I still give Jugulator spins after making a version with stupid intros cut out of it but, yeah, everything after isn't worth a fuck. The praise Firepower gets is baffling to me.

I came across the Talking Loud podcast recently and listened to the Max Norman episode yesterday, very entertaining. He discusses the Megadeth years in it and, inspired by this, I decided to give Youthanasia another go today, not for the first time. It's where I hopped off the Megadeth train in the first place.

Yeah, it's still fucking terrible. It's gas to think the lads who brought the world Rust In Peace could serve up such limp fare just a few years later. I made it as far as the first few lines of A Tout Le Monde and just had to switch it off. If the first few songs are so empty, the rest surely won't be any better. Still haven't been able to make it all the way through. I'm cleaning my ears out with RIP now, may I never make the same mistake again. Imagine the esteem these bands would be held in if they had the good sense to quit when they were good 😂

Quote from: Bürggermeister on August 22, 2025, 02:06:16 PMI still give Jugulator spins after making a version with stupid intros cut out of it but, yeah, everything after isn't worth a fuck. The praise Firepower gets is baffling to me.

The last 3 Priest albums are like AI albums as far as I'm concerned...1 spin, nothing memorable move on

I quite like Youthanasia. It was after this album I lost interest in Megadeth. I 'd still go to one of the farewell  dates even though Megadeth are one of the most boring bands I have seen live.

#49 August 23, 2025, 09:08:50 PM Last Edit: August 23, 2025, 09:10:39 PM by Cosmic_Equilibrium
Youthanasia is Megadeth's finest hour along with the debut - it's Mustaine's dark masterpiece. Certainly better than the wildly overrated Rust In Peace.

It's interesting about Priest. I like them because up until KK left they were always evolving in some way. That's why the Owens years were so good - even if the studio work wasn't always as consistent as previous eras you still have songs like Cathedral Spires which is easily in their top 3 IMO, and it could be very well argued that the band's live peak was about this time, they had such a brutal sound and sounded reinvigorated and mean. The main problem with Priest now isn't so much the albums but that without KK and Tipton onstage it's pretty much Halford solo.

I might nominate Electric Wizard for this one - the classic era up to and including Let Us Prey is essential and the first few albums after that were good too, but they've seemed to become rather stale and redoing the same groove since.

Reverend Bizarre on the other hand knew exactly when to call it quits on a high with their legacy intact.

There are lots of bands though who maybe aren't at their peak in terms of recorded output anymore but can still deliver live.

#50 August 24, 2025, 12:08:30 AM Last Edit: August 24, 2025, 12:42:48 AM by leatherface
'Firepower' was good, didn't hear the other Judas Priest albums after that so can't comment. The last Saxon album wasn't bad either. 

Dunno, think this thread is a little light on Black metal albums that are not up to par either. Plenty of those albums I could randomly crap on too.  Ulver: themes from William Blake,  yawn .

Maybe a comment for the 'controversial opinions thread, but the first Deicide crushes any 'evil' black metal album that came after , with dudes in makeup in a forest at night taking selfies.








That's one of my things with black metal, I can't take those panda make-up wearing fellas seriously at all.

They don't look evil or whatever, but they do look like a shower of complete gomies.

A Tout Le Monde has to be skipped or laughed off. It's better than, say, Captive Honour though, it just doesn't have the good sense to be buried deep into the end of the tracklisting but instead farts its long stinky camembert fart just as things are getting going.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 25, 2025, 01:09:26 AMA Tout Le Monde has to be skipped or laughed off. It's better than, say, Captive Honour though, it just doesn't have the good sense to be buried deep into the end of the tracklisting but instead farts its long stinky camembert fart just as things are getting going.
I like it, they went in a commercial direction then which was fashionable at the time. I would be happy if they didn't play it live and stuck to the classic fast stuff

I haven't read it but my friend was saying that Friedman talks about that in his bio, IE that going in a commercial direction was a very deliberate choice. Might have even been imposed on them by the label.

Maiden - Lost interest after dance of death

Opeth - Lost interest after Blackwater Park

Cannibal Corpse - Lost interest after Kill

Nile - up as far as Those whom the Gods detest

Behemoth - went to shite after Evangelion

There's loads more I could list

Quote from: Mooncat on August 25, 2025, 05:26:52 PMI haven't read it but my friend was saying that Friedman talks about that in his bio, IE that going in a commercial direction was a very deliberate choice. Might have even been imposed on them by the label.

Ellefson talked about it very recently in an interview, it was 100% contrived and deliberate. Nothing to do with management or label.

Mustaine himself was already 100% upfront about it in the Behind the Music documentary.

Quote from: General Lee on August 25, 2025, 05:35:28 PMMaiden - Lost interest after dance of death

Opeth - Lost interest after Blackwater Park

Cannibal Corpse - Lost interest after Kill

Nile - up as far as Those whom the Gods detest

Behemoth - went to shite after Evangelion

There's loads more I could list
I am kinda the same with Behemoth, although I enjoyed albums after that. Haven't bothered with the last two albums

Deicide, I more or less clocked out after Stench Of Redemption. Still a band I have to see live though