Couldn't be bothered anymore

[The Heretic]

Gary Glitter

No the thread is bands you can't get into anymore, not performers who can't get into their fans anymore

        

[astfgyl]

Agreed with Katatonia, pretty much the first band that springs to mind here. I was on board up until and including Viva Emptiness but everything since has been a chore.
Mastodon have been hit and miss with me for a while now, I actually didn't mind Hushed and Grim but the prospect of new material doesn't hold much interest for me.
Napalm Death...yeah to an extent but I really enjoyed Throes of Joy...
Nine Inch Nails - have released so much material over the years but nothing of consequence since the Fragile tbh. And that was a long time ago. Some of the eps were ok i suppose but I've lost hope of one last great album.

I'm still hanging on for NIN against all logic

[astfgyl]

Following a band for completeness sake just doesn't make sense to me in general anymore. It really has worn thin, especially for bands who have a "signature" sound.

A band mentioned a few times here already is Paradise Lost. I'm a massive fan of them BRFORE anything resembling a signature sound was a thing with them. It's mind blowing to think how they evolved (for better or worse) between 1990 to 1999 on Lost Paradise to Host. Recent releases are just various shades (pardon the pun) of the same thing.

Likewise the likes of Metallica and Megadeth in the first ten years.

Once a band seems to lock in on a formula, it's very hard to maintain an excitement for what may be about to land.

Granted when a band doesn't stick to a formula, it doesn't always hit the spot with the initial fanbase. Not too many people who were wowed by Gothic, would be fawning over One Second and very few who loved Beneath The Remains will see the value in Roots but at least these bands were artistically exploring new ground at the time.

A band like Overkill or Exodus who rarely deviated from the formula ran thin on interest with me far sooner (in fact its this approach that fucked thwmselves in the late 90s). And do I really need to own all the recent Testament or Clutch albums? Do I fuck.

And to save Burggermeister the bother of typing it, it's bands like Voivod and Sepultura that constantly evolved, not giving a fuck about others that keeps some level of interest these days.

Voivod are a proper example of a band that keep it interesting. They're fucking brilliant.

Here's one that maybe nobody thought of, but Mesghuggah had absolutely nothing to offer after Catch 33, even though it's not even bad since it's just nothing though, not Nothing either though

[ochoill]

Paradise Lost and Katatonia are easily the winners in this category.  A real shame and it isn't even that they are gone bad - just absolutely unremarkable.

Meshuggah are excellent up to and including Obzen but after that have good songs, no good albums.

Enslaved, was just listening to BTL again yesterday after it was mentioned again in the other thread.  An absolutely immaculate album, in the middle of a run of savage releases.  Then around/after Ruun it all sort of lost its vigour.  The proggier albums are good and I put them on here and there but the interest barely lasts a few days.

[astfgyl]

Paradise Lost and Katatonia are easily the winners in this category.  A real shame and it isn't even that they are gone bad - just absolutely unremarkable.

Meshuggah are excellent up to and including Obzen but after that have good songs, no good albums.

Enslaved, was just listening to BTL again yesterday after it was mentioned again in the other thread.  An absolutely immaculate album, in the middle of a run of savage releases.  Then around/after Ruun it all sort of lost its vigour.  The proggier albums are good and I put them on here and there but the interest barely lasts a few days.

How did I not think of Enslaved as well tbf. It absolutely ends at Ruun.

Nothing at all after that

[Bürggermeister]

And to save Burggermeister the bother of typing it, it's bands like Voivod and Sepultura that constantly evolved, not giving a fuck about others that keeps some level of interest these days.

Yeah, spent too much money on shit music over the years, hoping this would be the one where they step out of the rut. I got tired of every album being called a return to form. Eventually the penny dropped. Sometimes there's just no way back once you go shit.

It's easier to list the bands who remained interesting and worthy of effort: Sepultura and Voivod for sure, Living Colour are always worth hearing and I'll always make time for Cynic. Anything with Chris Poland, count me in and I'm there if/when Atheist or Watchtower release something. Anthrax remain interesting to me, even now, though I find the Joey Era II more comfortable background listening than anything relevatory. Killing Joke were amazing to the end, despite being late to that train, picking up every album has been a joy over the last 10 years.

