Yeah, the two wee clips I saw were utterly off the wall. Not even in the usual "I disagree with JP on most points" way, but more like he's coming undone at the mental seams. His claim about climate is the equivalent of saying, "You can't make a map of the world, because the world is everything, so to make a map of it, you'd have to put everything in it." But the bible clip a mate sent is even more surreal. Genuinely think he hasn't quite finished his therapy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt9K6kmpx44


Never really knew anything about Jordan Peterson.
Had a look on his Instagram there.
Seems like a right fuckin tool who loves the sound of his own voice.


Jordan "lobster something something" Peterson.

Ya, not a fan either.

Just saw someone post that they were cancelling their Spotify in support of Neil Young's stand. Unbelievable fuckin spastic. Sad really.

Yeah, quite a few people are apparently cancelling their Spotify. I'd say it's a compounding of various factors: their investment in the military industrial complex and lack of investment in, y'know, music. If anyone is actually deleting it only because of the Joe Rogan COVID stuff, well, yeah, that's a bit of a "Why now?" from me. But I hate Spotify, so whatever the individual reasons, it's all good!

Quote from: Ollkiller on January 27, 2022, 06:03:54 PM
Jordan "lobster something something" Peterson.

A withering, devastating critique.

Nevertheless, JP does not look or sound healthy at all in that clip posted above. Hard to know what he's on about.

As for Neil Young, why did he delete his open letter? I thought he sold the rights, or some of them, to his choons last year? So can he pull them?

It seems he is being influenced by the media portrayal of Joe Rogan, because he hasn't given any concrete examples of 'misinformation'.

Spotify don't censor to anywhere near the same extent that other insidious tech giants do, so fair play for that at least. Just sing your songs and shut the fuck up Neil.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on January 28, 2022, 07:30:42 AM
Quote from: Ollkiller on January 27, 2022, 06:03:54 PM
Jordan "lobster something something" Peterson.

A withering, devastating critique.

I watched two of his talks years ago. One was about his 12 points and i was like is there people who actually need these points. Second talk he went on a ramble about lobsters. So if for some reason Peterson makes your life better fair enough, and i don't get the hysteria piled at him but what hes peddling aint for me. He debated Stephen Fry didn't he. That was at least watchable.

I've found a bit of Petersons stuff interesting, never really enough though to look more into him, but the few clips I've seen from that Rogan podcast are just odd. He definitely didn't seem like he was completely together

Quote from: Caomhaoin on January 28, 2022, 07:30:42 AM
It seems he is being influenced by the media portrayal of Joe Rogan, because he hasn't given any concrete examples of 'misinformation'.

Plenty of concrete examples were given in another open letter to Spotify signed by a couple hundred scientists about a week ago. Could be that this got Young's attention. There has been certainly absolutely no lack of Rogan talking shit about, first COVID then the vaccine, over the last two years. If you want examples, they're easy to find. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, wha'!

I don't know how people have managed to turn this into Neil Young trying to 'censor' Joe Rogan, he just doesn't want his music on the same platform as the shite Rogan peddles.

Neil Young survived polio when he was a kid, he lived because of a vaccine, if he doesn't want to share a platform with a guy who gets paid 100's of millions to tell morons a horse dewormer can be used to treat covid, then that's up to him.


#491 January 28, 2022, 10:03:45 AM Last Edit: January 28, 2022, 10:09:46 AM by Eoin McLove
I haven't listened to Rogan since he went to Spotify and it sounds like he's gone sideways on the whole Covid thing, but influencing people? People can make up their own minds about Covid, surely? Even his apparently moronic crowd... his show was great when I used to pick through it and he introduced me to a wide range of interesting characters. Neil Young not wanting to "share a platform" (what an utterly meaningless phrase) is fucking pathetic. As if all of the bands and podcasters on Spotify are in some way contaminated by "sharing a platform" with someone whose opinion they don't like on a show they probably don't even watch. Such a fucking baby. The cunt should have his polio shoe jammed in his fucking tuneless ear  :laugh: :laugh:

I bet poor oul Neil burnt all his Harry Potter books too, the fucking muppet. Jesus Christ.

Look out, it's the ALT RIGHT!

Yeah people can make up their own minds on Covid, and Neil Young made up his. A lot of people very offended someone dare disagree with Joe Rogan  :laugh:.

#493 January 28, 2022, 10:16:27 AM Last Edit: January 28, 2022, 10:18:28 AM by Black Shepherd Carnage
As I said above, I would absolutely love it if by some kind of chaotic butterfly effect it all snowballs and Spotify crashes and burns. That won't happen, but I would love to see it if it did. So fair play to Neil Young: he didn't just tweet or piss and moan, he did something. Not much of a something, but still an actual act, reminding people that actual action is an option. Don't forget that somewhere behind all this is the fact that Spotify, who built themselves up by stomping on the backs of musicians and giving them nothing in return, then turned around and gave more money to Joe Rogan than they had given to any artist. That got a lot of bad blood churning. Now, if beyond that, he's using his 100 million dollar platform to vulcanize idiots, not only with bullshit science, but with the idea that believing in bullshit science actually makes them, like Rogan, "critical thinkers", jesus, please yes, get the marshmallows out and burn it all down. Why the fuck not?