Are we all fucked?

[astfgyl]

Soft cunt crying about the weather lol

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Well which is it? Was he soft then and now relieved? Or intentionally dramatizing then and now cynically "very disappointed"?

[astfgyl]

Dramatising and now disappointed. The narrative must be upheld at all costs

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I can see that!

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I haven't seen it, but a new series 'Rising Tides' has premiered on the RTE Player:
https://www.rte.ie/player/series/rising-tides--ireland-s-future-in-a-warmer-world/10002411-00-0000?epguid=IP10002407-01-0001

Recent radio spot with the presenter, incl. interview (at 9m30) with the researchers/authors of the paper below:
https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22432971/

"Warning of a forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation"
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-39810-w

[The Butcher]

Assessments by the IPCC based on climate models suggest a full collapse in the 21st century is unlikely while this report gives a 95% confidence interval ranging from 2025 to 2095. The range is wide because they don't have enough data - Direct measurements of the AMOC have only been available since 2004. They extend these measurements out with other  historical climate proxies but even that comes with margins of error! Important to point out the uncertainties.

People will jump on co2 to blame everything but we've built out our towns and expanded cities, increased farmland, terraformed whole landscapes across the world and that all has an impact on drainage, rainfall generated, albedo and temperature. The elephant in the room is the movement of populations from lower carbon emitting countries to the west. Our native populations are decreasing but we have massive migration across the western world preventing it from dropping. Then there is the 3rd world dilemma, bit like Brazil and the rainforest. They'll use Fossil fuels to fight poverty because they've got bigger day to day problems, do we penalise them for that when Europe already cleared its forests, Brazil now doing the same. Maybe if it was the other way around the forests of Europe would have been called the lungs of the world instead of the Amazon rainforest.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Not only are there several elephants in the room (in the case of Ireland, another one would be the fact that ~90% of our livestock and dairy agriculture--incidentally the majority cause of the rather pathetic amount of wild forest we have ourselves--is destined for export), but some of those elephants, such as the massive migration you point to, are standing on the backs of turtles in the room that are even bigger and have been there even longer (e.g. "imperialist" resource exploitation, consequent funneling of wealth away from benefits to native populations, related armed conflicts, etc., etc.).

A complete rethink and total overhaul of our global economic system seems absolutely necessary to me, but that doesn't seem a priority, and its very possibility is being fought against from both sides (neolib and conservative).

As for the AMOC thing, you're absolutely right it's important to point out the uncertainties. The boul beor Claire actually does so at a couple of key points  I presume the 95% confidence interval is a "given X, Y, Z" assumptions they fed into the model along with the data, and those assumptions will have their own degrees of uncertainty. But anyway, if anyone's interested, yoke on RTE Player about AMOC.

[John Kimble]

This could have gone in any number of threads, and in a way there's an air of inevitability to it all but yeah...

First-of-its-kind social media influencer degree launched in Carlow

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/first-kind-social-media-influencer-33948760#ICID=Android_IrishMirrorNewsApp_AppShare

I've tried to distance myself from social media as much as possible but I guess I'm a different generation and now this is being seen as a legitimate career choice.

[jobrok1]

I bet it's one of the many failed social media influencers that will run the course.

[John Kimble]

Don't get me wrong, I pissed about in college years ago doing an arts degree that was fuck all use to me in the end, but at least there was some academic merit to it. Just looking at that "course" there, one of the modules is "celebrity studies"...Jesus wept!!

[The Butcher]

Should be modules on 'AI Avatars' / 'Bot Farms' / 'Dead Internet Theory' and then they will slowly realise this career is doomed  :

[John Kimble]

I have a 9 year old daughter who's absolutely obsessed with YouTube. I kind of ignored it initially as harmless enough, but she was playing some video in the car the other day and I overheard it. Not word for word but in that annoying Yank AI voice, "like and subscribe otherwise your parents won't love you anymore". It's absolute detritus. I had a good talk with her and she seems savvy enough to know it was nonsense, but at the same time I can see how, in time, something social media related could appeal as a legitimate career path. I hope the bubble has burst by then.

[astfgyl]

I have a 9 year old daughter who's absolutely obsessed with YouTube. I kind of ignored it initially as harmless enough, but she was playing some video in the car the other day and I overheard it. Not word for word but in that annoying Yank AI voice, "like and subscribe otherwise your parents won't love you anymore". It's absolute detritus. I had a good talk with her and she seems savvy enough to know it was nonsense, but at the same time I can see how, in time, something social media related could appeal as a legitimate career path. I hope the bubble has burst by then.

Exact same conversation had with the 9 year olds in my house. It's awful. That and fuckin roblox is Satan as well

[Giggles]

A friend of mine told me that his brother couldn't get to work on time today, because he couldn't charge his car last night due to his wifi being down.

[Anvil]

Would be even more hilarious if he worked from home.