MegaDave to call it a day

[Anvil]

Maybe he would actually feel he could bring in someone to do the vocals...

[Mentalhealthformetalheads]

Part of me is sad to see Megadeth go, but I doubt he will be capable of making another classic record anymore either

[Necro Red]

Part of me is sad to see Megadeth go, but I doubt he will be capable of making another classic record anymore either

i agree. And the same with Slayer. A world without either band is better than a world where they keep making bland albums for the sake of trying to remain relevant.

[jobrok1]

I prefer bland MegaDave to bland Slayer, though.

[Pagan Saviour]

To be fair Slayer have far less forgettable records. What did Megadeth finish on 17 or so? Most of which are nonsense.

[The Heretic]

Most bands reach a point where they have nothing left creative wise in the bank, Judas Priest, Metallica, Slayer, ACDC, Guns and Roses, Iron Maiden, Rolling Stones etc etc and end up trading on past glories, although most of the bands mentioned can still draw a huge crowd, for those that don't its time to hang up the boots unless you can accept diminishing returns

[jobrok1]

In fairness!
The last two Priest albums have been great, IMO.
But how much of that is down to Falkner's involvement in the writing.

And MegaDave has always had decent hired guns. Even involved in the writing.

All the other bands are still the same core members coming up with the tunes.

[Mooncat]

Most bands reach a point where they have nothing left creative wise in the bank, Judas Priest, Metallica, Slayer, ACDC, Guns and Roses, Iron Maiden, Rolling Stones etc etc and end up trading on past glories, although most of the bands mentioned can still draw a huge crowd, for those that don't its time to hang up the boots unless you can accept diminishing returns

I'm not sure I agree with the concept that creativity is finite; I think it can be indefinite if you remain inspired. With all those bands though I suspect it gets to a point where it's more about keeping the show on the road that being creatively inspired. If you have a very definite sound you're pigeon-holed by, it makes it a lot harder to branch out without tanking your popularity. AC/DC may well wish to release the jazz album they've always aspired to, but they may well also lose their stadium status in doing so.

Aside from the money and status involved, I'm sure a ton of these guys are just complete road dogs by this point. It'd be like Brooks leaving prison and being unable to deal with the outside world in Shawshank Redemption, they maybe just struggle to contemplate a different life so won't want to risk it by diversifying the sound. I'm speculating of course, and there's many exceptions to the rule.

[Necro Red]

Most bands reach a point where they have nothing left creative wise in the bank, Judas Priest, Metallica, Slayer, ACDC, Guns and Roses, Iron Maiden, Rolling Stones etc etc and end up trading on past glories, although most of the bands mentioned can still draw a huge crowd, for those that don't its time to hang up the boots unless you can accept diminishing returns

I'm not sure I agree with the concept that creativity is finite; I think it can be indefinite if you remain inspired. With all those bands though I suspect it gets to a point where it's more about keeping the show on the road that being creatively inspired. If you have a very definite sound you're pigeon-holed by, it makes it a lot harder to branch out without tanking your popularity. AC/DC may well wish to release the jazz album they've always aspired to, but they may well also lose their stadium status in doing so.

Aside from the money and status involved, I'm sure a ton of these guys are just complete road dogs by this point. It'd be like Brooks leaving prison and being unable to deal with the outside world in Shawshank Redemption, they maybe just struggle to contemplate a different life so won't want to risk it by diversifying the sound. I'm speculating of course, and there's many exceptions to the rule.

I'd tend to agree with you. Really though, that's why side projects exist so members can experiment outside their goliath bands without that risk of failure. Most of them have tried other things so yea, I wouldn't say they lack inspiration

[Mooncat]

Most bands reach a point where they have nothing left creative wise in the bank, Judas Priest, Metallica, Slayer, ACDC, Guns and Roses, Iron Maiden, Rolling Stones etc etc and end up trading on past glories, although most of the bands mentioned can still draw a huge crowd, for those that don't its time to hang up the boots unless you can accept diminishing returns

I'm not sure I agree with the concept that creativity is finite; I think it can be indefinite if you remain inspired. With all those bands though I suspect it gets to a point where it's more about keeping the show on the road that being creatively inspired. If you have a very definite sound you're pigeon-holed by, it makes it a lot harder to branch out without tanking your popularity. AC/DC may well wish to release the jazz album they've always aspired to, but they may well also lose their stadium status in doing so.

Aside from the money and status involved, I'm sure a ton of these guys are just complete road dogs by this point. It'd be like Brooks leaving prison and being unable to deal with the outside world in Shawshank Redemption, they maybe just struggle to contemplate a different life so won't want to risk it by diversifying the sound. I'm speculating of course, and there's many exceptions to the rule.

I'd tend to agree with you. Really though, that's why side projects exist so members can experiment outside their goliath bands without that risk of failure. Most of them have tried other things so yea, I wouldn't say they lack inspiration

But imagine if you've evolved musically beyond what your main band plays, either as a listener or a musician. I doubt Mustaine or Hetfield are still listening to the new, cutting edge of metal bands anymore, and probably haven't for years, so it's gonna be difficult to remain inspired in thrash. Hence why we just get weaker and weaker quality copies of their older stuff rather than any development or inspired sounding new music.