I still love the old stuff from other bands but, generally, 1993 seems to be the cutoff year for 80's bands. If they were going to go shit, they did it by 1993 and everything after is a waste of listening time. There's no redemption from the Sneap sound either. Some bands saved their reputation by splitting up. Kudos to them.

I will always check anything Metallica put out, just because their fall from grace has been the greatest and most fascinating. To go from being that good to being so utterly, hopelessly shit, even on stage, will never stop fascinating me.

[Cailleach]

Metallica
Megadeath
Slayer
Opeth
Rotting Christ
Katatonia
Paradise Lost
Carcass

[The Great Cull]

And the flipside of a band like Voivod constantly evolving is that sometimes they lose me and other times they're amazing. I'd take that experience with a band that can surprise you rather than one that is rock solid in their ability to disappoint and paint by numbers.

[Trev]

Iron Maiden, loved Dance of Death and ploughed on with them despite never really thinking much of anything after, and just completely lost hope at Book of Souls

All the usual 80s thrash suspects, Overkill, Testament, Destruction, Sodom, Exodus...are churning out decent enough stuff but nothing you really need to hear more than once, Death Angel I'd say are the only exception for keeping the quality up

And practically everything Max Cavalera has been involved with since 1996 has been mostly shit despite me constantly hoping for a return to form. Dark Ages is probably the only good album, makes it fairly obvious who the talent was in the classic Seps lineup

[Mooncat]

Phew how many 'classic' bands at all still release worthwhile stuff, never mind great? Not a metal example but Bowie managed it with Blackstar, but that seems the exception. I guess Testament still release some decent stuff here and there?

[Ollkiller]

Ya nearly every band really after a time. I do find it enjoyable when bands can still put a good album out after so long. Say a Deftones or Converge. I wonder what keeps their creative juices flowing.

[StoutAndAle]

Mastodon
Baroness
Queens Of The Stone Age
Torche
Clutch
Pallbearer
King Grizzard & The Lizard Wizard (much like Fuzz - it's too much work to keep up with)

Causa Sui are another one "Euporie Tide" is a masterpiece which blew me away and I was really looking for to the next one,"Return To Sky", but after that I didn't really even look to see if they had another record coming out.

The latest one is Elder - whose  I fucking love but I realised a few weeks ago, after reading a 10-year retrospective about their seminal album "Lore", that "Reflections In A Floating World" is the last album that I was actively interested in hearing and eager for. Worse still - I have bought/pre-ordered a few Elder records after "Reflections..." and never listened to them.

[ochoill]

The latest one is Elder - whose  I fucking love but I realised a few weeks ago, after reading a 10-year retrospective about their seminal album "Lore", that "Reflections In A Floating World" is the last album that I was actively interested in hearing and eager for. Worse still - I have bought/pre-ordered a few Elder records after "Reflections..." and never listened to them.

Same here.  From "Lore" back is almost immaculate, "Reflections..." is great and still gets a go regularly, but everything else is a very weak reiteration of the same idea as that for me.  Some good songs and passages but nothing worth returning to.

[Pagan Saviour]

Phew how many 'classic' bands at all still release worthwhile stuff, never mind great

Immolation whilst not matching their classic material put out really strong records
Gorguts
Judas Priest pulled a classic out of the bag in recent times

[yknaa]

Phew how many 'classic' bands at all still release worthwhile stuff, never mind great? Not a metal example but Bowie managed it with Blackstar, but that seems the exception. I guess Testament still release some decent stuff here and there?

Saxon's later stuff deserves a mention. Its tricky one for bands - criticised for cashing in on constant greatest hits touring or putting out new material - which, lets face it can be pretty average. Classic 80s metal bands aren't going to deviate too far at this stage of the game. I still buy new material from Maiden, Helloween, Saxon, Priest (and KK's Priest), Primal Fear, Scorps etc. Can be hit and miss for sure. Saying that, cds are a lot cheaper now than the 80s so perhaps not the same investment. Wish something could be done to lower vinyl prices though