of the craziest stories I have ever heard. Like a Gogol story come to life (a reference that makes sense if you watch it).
Watched Moonage Daydream last night. Interesting watch. I think enjoyment of it will be closely tied to how big a Bowie fan you are. Not a "normal" documentary at all, reckon it'd be a struggle for someone not into him already. Unless they're really into arty documentaries in general.
Watched that recent Ch4 doc about Andrew Tate last night. It's like the dark psycho reflection of the one they did on Brand recently.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 10, 2024, 09:04:23 AMWatched that recent Ch4 doc about Andrew Tate last night. It's like the dark psycho reflection of the one they did on Brand recently.
Thought he'd had his flash in the pan tbh. Never even see the cunt on twitter these days
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 10, 2024, 09:04:23 AMWatched that recent Ch4 doc about Andrew Tate last night. It's like the dark psycho reflection of the one they did on Brand recently.
What was the purpose of the doc? Bio? Or more of a critical look at him?
Bit of both. CH4 had been making a documentary on him up to the time he got arrested. All the footage from that initially planned doc, plus plenty of other earlier stuff, has been woven through with the stories of those accusing him of various levels of physical and sexual abuse in the UK and Romania. His and their legal teams all interviewed. Interviews with three of his, let's say "students" also feature throughout, plus a bit of the Tate-mania stuff, accounts from teachers of pre- and early-teen boys, etc.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 10, 2024, 11:10:05 PMBit of both. CH4 had been making a documentary on him up to the time he got arrested. All the footage from that initially planned doc, plus plenty of other earlier stuff, has been woven through with the stories of those accusing him of various levels of physical and sexual abuse in the UK and Romania. His and their legal teams all interviewed. Interviews with three of his, let's say "students" also feature throughout, plus a bit of the Tate-mania stuff, accounts from teachers of pre- and early-teen boys, etc.
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Quote from: Carnage on January 11, 2024, 12:17:07 AMShoo the cat off the keyboard, lad.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkbUQKyie_w
Watched this first ep just now, great doc. I know in episode 3 he goes to Ireland and talks, via translator, with one of if not the last epic bards in the Irish tradition, to get an idea for the mnemotechniques used for learning and recalling vast lengths of text, as would have been done with the Iliad for the first few hundred years of its existence.
The Act of Killing
This is a fairly off the wall and messed up documentary about members of Indonesian gangster death squads unofficially charged with executing communist suspects en masse in the 60s.
New Al Jazeera Investigative Unit report on the events of October 7th:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0atzea-mPY
I've seen a load of their iUnit documentaries over the years and found them very interesting. But yeah, it is Al Jazeera, so anywhere you feel some salt needs adding, by all means reach for the shaker.
Then also saw that they've just broadcast, in two parts, a documentary which I've been trying to find to stream or DL for months now: Praying for Armageddon, about Christian fundamentalists in the US and globally, many of whom are Christian Zionists literally praying for the end times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhT7oyDlBIk
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 20, 2024, 05:17:15 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhT7oyDlBIk
This is compelling and or harrowing. That Christian fundamentalism (believers in literal meaning of the bible mythological prophecies) has such a grip on geopolitics in the Middle East is one of the most obvious symptoms of just how rife "even" the West is with irrational, quasi-medieval ideology. Folk need to open their eyes a little more to the level of influence involved. I've also recently seen the Christian dimension of Irish nationalism expanding into places I hadn't seen it before. Don't know how it doesn't get more alarm bells ringing tbh.
Just watched the second part. One of the most frightening things I've ever seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iQhbcOgfqw
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 04, 2022, 03:19:05 PMWatched the whole Ancient Apocalypse documentary series from Graham Hancock that's on Netflix. Entertaining. Just annoying that he says "proof of" and "proves" all the time. He'd be taken much more seriously if he replaced them with "evidence for" and "suggests". But then, genuine science hasn't really done a good job of getting people thinking in these kind of hypothetical rather than dogmatic terms either, so I can't really hold that against him too much. Anyway, very entertaining, and loads of interesting places in it.
Joe Rogan just hosted a tête-à-tête between Hancock and archeologist Flint Dibble (who's already won in the "best name" category anyway). It's quite possible I will never get around to watching all four and a half hours of this, but so far so interesting half an hour in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DL1_EMIw6w
Had that on in the background today at work. I enjoy Hancocks ideas in a fun "what if" kind of alternate history scenario but he really had nothing in that debate.
