Are we all fucked?

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Apparently she has almost 4 million monthly listeners. Rogan I think has 11 million average for his podcast, so it's more, but not exactly dwarfing her. Frampton also chimed in his approval of Young's move. Be interesting to see if anyone born after 1960 does anything, with all their regular high and mighty tweeting "action"

[Caomhaoin]

11 v 4 is significantly in excess of 'more'.

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Young has/had 6.2 million monthly listeners. Not bad for artists of their vintage. Probably quite a lot of crossover between Mitchell's and Young's listeners, so can't just add them together for a grand total, but still, considering how much was paid to get Rogan, it makes it clearly not nothing that at least over half as many people as listen to him are now put in a situation where they're being obliged (rightly or wrongly) to consider their Spotify subscription if they wish to continue with their regular listening habits.

[Caomhaoin]

Fair enough, but grandstanding over a tiny proportion of TJRE podcast episodes to the extent that they are boycotting Spotify? NSBM, nazi punk and various shady 'commentators' are widely available to whinge about, rather than a podcast host who loves 12 skinners and pull ups spraffing a bit of bullshit about coronavirus vaccines. He's hardly denying the holocaust.

I can understand why people dislike Spotify (they could pay a bit more for one thing), but there would be even more reason for antipathy if they even compromised on, let alone gave in to this nonsense.

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But isn't Rogan's 11m per podcast? He sees to release a few podcasts a week so completely dwarfs Young and Mitchell combined.

Saw someone made a link between Young and Pfizer. Seemingly Hipgnosis bought 50% of Young's catalogue in recent times and they have connections to a company run by an ex-ceo of Pfizer. Think that was it anyway. Weaponised autism.

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As I said above, I guess it was the straw that broke the camel's back. Not only did Spotify give more money to this lad than they've ever given to actual creators of music, but the lad in question is pissing off some of those creators. They saw a thing they could do to piss off a company who has never done anything to endear itself to their primary interest group (musicians), and they did it. Good for them. It would be nice if they weren't making it *all* about COVID when they talk about it, but hey, nothing's perfect in the world and it is great to see Spotify get a kick up the arse reminder of who they actually rely on. Two musicians, well past their prime, nevertheless succeeding in shaking the Goliath of modern music cuntery.

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Saw someone made a link between Young and Pfizer. Seemingly Hipgnosis bought 50% of Young's catalogue in recent times and they have connections to a company run by an ex-ceo of Pfizer. Think that was it anyway. Weaponised autism.

The link is via Blackstone, who have their finger in every pie, including Spotify.

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I'm on the fence about the whole Neil Young thing. I'm very much anticensorship but, for sure, people have died due to Rogan's antivax stuff. So, what do you do? I dunno. Neil Young has always come across as a fella with integrity so in one way I admire his stance and I can see why he did it. But, does it come off a bit stroppish? Possibly.

I've only dipped into the JRE here and there so wouldn't consider myself a fan. He's clever enough to run a good show but not clever or informed enough to be giving advice on topics he has no real knowledge of imo. I wouldn't take anything he said on board outside of MMA and as I'm not a fan of that, well..

And as he's already mired in controversy, he probably wasn't too wise coming out with the following...

"Controversial podcast host Joe Rogan said he thinks it's strange for people to use "Black" as a descriptor for Black people "unless you are talking to someone who is like 100% African from the darkest place."

[Caomhaoin]

Here, he bullshits about MMA on a far grander scale than he ever has about the virus. He's also a shit colour commentator.

[ldj]

Yeah anything that fucks with Spotify isn't a bad thing, it would really take a current artist the level of Taylor Swift or Adele or something to have an effect though, one of those artists that has a weird almost cult like fanbase lol.

The thing with Rogan is, I don't think he should be 'cancelled' or de-platformed, I just wish people that listened to it actually did research on stuff before adopting shite they hear on his podcast as part of their personality.

Like the other day Jordan Peterson was on questioning climate change, Jordan Peterson isn't a scientist, he's a psychologist, he has zero qualifications in science, and yet he's there denying climate change and millions of people who listen won't question it because he sounds eloquent and they think that means must be an expert on the subject.

Every Joe Rogan episode should have Bill Burr on hand in case someone starts bullshitting "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1chYhsp3NRw

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A mate described Peterson as too intelligence the other day. That's the demographic we should worry about. Haha.

Watched that BB podcast at the time and that bit fuckin cracked me up.

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Here, he bullshits about MMA on a far grander scale than he ever has about the virus. He's also a shit colour commentator.

He is actually the UFC's best commentator by a country mile. DC is the commentator that they need to get rid of.

[mickO)))]

I'm on the fence about the whole Neil Young thing. I'm very much anticensorship but, for sure, people have died due to Rogan's antivax stuff. So, what do you do?

Who died based on what Joe Rogan has said about the vaccine? And he is not antivax he is anti this vaccine it is not the same thing.

Like the other day Jordan Peterson was on questioning climate change, Jordan Peterson isn't a scientist, he's a psychologist, he has zero qualifications in science, and yet he's there denying climate change and millions of people who listen won't question it because he sounds eloquent and they think that means must be an expert on the subject.

I haven't listened to the Peterson podcast yet but Bill Gates isn't a scientist or a doctor yet that hasn't stopped his opinions on both the pandemic or climate change from being rammed down our throats on a daily basis for the last 2 years.

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It's very clear that the vast, vast majority of people in the 18-49 age bracket who have died of COVID in the US since the vaccine has been available have been unvaccinated:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~18-49

Every public figure, especially one with 11 million listeners, almost all of them within that precise age bracket, who insists on spreading their "opinion" on whether or not young people should get vaccinated, should at least stop and reflect a moment about that fact. It's where Rogan's reality as a moron crashes into his self-perception as a critical thinker.

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Bill Burr nails it in that video, talking about the mask: morons like Rogan made it a badge of "macho" honour not to wear it. And it's exactly the same thing he did regarding the vaccine; played it directly into macho pride. If you relied on your own immune system, that was made to seem more manly than getting a vaccine. Okay. So, all the unvaccinated men under 50 who died, bitches every one? I wonder if Rogan would be willing to articulate that logical conclusion of his own moronic bullshit.