Quote from: Pentagrimes on July 21, 2026, 02:40:53 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on July 20, 2026, 10:23:43 PMOslo is a kip. Felt very rough, especially when the sun stared to go down. Junkies and prostitutes everywhere. Plenty to see there, I'm sure, but just a bit of a shithole, especially compared to Bergen.

Interesting, I suppose as I say myself and the hellspawn weren't exactly out on the lash in the city centre, but we definitely walked around it in the evening and I didn't notice a huge amount of that. Definitely not the prettiest city centre I've been in by ay means but didn't strike me as especially rough or tense the way that Dublin does. or other places I've been (hello Vienna). Perhaps if I'd been wandering round late at night I'd have noticed it more. Might have been the part we were staying in was a little calmer  (can't remember the name of the area, a few stops on the tram from the city centre, struck me as a studenty area) as obviously that figures in to things when you're travelling with your kid.

I'd go back, but I'd definitely much rather go back to Bergen or see some of the other cities. Big fan of that part of the world generally.
Quote from: Pentagrimes on July 21, 2026, 02:40:53 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on July 20, 2026, 10:23:43 PMOslo is a kip. Felt very rough, especially when the sun stared to go down. Junkies and prostitutes everywhere. Plenty to see there, I'm sure, but just a bit of a shithole, especially compared to Bergen.

Interesting, I suppose as I say myself and the hellspawn weren't exactly out on the lash in the city centre, but we definitely walked around it in the evening and I didn't notice a huge amount of that. Definitely not the prettiest city centre I've been in by ay means but didn't strike me as especially rough or tense the way that Dublin does. or other places I've been (hello Vienna). Perhaps if I'd been wandering round late at night I'd have noticed it more. Might have been the part we were staying in was a little calmer  (can't remember the name of the area, a few stops on the tram from the city centre, struck me as a studenty area) as obviously that figures in to things when you're travelling with your kid.

I'd go back, but I'd definitely much rather go back to Bergen or see some of the other cities. Big fan of that part of the world generally.
Quote from: Pentagrimes on July 21, 2026, 02:40:53 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on July 20, 2026, 10:23:43 PMOslo is a kip. Felt very rough, especially when the sun stared to go down. Junkies and prostitutes everywhere. Plenty to see there, I'm sure, but just a bit of a shithole, especially compared to Bergen.

Interesting, I suppose as I say myself and the hellspawn weren't exactly out on the lash in the city centre, but we definitely walked around it in the evening and I didn't notice a huge amount of that. Definitely not the prettiest city centre I've been in by ay means but didn't strike me as especially rough or tense the way that Dublin does. or other places I've been (hello Vienna). Perhaps if I'd been wandering round late at night I'd have noticed it more. Might have been the part we were staying in was a little calmer  (can't remember the name of the area, a few stops on the tram from the city centre, struck me as a studenty area) as obviously that figures in to things when you're travelling with your kid.

I'd go back, but I'd definitely much rather go back to Bergen or see some of the other cities. Big fan of that part of the world generally.
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Quote from: Pentagrimes on July 21, 2026, 02:40:53 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on July 20, 2026, 10:23:43 PMOslo is a kip. Felt very rough, especially when the sun stared to go down. Junkies and prostitutes everywhere. Plenty to see there, I'm sure, but just a bit of a shithole, especially compared to Bergen.

Interesting, I suppose as I say myself and the hellspawn weren't exactly out on the lash in the city centre, but we definitely walked around it in the evening and I didn't notice a huge amount of that. Definitely not the prettiest city centre I've been in by ay means but didn't strike me as especially rough or tense the way that Dublin does. or other places I've been (hello Vienna). Perhaps if I'd been wandering round late at night I'd have noticed it more. Might have been the part we were staying in was a little calmer  (can't remember the name of the area, a few stops on the tram from the city centre, struck me as a studenty area) as obviously that figures in to things when you're travelling with your kid.

I'd go back, but I'd definitely much rather go back to Bergen or see some of the other cities. Big fan of that part of the world generally.
Did you think Vienna was dodge?
Was there some years ago, and although very beautiful, it kinda bored me if anything.
Definitely weren't watching over our shoulders anyway...

Not like massively so but there was something a little uneasy about parts of it for sure. I was sitting outside a relatively quiet pub one evening talking to someone and some skinhead guy started on one of the other people stting outside and then the bouncer.Person I was talking to was like "yeah, stuff like that happens all the time around here"

Turin was far dodgier and that was in the daytime,haha

Quote from: Pentagrimes on July 21, 2026, 09:50:51 PMNot like massively so but there was something a little uneasy about parts of it for sure. I was sitting outside a relatively quiet pub one evening talking to someone and some skinhead guy started on one of the other people stting outside and then the bouncer.Person I was talking to was like "yeah, stuff like that happens all the time around here"

Turin was far dodgier and that was in the daytime,haha
Yeah, just checked, it was 2016 when we were in Vienna. A lot has changed around Europe, especially in the last 6 years or so I suppose. Every city has a certain edge to it nowadays I guess...
We visited Vienna at a good time no doubt...

Not to completely hijack the thread but we don't have a general travel one-any metal/punk/noise spots of interest to check in Prague? And yes, I am planning a trip to Kutna Hora.

Bergen-the record/beer shop mentioned was cool, can't remember the name but it was just up the road from Garage. This thread has me googling flights to Norway at work  :laugh:

Quote from: Pentagrimes on July 22, 2026, 09:57:35 AMNot to completely hijack the thread but we don't have a general travel one-any metal/punk/noise spots of interest to check in Prague? And yes, I am planning a trip to Kutna Hora.

Bergen-the record/beer shop mentioned was cool, can't remember the name but it was just up the road from Garage. This thread has me googling flights to Norway at work  :laugh:

There was a great local type non touristy restaurant serving reindeer in Bergen.  Its a lovely city especially down near the water.

Kutna Hora was a handy drive out from Prague,  its a surreal place, the bone chandeliers....

If you are in Oslo the Emanuel Vigeland frescos are something to see