I find his theories interesting to think about but his constant poor me thing outs him as a grade-A bullshitter
Could that Dibble chap be any more of a stereotype? Anyway, Hancock doesn't really have anything other than "we don't know" but he presents it as if he has something, which is unfortunate i think as it will drive a lot of people away.
I think the general theory that there's a lot more history than we know about is fairly sound but what can we do only dig and speculate until we know more? I don't like how a lot of the alternate history crowd are always jumping to mad conclusions instead of simply pointing out that nobody really knows. Anyway, saw a few clips of that debate and won't be watching four hours of it.
Made it through about an hour and a half, Hancock started getting more and more personal, and repeating the same question Dibble had answered three or four times already. Didn't feel like there was going to be any big revelations after that point
He's a stoner coming up with wild ideas.
That sounds about right :laugh:
If he just focused on the things we don't know he'd be more interesting instead of trying to tie it all together into one big story. There's enough evidence out there to suggest there's far more to history than we have generally accepted or there was more global trading of ideas and things than we give credit for and there's always new old things being found but wild hypotheses are just that at the end of the day.
Watched Supersize Me after Morgan Spurlock died the other day. Very entertaining watch! Took me right back to the early to mid-2000s and that kind of expose Michael Moore-esque documentary style. The sequel is pretty good too.
One thing from the first one, there's a whole scene where three different docs are telling him how healthy he is and how good his genetic history is. That's one part that didn't age well...
Now watch Super High Me, undoubtedly the superior documentary :laugh:
But also, seriously.
There's a documentary about Rory Gallagher on RTE, Monday at half six.
The ad for it looks promising. I'm sure it'll be nothing new but hopefully it'll be heavy on the live footage and light on the shit talk.
The Irish Tour '74 doc is the one to see, but I have this set to record anyway.
Yeah, its feckin great. If I had a time machine and could only use it once I'd travel back to 74 and go to that gig in Belfast.
Live at Montreux is mighty too.
The Rockpalast collection is mighty too.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 30, 2024, 01:23:22 AMNow watch Super High Me, undoubtedly the superior documentary :laugh:
But also, seriously.
I'll have to hunt it down. Watched another of Spurlock's there, "The Greatest Movie Ever Sold", about product placement and financing in movies. Interesting watch! If the usual lighthearted Spurlock bullshit as opposed to an in-depth expose.
One doc I would recommend to everyone on this forum is Not Quite Hollywood, about the history of Ozploitation cinema. All the b grade schlock that came out of Australia in the 70s and 80s. Action, porn, horror etc etc. All low budget, all great. It's a super entertaining doc, and will give a ton of recommendations if you're into that sort of thing! Amazing trashy clips and footage from the films etc.
It's on American Prime video for those of you who VPN.
Quote from: Mooncat on June 03, 2024, 09:38:33 PMQuote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 30, 2024, 01:23:22 AMNow watch Super High Me, undoubtedly the superior documentary :laugh:
But also, seriously.
I'll have to hunt it down. Watched another of Spurlock's there, "The Greatest Movie Ever Sold", about product placement and financing in movies. Interesting watch! If the usual lighthearted Spurlock bullshit as opposed to an in-depth expose.
One doc I would recommend to everyone on this forum is Not Quite Hollywood, about the history of Ozploitation cinema. All the b grade schlock that came out of Australia in the 70s and 80s. Action, porn, horror etc etc. All low budget, all great. It's a super entertaining doc, and will give a ton of recommendations if you're into that sort of thing! Amazing trashy clips and footage from the films etc.
It's on American Prime video for those of you who VPN.
Not quite Hollywood is great, same team as the Cannon films doc I think. . Was kinda shocked at how many of those movies I'd seen.
Aussie stuntmen are legends.
Was wondering what to watch so looked up a bit of Irish mythology on youtube and the first one I threw on was by a crowd called "Cromwell Productions". Like fucking seriously? LOL
:laugh:
Watched the Woodstock 99 and Fyre Festivals docs back-to-back last night. I'd seen them both before, but watching them both in one night was an interesting comparison of generations. The anger and apathy of Gen X vs the narcissism and entitlement of Millennials. Michael Lang and Billy MacFarland both complete conmen.
