Are we all fucked?

[Giggles]

Higher taxes for the working class and throw more money at it. That will strengthen the security systems and keep us all safe
Or make it compulsary for patients to login at their doctors office with their smartphones, to make sure it's really them.

[astfgyl]

Higher taxes for the working class and throw more money at it. That will strengthen the security systems and keep us all safe
Or make it compulsary for patients to login at their doctors office with their smartphones, to make sure it's really them.

Yep that should just about do it!

[astfgyl]

https://www.mtdmfg.com/news/uk-small-modular-reactor-consortium-led-by-rolls-royce-set-to-create-40000-jobs/

Back to the topic of energy sources, this seems like a good idea. In fact even at the high cost of 2 billion quid each, Ireland could have built 15 or 20 of them with the amount they borrowed and blew in the last 12 months. It feels like there must be some sort of catch I'm missing though.

Also that reminds me of something I saw a few years ago about a very human nature themed problem.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-time_nuclear_waste_warning_messages
I can't think of anything that would deter rather than encourage people to find out but maybe humanity will have learned a few lessons in the next 10,000 years or so.

[son of the Morrigan]

Watched a very interesting documentary on TnaG about the huge nuclear waste storage bunker in Uppsala Sweden a few years back, dealing with the issue of whether or not to mark the bunker for future generations and if it was going to be marked, what language/signage to use, given the very likely possibility that todays languages and indeed present day human understanding of signs will be long obsolete while the waste in question will be as dangerous as it is today.
I'm dead against nuclear power personally, the plants themselves are ticking time bombs, the companies that run them are filthy with corruption and greed and I find the idea of an industrial byproduct being produced that is toxic for 100,000 years abhorrent.
The idea of Ireland getting involved in nuclear power production puts shivers down my back, we can't organize a proper sewage treatment system, we can't organize a proper water supply system, we can't organize a proper waste management system, our environmental  protection legislation and oversight system is a joke and every government department has been corrupted by private business interests. Nuclear power? fuck off!

[astfgyl]

Watched a very interesting documentary on TnaG about the huge nuclear waste storage bunker in Uppsala Sweden a few years back, dealing with the issue of whether or not to mark the bunker for future generations and if it was going to be marked, what language/signage to use, given the very likely possibility that todays languages and indeed present day human understanding of signs will be long obsolete while the waste in question will be as dangerous as it is today.
I'm dead against nuclear power personally, the plants themselves are ticking time bombs, the companies that run them are filthy with corruption and greed and I find the idea of an industrial byproduct being produced that is toxic for 100,000 years abhorrent.
The idea of Ireland getting involved in nuclear power production puts shivers down my back, we can't organize a proper sewage treatment system, we can't organize a proper water supply system, we can't organize a proper waste management system, our environmental  protection legislation and oversight system is a joke and every government department has been corrupted by private business interests. Nuclear power? fuck off!

That doc is where I first learned of the problem too. Really interesting stuff. Re the nuclear power, I find it hard to disagree with your points, especially around the Irish situation but I'm still not convinced it's a bad thing in itself. The waste issue hasn't been in any way solved though so that is a serious problem. The point of it being run by shady cunts of companies is fair but unfortunately applies to almost all industry worldwide when we get down to it so I don't feel that's exclusive to nuclear power companies at all. There is a fair bit of shit with the renewables as well, although I am still in favour of them. I really wish that Tesla had revealed his free energy idea before he popped his clogs though, just to see if it was a runner or not. My main issue with the forthcoming green revolution is that it is going to be like so many other things where most will be priced out of everything and nuclear energy would address that situation somewhat in the medium term of the next half century or so.

[astfgyl]

Greta Thunberg wears disposable masks responsibly.

[Eoin McLove]

From what I understand they have found ways to recycle some of the waste back into the plant as a cooling agent which, I think, reduce the output of waste further. Funnily, it seems that nuclear might be the way forward ecologically speaking if they can continue to reduce the amount of waste to negligible levels. I was chatting to a guy last year who was an engineer and had worked in that end of things and he said that because of the few famous disasters we have seen in recent decades, the plants themselves are becoming over- engineered (in a positive way) to make them almost indestructible. It doesn't seem like there will be a single solution to how we manufacture the world's energy and because nuclear is becoming cleaner and is so effective, it'll likely be here to stay. I love the idea of having Ireland completely run on solar, wind and wave energy, but that doesn't look likely to become a reality any time soon. Who knows, though, there might be some new way to harness energy that will revolutionise the whole kit and kaboodle.

[astfgyl]

I had always thought of nuclear power as a bad thing, and in ways it still is, but the points you make re the advances in plant design and the fact that the world needs powering and it can't be fossil fuels any more makes a case for it. The eco/green movement is like anything anyway, it seems perfectly logical and right on the face of it but it's another money train once it gets looked into so things like the damage of getting lithium out of the earth for batteries (https://www.volkswagenag.com/en/news/stories/2020/03/lithium-mining-what-you-should-know-about-the-contentious-issue.html I didn't realise how finite that resource was) or using fossil fuels to manufacture solar panels at the expense of things like nuclear or hydrogen engine (probably not the answer but worth a look rather than all-in on one single solution) development etc will be rampant. That kneeling at the altar of profit thing of course applies to everything and not only the green movement and is a large contributing factor to why we might feel like this thread's title. And yeah hopefully some new stuff will be developed at some point, as soon as Bob Lazar's old pals figure out how that thing works!

[astfgyl]

Here's a beauty from Sky News Australia. Was going to put it in the offended thread but here will do since there's a bit of the greta in it again.

https://rumble.com/vhoz5l-australian-newscaster-makes-mincemeat-out-of-brat-greta-thunberg.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1

Wouldn't get this on RTE.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Ah now, I wouldn't go so far as to say RTE are totally without sweeping statements and non-sequiturs.

[astfgyl]

Yeah the greta thing was seemingly just wedged in there with the misleading headline. I thought yer man was funny giving out to the kids of australia though. Still can't imagine Brian Dobson coming out with it

[Blackout]

Seems to be a growing societal trend among attention seeking parents to have their obnoxious little shits preach to the rest of the world. You see it all of the time in television ads etc.

[Eoin McLove]

I'm on the fence in this regard. Do I want to listen to anything a fifteen year old says about anything? No. But then, Greta isn't aimed at me and if her message about ecological awareness is filtering into the minds of her cohort then it might be a good thing for the future.

[Blackout]

It hasn't stopped her cohort from buying the environment destroying products they wear, use and post tik tok videos on.  Take those away and greta becomes equivalent to the monster under their bed.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

It hasn't stopped her cohort from buying the environment destroying products they wear, use and post tik tok videos on.

It is true that one 15 year old girl hasn't yet managed to take down the titanic Goliath of media and marketing that uses a constant explicit assault of brain-washing techniques to arrive at its objectives. Sky News Australia, of which I knew little before the last year, has proved itself in that time to be on a par for wanton ignorant retardedness with Info Wars. Who runs it again? Oh yeah, that lying dickhead billionaire mogul of the media and marketing world who uses a constant explicit assault of brain-washing techniques to arrive at his objectives.