Are we all fucked?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

You can look at it more simply. The more carbon there is in the atmosphere the higher the temperature of the planet. We're fucking a shit load of carbon into the atmosphere since the 1950's and temperatures are increasing.

This is the comparison I've made to it before:
https://www.facebook.com/metaphysiology/posts/1146342842203164

[astfgyl]

Nuclear does seem the way forward but not without a rather large amount of risk. Fukushima was still pissing out waste into the ocean last I checked. Couple more of those wouldn't do us any good. Or that story about the forest fires near Chernobyl and what they would release if left off was worrying as well. Even so, I'd be in agreement about the nuclear power. The texas situation doesn't make a great case for wind energy in certain circumstances but I am surprised that more hasn't been put into other renewables like hydro and tidal energy or even the dearth of solar power despite its' relative cheapness compared to say a decade ago is surprising. Even if a certain amount of fossil fuels were still in use for a while they could surely be very well supplemented with what other options we have. All signs point toward the next decade seeing massive change in that regard so we shall see. Don't think fusion is quite there yet.

Would also love to know what exactly it was that Tesla had in mind with his idea of using the earth itself as a capacitor or something along those lines

I still feel other influences such as the sun itself have more bearing than we give it credit for but that's just a hunch and no reason not to steam ahead with cleaning up things up that we can control. I also wondered at times what sort of geological effect doing things like taking the oil out from under the ground has. Imagine if it had even a tiny effect on something like the rotation of the earth or in some way effected how the crust floats on the mantle and we didn't know about it yet.

You can look at it more simply. The more carbon there is in the atmosphere the higher the temperature of the planet. We're fucking a shit load of carbon into the atmosphere since the 1950's and temperatures are increasing.

This is the comparison I've made to it before:
https://www.facebook.com/metaphysiology/posts/1146342842203164

Yes very good, and I do recall that from much earlier in this very thread. No doubt it is mostly ourselves we would fuck up and presumably a lot of mammals along with us but the likes of the cockroaches or the extremophile bacteria would be laughing

[Kurt Cocaine]

  That's not a mountain. That's a rubbish site in Ghazipur just outside Delhi in India.
Pretty impressive....

[The Butcher]

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-55018581

"Thanks to lockdowns in early 2020, carbon emissions fell by 17% at their peak, but the overall effect on concentrations has been very small.

Preliminary estimates suggest that CO2 will continue to increase this year but that rise will be reduced by 0.08 to 0.23ppm. "

This was back in first lockdown when you also had most of China in full lockdown and most of Europe. So even when people are locked away in their homes, transport down massively, it doesn't budge emissions by much. I don't think there is much stomach across the world to do what climate action folks/groups expect to be done which would be far more reaching than what has been experienced during lockdown.

[astfgyl]

Gonna have to look at carbon capture judging by those stats

[Nazgûl]

https://mobile.twitter.com/rice_e/status/1362427619275341831

Michael Ryan saying it exactly as he sees it. Astfgyl you might have a few things to disagree with him on I'm sure. 

[Kurt Cocaine]

I'd say astfygl agrees with everything Dr Ryan says there. How could anyone not agree with him?

[Ollkiller]

https://mobile.twitter.com/rice_e/status/1362427619275341831

Michael Ryan saying it exactly as he sees it. Astfgyl you might have a few things to disagree with him on I'm sure. 

He's dead right. Especially how society is based on profit and economic growth and fuck any other way of living.

[astfgyl]

Let me guess, the solution is stakeholder capitalism from our partners the WEF?

of course what he says there is all fair enough and I would say the same thing but let's see what is in store as a solution.

Also laughed at the part where he says "someday our children will wake up in a world where there is a pandemic"

Time to build back better.

And no I don't disagree with his assertion that globalism is a bad thing and that the solutions should be aimed at improving things at a  community level, but what does he offer as a solution?

[Ollkiller]

Let me guess, the solution is stakeholder capitalism from our partners the WEF?

of course what he says there is all fair enough and I would say the same thing but let's see what is in store as a solution.

Also laughed at the part where he says "someday our children will wake up in a world where there is a pandemic"

Time to build back better.

And no I don't disagree with his assertion that globalism is a bad thing and that the solutions should be aimed at improving things at a  community level, but what does he offer as a solution?

There's literally tons of things you could do. And mostly none of them will be done. Because of money. Capatilism is a great system but without checks and balances it's the fucking monster it is today. What could you do.

Nuclear for energy needs.
Eradication of fossil fuels.
Print money for people. They do it all the time for banks.
Get out of the fucking weight of buying a house that enslaves people. Housing should be a right not a privilege. Along with health and clean drinking water.
Corporations based in a country pay the same amount of tax you and I do in that country. Would give countries way more revenue to spend on social services. Ya know, benefiting people rather than a balance sheet.
Edit: fucking disposable cups, plates etc. Everyone get a keep cup. You don't bring it to the shop then no skinny latte mocha cunt cup of coffee for ya. If your business doesn't do biodegradable packaging, then you can't operate.