Hitler: A Career
I really enjoyed this one. It's from 1977 and is a much more straight to the point doc without any of the stylizing or reconstructions of more modern documentaries. Also refreshing to hear a documentary just be narrated, rather than the talking head style of modern docs. Also nice to just have it as a straight up 2.5hr feature, rather than a mini-series with a cliffhanger at the end of every episode.
The whole thing is straight up archival footage too, which I like as you can get more immersed in the experience rather than continually being sucked out for talking heads, reconstructions etc.
Probably doesn't have any info you don't already know if you're into these kind of docs as all, but it was a good one!
There's a three-part series about the bould Marilyn Manson on Channel 4 at 10 tonight.
Have it set to record. No doubt it'll be sensationalist shite and could be handled in a single episode but sure advertising space has to be sold.
Quote from: Carnage on January 14, 2025, 12:56:24 PMHave it set to record. No doubt it'll be sensationalist shite and could be handled in a single episode but sure advertising space has to be sold.
It could be worse. The R Kelly documentary was stretched out to 3 seasons.
The Wrecking Crew. Doc about the group of sessions musicians of the 40s, 50s, 60s. Crazy the mass of tunes they played on.
Similar buzz to Standing In The Shadows of Motown which is also great
Quote from: open face surgery on January 14, 2025, 03:02:04 PMThe Wrecking Crew. Doc about the group of sessions musicians of the 40s, 50s, 60s. Crazy the mass of tunes they played on.
Similar buzz to Standing In The Shadows of Motown which is also great
Aye, watched the wrecking crew a while back. Good ould watch. The amount of songs they played on was insane.
Watched the OJ documentary on Netflix.
He definitely got away with murder now.
Quote from: Maggot Colony on January 14, 2025, 12:36:43 PMThere's a three-part series about the bould Marilyn Manson on Channel 4 at 10 tonight.
Watched this yesterday, thought it wasn't bad. The first episode was the best with following his early career. It then all turning into a doc about his legal battles felt a bit superfluous though after there already being the Evan Rachel Wood one a couple of years back.
An American Bombing
About the Oklahoma bombing in the 90s. Pretty interesting stuff. It's main focus is on what lead to the bombing, EG the rise of the far right in the 80s, plus events like Ruby Ridge and Waco, and how McVeigh became radicalized etc. Interesting and slightly terrifying watch. Terrifying because of the amount of overlap to stuff that is happening today.
Speaking of which, I was rewatching Hitler: Circle of Evil on Netflix, and the first few episodes focusing on his political rise in the 1930s are downright scary when compared to today. I know I'm far from the first person to make the Trump/Hitler comparison, but the whole way through the doc there was just so much that lined up with how things are happening now. I guess the main difference is that, despite being crazy, Hitler was a career professional politician and a radicalized zealot. I don't think Trump is either of those things. More like a sociopath using his position for his own benefit no matter the cost to others.
An oldie but it still feels like a cinematic thriller.
Watched an excellent documentary last night, 'Nae Pasaran', found a torrent of it handy enough if it's not streaming anywhere:
QuoteIn a small Scottish town in 1974, factory workers refuse to carry out repairs on warplane engines in an act of solidarity against the violent military coup in Chile. 40 years after their defiant stand in protest against Pinochet's Air Force, Scottish pensioners discover the dramatic consequences of their solidarity.
Interestingly, linking to the vid just above it, a Chilean air force general from the time of Pinochet happens to mention in this one that, once other countries had begun ramping up their actions against the regime, it was South Africa and Israel who remained steadfast in their support and supplying of arms.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on February 12, 2025, 09:52:45 AMWatched an excellent documentary last night, 'Nae Pasaran', found a torrent of it handy enough if it's not streaming anywhere:
QuoteIn a small Scottish town in 1974, factory workers refuse to carry out repairs on warplane engines in an act of solidarity against the violent military coup in Chile. 40 years after their defiant stand in protest against Pinochet's Air Force, Scottish pensioners discover the dramatic consequences of their solidarity.
Remember hearing about that one, must lash it on to the watchlist. Great bunch of lads!
