Are we all fucked?

[astfgyl]

A friend of mine told me that his brother couldn't get to work on time today, because he couldn't charge his car last night due to his wifi being down.

Wtaf lol

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

"Events of this type, which used to occur many decades apart, are now becoming more frequent and their destructive capacity is greater," said Ernesto Rodriguez Camino, senior state meteorologist and a member of the Spanish Meteorological Association.

64 dead in Valencia, many still missing. The images are fairly apocalyptic. Whatever one may believe or not believe the cause is, the increased frequency is going to impose some serious civil rethinking.

[astfgyl]

Honest to God I never knew spain had floods fairly regularly at all, or tornadoes for that matter but apparently they're a thing there all along. As to the frequency I dunno I didn't really read into it. Looks fairly fucking strong at the minute anyway and rip to the victims.

Do they mitigate for it at all, infrastructure-wise?

[leatherface]

I'm in the south of Spain. This kind of weather is expected at this time of year, not strictly an indication of climate issues. There have been bad storms here before, even here in the south, including a lot of tragedy associated. What happened earlier this week was shocking and tragic however and mostly confined to north, midlands and north east where rivers can swell or wherever the land slopes. Damage to *mostly old infrastructure (houses/bridges) in rural areas from what I have seen on national news. There is still more being reported, even urban areas, the full details havent emerged. Horrifying.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

200+ dead in the region, around 1,500 still unaccounted for.

Premier Carlos Mazón, of the right-wing Partido Popular, also waited until 8:30 p.m. to formally request the assistance of the national Military Emergency Unit and resisted calling a state of emergency as it would have meant handing over authority to the central government in Madrid, headed by Pedro Sánchez's broad-left coalition. He also tweeted at noon Tuesday that the worst of the storm would have passed by 6 p.m.

In part, this reflected his administration's broader laissez faire approach to climate change, with his coalition government agreement with the far-right Vox in 2023 including the elimination of the recently set up Valencian Emergency Response Unit. As journalist Antonio Maestre wrote on Wednesday, that one of Mazón's first executive actions was to abolish that unit "conveys the message that nothing is wrong, that the climate crisis will not affect us and that there is no need to worry about what that paradigm shift entails for the lives of thousands of people."

Vox pulled out of Mazón's administration this summer over the existential threat that unaccompanied migrant children supposedly pose to law and order in Spain. Yet in the days leading up to the floods, the online alt-right heaped scorn on the meteorological office's repeated warnings of expected extreme rainfall.

https://jacobin.com/2024/10/spain-disaster-floods-climate-denialism

(Parental warning: Explicit far-left perspectives!)

[astfgyl]

Fucking hell lad, does everything have to boil down to US style identity politics with you?

We have separate topics for a reason

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

If you stopped to think a second I believe you'd have copped I was jokingly getting ahead of the curve of any mook who might try to side-step dealing with concrete well-sourced arguments with a dismissive wave of the hand stating that it's an article from Jacobin. Y'know, same strategy used when it was claimed against me that Channel 4 can't be trusted, or that anything merely aired on Al Jazeera (even if it wasn't made by Al Jazeera) must also be summarily dismissed rather than factually confronted: the usual kind of shite we're used to on here from folk who will nevertheless then in all earnestness post and defend outrageous statements from Fox or SS wannabes or simply sources unrevealed.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The campaign group Global Witness posed undercover as a fake oil and gas group asking for deals to be facilitated in exchange for sponsoring [Cop29].

In the calls, Elnur Soltanov, Azerbaijan's deputy energy minister and chief executive of Cop29, agreed to this and spoke of a future that includes fossil fuels "perhaps for ever". Cop officials also introduced the fake investor to a senior executive at the national oil and gas company Socar to discuss investment opportunities.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/nov/08/cop29-ceo-filmed-agreeing-to-facilitate-fossil-fuel-deals-at-climate-summit

[astfgyl]

But there should be fossil fuels for the things that they are best at.

And nuclear as well, lots of that.

And wind turbines, plenty of those too.

And solar, lots of that sunshine left in the world.

And hydro, the eels can have separate channels dug for them if we really care enough.

People are stupid to throw all their eggs in the one basket.

If everything went full Mad Max tomorrow, would you rather have a diesel or an electric car?

Going all in on any single ideology is madness

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Especially when that ideology is capitalism! 

[astfgyl]

Especially when that ideology is capitalism! 

I agree!!! And especially everything else as well!!!

[leatherface]

So Biden just gave Ukraine carte blanche to fire long range missiles into Russia. Zelensky very happy with new toys to play with. If you have a bucketlist of things to do/achieve then start making that list now.

[Eoin McLove]

Yup. A bold move. Brave or foolhardy, we might not live to find out the answer 

[astfgyl]

Just when we thought he was taking the election results a bit too well...

[astfgyl]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c33nv8x64mlo

He is anyway