I could go on, there's no end to amount of things and ideas that could be done. But fuck all will be done. Because A, the rich and people in power don't want to do it. B, because it would need to be done on a global scale  and C, people are fucking idiots. They think this is the only system that could work and cant get their head around any other way. Fucking setting up the powerful to keep raping the other 99%.

[astfgyl]

Let me guess, the solution is stakeholder capitalism from our partners the WEF?

of course what he says there is all fair enough and I would say the same thing but let's see what is in store as a solution.

Also laughed at the part where he says "someday our children will wake up in a world where there is a pandemic"

Time to build back better.

And no I don't disagree with his assertion that globalism is a bad thing and that the solutions should be aimed at improving things at a  community level, but what does he offer as a solution?

There's literally tons of things you could do. And mostly none of them will be done. Because of money. Capatilism is a great system but without checks and balances it's the fucking monster it is today. What could you do.

Nuclear for energy needs.
Eradication of fossil fuels.
Print money for people. They do it all the time for banks.
Get out of the fucking weight of buying a house that enslaves people. Housing should be a right not a privilege. Along with health and clean drinking water.
Corporations based in a country pay the same amount of tax you and I do in that country. Would give countries way more revenue to spend on social services. Ya know, benefiting people rather than a balance sheet.
Edit: fucking disposable cups, plates etc. Everyone get a keep cup. You don't bring it to the shop then no skinny latte mocha cunt cup of coffee for ya. If your business doesn't do biodegradable packaging, then you can't operate.

I could go on, there's no end to amount of things and ideas that could be done. But fuck all will be done. Because A, the rich and people in power don't want to do it. B, because it would need to be done on a global scale  and C, people are fucking idiots. They think this is the only system that could work and cant get their head around any other way. Fucking setting up the powerful to keep raping the other 99%.

You have rakes of good ideas there that I fully agree with and all fit into my own idea of an ideal world. I would be fully behind every one of them.

I was wondering what dr Ryan is proposing though because you can be certain it will be a far cry from the sort of things you are saying or anything I would come up with myself.

The WHO are in partnership with the WEF and the solution offered by the WEF is something called stakeholder capitalism, which is worth looking into if you want to expand upon that vision of the boot stamping on a human face forever. It is not the utopia that I would envision.

[astfgyl]

I just had an idea. What if everyone had a limited amount of miles they could personally do in their car and that would encourage us all to use the bike or the feet for the oul trip to the shop or wherever local, and keep the miles for the good stuff? There's a solution of a kind while we wait for a decent electric car that can actually bring us somewhere.

Be a better idea than lockdowns...

[Ollkiller]

Let me guess, the solution is stakeholder capitalism from our partners the WEF?

of course what he says there is all fair enough and I would say the same thing but let's see what is in store as a solution.

Also laughed at the part where he says "someday our children will wake up in a world where there is a pandemic"

Time to build back better.

And no I don't disagree with his assertion that globalism is a bad thing and that the solutions should be aimed at improving things at a  community level, but what does he offer as a solution?

There's literally tons of things you could do. And mostly none of them will be done. Because of money. Capatilism is a great system but without checks and balances it's the fucking monster it is today. What could you do.

Nuclear for energy needs.
Eradication of fossil fuels.
Print money for people. They do it all the time for banks.
Get out of the fucking weight of buying a house that enslaves people. Housing should be a right not a privilege. Along with health and clean drinking water.
Corporations based in a country pay the same amount of tax you and I do in that country. Would give countries way more revenue to spend on social services. Ya know, benefiting people rather than a balance sheet.
Edit: fucking disposable cups, plates etc. Everyone get a keep cup. You don't bring it to the shop then no skinny latte mocha cunt cup of coffee for ya. If your business doesn't do biodegradable packaging, then you can't operate.

I could go on, there's no end to amount of things and ideas that could be done. But fuck all will be done. Because A, the rich and people in power don't want to do it. B, because it would need to be done on a global scale  and C, people are fucking idiots. They think this is the only system that could work and cant get their head around any other way. Fucking setting up the powerful to keep raping the other 99%.

You have rakes of good ideas there that I fully agree with and all fit into my own idea of an ideal world. I would be fully behind every one of them.

I was wondering what dr Ryan is proposing though because you can be certain it will be a far cry from the sort of things you are saying or anything I would come up with myself.

The WHO are in partnership with the WEF and the solution offered by the WEF is something called stakeholder capitalism, which is worth looking into if you want to expand upon that vision of the boot stamping on a human face forever. It is not the utopia that I would envision.

Stakeholder capitalism, I'll check it out, But id nearly guarantee it goes nowhere what is actually needed.

[astfgyl]

Oh fuck no, it doesn't even touch on being anything that will be good for anyone bar whoever controls it

[Kurt Cocaine]

"I should have put it up higher"....... duh

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0303/1200650-greta-thunberg-mural/