Watching Hip Hop Undercover on Disney at the moment. Pretty decent series about the legit gangsters/shot callers behind the scenes, who'd get the shout outs on the records, on the east & west coast scenes.
This Michael Sheen debt-buying experiment one airing tomorrow will be interesting to watch:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg1ewdgk7no
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 05, 2025, 12:53:08 PMThis Michael Sheen debt-buying experiment one airing tomorrow will be interesting to watch:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg1ewdgk7no
I heard about that. Sheen's a good lad. Hopefully the dodgy box will provide as the beeb seem to have been killing stuff off a lot lately
Tis Channel 4 airing it, don't know if that helps.
Mad how easily those debts can be written off by the lenders and what they're sold for to the collection companies. Must try get a look at this one.
It's also amazing how many people don't know that they don't have a contract with the debt collectors and all they have to do is never engage with them or accept that they owe them anything.
I had it for months with one crowd until they just gave up trying to get me to confirm my name over the phone. Got very entertaining before they simply gave up and had to take the hit for themselves.
Fuck em
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 05, 2025, 05:19:18 PMTis Channel 4 airing it, don't know if that helps.
All 4 it is! Nice wan!
Some legend put the Damned doc (that's seemed to be locked on Sky for ages)on YouTube. It's deadly.
Watched No Other Land last night. What can be said at this point, other than to lament the fact that none of the right people will watch it.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 17, 2025, 07:49:01 AMWatched No Other Land last night. What can be said at this point, other than to lament the fact that none of the right people will watch it.
Heard of that. Heard it was pretty depressing. Who would be the right people though?
Really powerful Israeli-made documentary here about a particular episode of the Nakba in 1948 and the multiform efforts to keep it and the rest of the reality of the Nakba covered up.
https://archive.org/details/tantura-2022_202311
Solid PBS documentary on funk. Covers a lot of ground.
https://www.pbs.org/video/make-it-funky-xoqjb8/
Re-watching David Attenborough's Wild Isles series about Britain & Ireland with the wee lad. Absolutely perfect companion to Redwall, which we're reading at the moment, but 'tis also an ever-timely reminder that ecological cooperation is absolutely the only long-term winning game going on this planet in terms of survival and flourishing.
What's Redwall?
Books I read as a tween:
QuoteThe series chronicles the adventures of the anthropomorphic animals inhabiting Redwall Abbey and the surrounding countryside of Mossflower Wood, including mice, moles, hares, badgers, and other woodland species. Frequently the peace-loving creatures of Mossflower are called upon to become warriors to defend themselves from marauding bands of "vermin" such as rats, weasels, and foxes.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 09, 2025, 11:52:05 AMBooks I read as a tween:
QuoteThe series chronicles the adventures of the anthropomorphic animals inhabiting Redwall Abbey and the surrounding countryside of Mossflower Wood, including mice, moles, hares, badgers, and other woodland species. Frequently the peace-loving creatures of Mossflower are called upon to become warriors to defend themselves from marauding bands of "vermin" such as rats, weasels, and foxes.
Sounds like fun!
Watched Trainwreck: Astroworld, and Twister: Caught in the Storm.
Astroworld was nowhere near as good as the Trainwreck: Woodstock one, and despite being much shorter still feels way more padded. Travis Scott comes across as a douche, though probably not as much to blame as was originally made out.
Twister starts off a bit slow but once it gets to the actual event some of the footage and descriptions are genuinely harrowing. Was a good Saturday morning hangover watch.
ALso, mentioned in the Tube thread by mistake, but the Oceangate doc was really good. Genuinely lots of interesting stuff to get your teeth into, and a little bit less "American Netflix" style of doc than they usually go for. The tale of one rich guy's absolutely unchecked hubris and his comeuppance. Similar to the Titanic itself. It's some hook!
About halfway through the new Adam Curtis series Shifty. If you know and dig his formula, you'll dig this too. Certainly the parallels to today, despite not being pointed out at all (like with TraumaZone, there's no narration), couldn't be any clearer. Very enjoyable watching experience anyway, even just the nostalgia factor alone. Also, plenty of stuff about the North so far too.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 17, 2025, 01:32:03 PMAbout halfway through the new Adam Curtis series Shifty. If you know and dig his formula, you'll dig this too. Certainly the parallels to today, despite not being pointed out at all (like with TraumaZone, there's no narration), couldn't be any clearer. Very enjoyable watching experience anyway, even just the nostalgia factor alone. Also, plenty of stuff about the North so far too.
