Are we all fucked?

[Ollkiller]

There's a video on reddit (I'm not linking it) of the immediate aftermath from a russian missile strike on an apartment complex in Kharkiv. Civilian body parts everywhere with unbearable screaming from the still alive injured victims. I clicked on it by mistake. It's the most harrowing thing I think I've ever seen.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

As much as I dislike Trudeau and the measures he introduced over the convoy, for those who were comparing him to Mao and even Hitler, what exactly would that now make Putin on the same hyperbolic scale? Literally Vlad the Impaler??

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-fake-news-military-invasion-independent-media/31735798.html

The new law envisions penalties of up to 10 years in prison for individuals convicted of the offense [of spreading "fake news" about Russia]. The penalty for the distribution of fake news about the Russian Army that leads to "serious consequences" rises to up to 15 years in prison. It also makes it illegal "to make calls against the use of Russian troops to protect the interests of Russia" or "for discrediting such use" with a penalty possible of up to three years in prison. The same provision applies to calls for sanctions against Russia.

Have also heard that calling on people to attend anti-war protests to carry a penalty of up to 5 years in prison, waiting for a source for that.

[mickO)))]

Putin of course is terrible but the thing for me is Putin is shit on and has been all along by the MSM, 99 out of 100 people you meet would have told you Putin is a bad guy for the last 20 years etc. Trudeau isn't. Trudeau is praised the world over as a great leader. Trudeau brought in UN troops to get rid of a peaceful protest then a week later had the audacity to make a speech about how everyone needs to defend democracy in the Ukraine and nobody in a position of power called him out on any of this. I guess the buddies of the WEF all stick together.

In regards to what is going on in the Ukraine at the minute to be honest I haven't really been looking too much into it as I need a break from all of this stuff for a week or two.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

In regards to what is going on in the Ukraine at the minute to be honest I haven't really been looking too much into it as I need a break from all of this stuff for a week or two.

You're doing right there anyway.

"They'll be home before Christmas Easter!"

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Twitter and Facebook blocked by Russia.

It's all out, black and white, you're-lying-no-you're-lying.

[warhead]

As much as I dislike Trudeau and the measures he introduced over the convoy, for those who were comparing him to Mao and even Hitler, what exactly would that now make Putin on the same hyperbolic scale? Literally Vlad the Impaler??

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-fake-news-military-invasion-independent-media/31735798.html

The new law envisions penalties of up to 10 years in prison for individuals convicted of the offense [of spreading "fake news" about Russia]. The penalty for the distribution of fake news about the Russian Army that leads to "serious consequences" rises to up to 15 years in prison. It also makes it illegal "to make calls against the use of Russian troops to protect the interests of Russia" or "for discrediting such use" with a penalty possible of up to three years in prison. The same provision applies to calls for sanctions against Russia.

Have also heard that calling on people to attend anti-war protests to carry a penalty of up to 5 years in prison, waiting for a source for that.

I hope you know Vlad Tepes wasn't attacking anyone, he was defending his country Romania from the Turkish invasion?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The frame of reference here is how particular leaders treat their own people when they step out of line; keep up

[warhead]

The frame of reference here is how particular leaders treat their own people when they step out of line; keep up

I know that Romanian people consider him to be a national here, have to admit I wasn't researching much about the issue myself. And none of us were there, so we only know what we read, and what's written is always biased.
But there's a big chance you might be right about him, Medieval times were brutal, I would easily accept all/most of the leaders back than were ruthless
And yeah, I should pay more attention to the frame of reference, that's what you get when you read something after not sleeping all night 

[The Heretic]

Anyone else thinking about accommodating refugees if it comes to that? It's only myself and my wife here and we have a big spare bedroom with bathroom that is available (once I clear my stuff out if it)

[Don Gately]

Yes we have a spare room and have offered it up to Ukrainian refugees. We are family of 4 so there will be potentially a lot of changes to come.
I saw some FB comments wondering why people didn't offer rooms to Afghanistan/Yemenese refugees. Its a fair point. I really never thought of it before, probably a deep seated bias in my behalf.

[The Heretic]

Yes we have a spare room and have offered it up to Ukrainian refugees. We are family of 4 so there will be potentially a lot of changes to come.
I saw some FB comments wondering why people didn't offer rooms to Afghanistan/Yemenese refugees. Its a fair point. I really never thought of it before, probably a deep seated bias in my behalf.

A very fair point indeed..from our perspective we've had a few personal events over the last 4 months that have given us breathing room to facilitate something like this. But to your point..if someone today said listen...we don't need you for ukraine refugees but we need placements for refugees from other countries we would have to welcome them as well or just be content to be tagged as whatever you tag that kind of behaviour as....racist?...hypocrite? I dunno....

[Caomhaoin]

Noticed a stiff increase in petrol prices this morning.

Fair play to anyone putting up refugees, big sacrifice. The numbers are staggering.

[jobrok1]

Yes we have a spare room and have offered it up to Ukrainian refugees. We are family of 4 so there will be potentially a lot of changes to come.
I saw some FB comments wondering why people didn't offer rooms to Afghanistan/Yemenese refugees. Its a fair point. I really never thought of it before, probably a deep seated bias in my behalf.

Been getting a couple of trolls about this for fundraising through the IMA bandcamp the other day.
Simple fact is Ukraine is just that bit closer to home and has much more of an impact to us here.
I know a few Ukranians, through kids schools and at work. I also know and work with quite a few Polish people who have stepped up big time during all this, so I'm more than happy to help them too.

I'm not trying to sound like a cunt or anything, but I don't know a single Afghan or Yemenese person.
It shouldn't make a difference, I know! But it does, like!

[Necro Red]

Anyone else thinking about accommodating refugees if it comes to that? It's only myself and my wife here and we have a big spare bedroom with bathroom that is available (once I clear my stuff out if it)

I find it interesting that Irish people are happy to put up homeless people from another country, yet there is still a homeless crisis here in this country. I'm not having a go at anyone now, just find it interesting.

[Eoin McLove]

Apples and oranges. If you are taking in a family coming from Ukraine they are unlikely to be heroin addicts. That's maybe a nasty thing to say but it's also true.