Pretty decent watch, I enjoy his format. The wee dude shredding is cool, the air guitar to The Jesus and Mary Chain though 🤨 😁
Quote from: Mooncat on June 16, 2025, 09:43:44 PMWatched Trainwreck: Astroworld, and Twister: Caught in the Storm.
Astroworld was nowhere near as good as the Trainwreck: Woodstock one, and despite being much shorter still feels way more padded. Travis Scott comes across as a douche, though probably not as much to blame as was originally made out.
Twister starts off a bit slow but once it gets to the actual event some of the footage and descriptions are genuinely harrowing. Was a good Saturday morning hangover watch.
ALso, mentioned in the Tube thread by mistake, but the Oceangate doc was really good. Genuinely lots of interesting stuff to get your teeth into, and a little bit less "American Netflix" style of doc than they usually go for. The tale of one rich guy's absolutely unchecked hubris and his comeuppance. Similar to the Titanic itself. It's some hook!
Yeah, the Astroworld doc wasn't great. Scott didn't come across well, and I suppose it's his name on the event, but there was plenty of others working behind the scene who didn't do their job and were culpable to a greater degree.
Loved the Oceangate doc and it's a classic case of how one person's vision was pursued at all costs. Fascinating stuff. Very little on the actual disaster itself, more on the build up. I have no scientific or engineering background so my opinion counts for nothing here, but it's mad in hindsight how a carbon fibre hull could have been considered suitable for those depths...well, I suppose it wasn't and that was flagged, extensively, but mad the way it fell on deaf ears. Pursue at all costs as I said.
Quote from: OpenSores on June 20, 2025, 08:20:36 PMQuote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 17, 2025, 01:32:03 PMAbout halfway through the new Adam Curtis series Shifty. If you know and dig his formula, you'll dig this too. Certainly the parallels to today, despite not being pointed out at all (like with TraumaZone, there's no narration), couldn't be any clearer. Very enjoyable watching experience anyway, even just the nostalgia factor alone. Also, plenty of stuff about the North so far too.
Pretty decent watch, I enjoy his format. The wee dude shredding is cool, the air guitar to The Jesus and Mary Chain though 🤨 😁
Haha, yeah, there was some absolutely classic archive footage in there alright.
Watched the Titan submarine one on Netflix yesterday. Yer man was a right prick by all accounts, hubris and arrogance was what killed him and his passengers.
Also watch the three-parter on Fred & Rose West. No new information really but it was fascinating hearing him talk about it all, and going from protecting and then turning on her after she snubbed him.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 17, 2025, 01:32:03 PMAbout halfway through the new Adam Curtis series Shifty. If you know and dig his formula, you'll dig this too. Certainly the parallels to today, despite not being pointed out at all (like with TraumaZone, there's no narration), couldn't be any clearer. Very enjoyable watching experience anyway, even just the nostalgia factor alone. Also, plenty of stuff about the North so far too.
Curtis talking about it here on The Rest Is Entertainment podcast:
I have it lined up, I really enjoyed Traumazone.
Quote from: Carnage on June 23, 2025, 10:02:30 AMAlso watch the three-parter on Fred & Rose West. No new information really but it was fascinating hearing him talk about it all, and going from protecting and then turning on her after she snubbed him.
Ya, enjoyed that too.
Watched both the Titan one and the Fred and Rose West ones as well. Enjoyed both. Titan fella was a psycho.
Fred and Rose West were misunderstood :laugh: The kill count is no doubt a hell of a lot more than documented.
Watched the Myra Hindley and Ian Bailey docuseries, See No Evil, on Netflix as well. Grand watch as well. Didn't realise that the video of Throbbing Gristle - Very Friendly, that I've seen a few times, was footage taken from it.
This won the News Emmy Award for Outstanding Video Journalism this week. Video embedded in article, originally published in April 2024.
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2024/04/29/the-hidden-war-in-gaza-and-the-west-bank/
Been watching Jazz by Ken Burns. Each episode is like a mini film length. Been enjoying it so far, it's very thorough! Up to about Louis Armstrong/Duke Ellington era so far.
Also came across a doc about lightning called Electric Skies from that old channel 4 doc, Equinox. Remember that one? I could still remember the intro almost entirely with the weird face at the end. Episode was class too, I actually remembered it from watching it in the early 90s as a kid.
Crystal Lake Memories
6hr doc on the history of Friday 13th. Goes through it all one film at a time with interviews with the people involved in each one. It's a really entertaining watch and you could easily breeze through the whole 6 hours in an afternoon. I absolutely love every 80s one. Even the Manhattan one!
Would that be from the same team who made the docs on Elm St. and Hellraiser (I think the same crew made both, not 100% sure)? Both of those were great.
Quote from: Carnage on September 23, 2025, 06:10:28 PMWould that be from the same team who made the docs on Elm St. and Hellraiser (I think the same crew made both, not 100% sure)? Both of those were great.
Didn't even know they existed so now I know what I'll be watching over the next few days. Thanks!
Never Sleep Again is the Elm Street one, Leviathan is the Hellraiser one - I think, it's been a few years since I watched either. Both well worth a watch and each is a good length, too.
Same team also made the Doc Of Chucky which is just as good.
Four hour horror documentaries is pretty much it's own genre these days!
Just watched Never Sleep Again over the last two evenings and yeah, it was just as enjoyable as the Friday 13th one. It's a very fun experience to relive the legacy and remember just how much Freddy Krueger infiltrated pop culture. The first film is definitely the best, though the third is probably the most fun and the most 80s. The perfect distillation of what a fun Nightmare film is.
Also, what was up with that clampet who appeared to be interviewed in full Mudvayne style makeup and with some random woman beside her who sat mute the whole time, and beneath her like a sub. I loved how that was a thing that was neither approached nor questioned. It just was what it was, deal with it.
This clampet :laugh: :
Quote from: Mooncat on September 23, 2025, 06:03:36 PMCrystal Lake Memories
6hr doc on the history of Friday 13th. Goes through it all one film at a time with interviews with the people involved in each one. It's a really entertaining watch and you could easily breeze through the whole 6 hours in an afternoon. I absolutely love every 80s one. Even the Manhattan one!
Same, love the 80s ones. Pure cheese I didnt know there was a documentary, I'll definitely check this out. And the the Never Sleep Again one. Nice one
Watched a pleasant one on Disney+ there, Billy & Molly: An Otter Love Story. Essentially a lad going through a tough time adopts an orphaned otter and he and his wife have a mutually beneficial relationship with it for a while. Grand way to spend a Sunday evening.
Saw Beat the lotto on Netflix there about the lads trying to get one over the system by buying up all (or trying to) the 6 number combinations.
Almost has the makings of a movie. They did get the winning ticket but since there was multiple winners they only got a share and the evil lottery boss smirking with glee on the telly.
They did see it as a win and the documentary kinda glosses over the fact that with the 5 number and 4 number prizes they ended up with a 30 percent profit.
Director Ben Wheatley (Kill List/A Field In England etc) has been compiling a playlist of old episodes of the BBC's Arena. 293 episodes so far and he's adding more as he goes.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwvX-sECzP6pc3DXhmA2dlXOpj74aN-sc&si=5xa4m1a4LPIYJtSb
Nice, some great stuff on that show over the years.
Hype! - about the Seattle scene. Has some cool footage and live performances from the era. Especially interesting the scenes featuring some of the lesser known bands from the Seattle scene like Gas Huffer, The Fastbacks, and Hammerbox etc, as well as the usual suspects. I already knew the story about the fake lingo they used to wind up the journalists, but it was cool to see Megan Jasper interviewed about it directly. Harsh realm, man.
Love that one. Fastbacks were great.
I watched that DEVO documentary that's up on Netflix at the moment, enjoyed it, interesting lads
Been looking forward to that Devo one but just keep not getting around to it.
Watched the Tad one recommended in another thread. Really enjoyable, and sad for them that they just never seemed to get that little bit of luck that they needed at various points. Would have been amazing to see that Tad/Nirvana UK tour.
And speaking of which, on the iPlayer is a doc called When Nirvana Came to Britain. It's also excellent and features the same tour from the Nirvana perspective, plus a bit of a retrospective on them in general. Features all their British TV appearances, plus Reading etc. Really good companion piece to the Tad doc.