[Necro Red]

Most bands reach a point where they have nothing left creative wise in the bank, Judas Priest, Metallica, Slayer, ACDC, Guns and Roses, Iron Maiden, Rolling Stones etc etc and end up trading on past glories, although most of the bands mentioned can still draw a huge crowd, for those that don't its time to hang up the boots unless you can accept diminishing returns

I'm not sure I agree with the concept that creativity is finite; I think it can be indefinite if you remain inspired. With all those bands though I suspect it gets to a point where it's more about keeping the show on the road that being creatively inspired. If you have a very definite sound you're pigeon-holed by, it makes it a lot harder to branch out without tanking your popularity. AC/DC may well wish to release the jazz album they've always aspired to, but they may well also lose their stadium status in doing so.

Aside from the money and status involved, I'm sure a ton of these guys are just complete road dogs by this point. It'd be like Brooks leaving prison and being unable to deal with the outside world in Shawshank Redemption, they maybe just struggle to contemplate a different life so won't want to risk it by diversifying the sound. I'm speculating of course, and there's many exceptions to the rule.

I'd tend to agree with you. Really though, that's why side projects exist so members can experiment outside their goliath bands without that risk of failure. Most of them have tried other things so yea, I wouldn't say they lack inspiration

But imagine if you've evolved musically beyond what your main band plays, either as a listener or a musician. I doubt Mustaine or Hetfield are still listening to the new, cutting edge of metal bands anymore, and probably haven't for years, so it's gonna be difficult to remain inspired in thrash. Hence why we just get weaker and weaker quality copies of their older stuff rather than any development or inspired sounding new music.

yea, to an extent. I still have this hope that Metallica have another classic in them....fat chance of that happening though. Maybe they should be listening to other new bands for inspiration. This new Megadeth doesn't do much for me now. Its grand like, 6 out of 10

[Eoin McLove]

I think I said the same thing before on this thread, but as everyone loves a broken record I'll say it again. I will at least try to rephrase it, how about that!

When a band becomes a brand, when it becomes defined by what came before and can't allow itself to evolve, it is kind of dead in the water. I understand that these dudes are making their living off the band and its legacy etc etc. Fair enough. But that doesn't mean that as a listener we don't reserve the right to hold them to account for mediocrity. Megadeth are simply trying to recapitalise on a sound they developed thirty something years ago (Countdown to Extinction), and we try to find the positive in what is essentially a heartless endeavour.

Mustaine mentioned going solo in future, but you know the new venture will have a name that is glaringly connected to Megadeth- Rusting in Peace or something creatively void like that, just in case anyone forgets that it is in fact THE Dave Mustaine from that band Megadeth who released that album Rust In Peace a hundred years ago... It won't be some new idea that has been haunting him for years that he's finally going to explore. Something honest and exciting. It'll be more Megalight. No doubt they'll even go on tour playing a set comprised of 80% Megadeth tunes with a few beige new ones.

Not sure what my point is other than I find it a bit sad that these people paint themselves so much into a corner that their band becomes like a corpse that is also a life support machine.

Edit. I mean just even look at the artwork for the new album. It looks like it was designed by a committee of fucking oul ones. Just nothing there at all.

[The Butcher]

To be fair Slayer have far less forgettable records. What did Megadeth finish on 17 or so? Most of which are nonsense.

Just looked at the past 5 albums of each band mentioned

Megadeth
Megadeth - Jan 23, 2026
The Sick, the Dying... and the Dead! - Sep 2, 2022
Dystopia - Jan 22, 2016
Super Collider - Jun 4, 2013
Thirteen - Nov 1, 2011

Metallica
72 Seasons - Apr 14, 2023
Hardwired... to Self-Destruct - Nov 18, 2016
Death Magnetic - Sep 12, 2008
St. Anger -Jun 5, 2003
ReLoad- Nov 18, 1997

Slayer
Repentless - Sep 11, 2015
World Painted Blood - Nov 3, 2009
Christ Illusion - Aug 8, 2006
God Hates Us All -Sep 11, 2001
Diabolus in Musica - Jun 9, 1998

If forced somehow at gunpoint - I would be hard pressed picking Megadeth last 5 from that list...as bad as some albums are there! Also goes to prove the point above - once bands become brands - the creative side is no longer the driving force/purpose for them. The nostalgia for the classic stuff is what breeds the morbid curiosity in people when something new from them is released. 

[Bürggermeister]

Disciple is a good song. You know, like, you cant win them all.

[Pagan Saviour]

Most of those Slayer albums bar Repentless which sounds like something Exodus would release contain a few decent tracks. No arguing with Disciple or Point off Diabolus is a belter for example.

Think Metallica got a bit more mileage creatively speaking as they aged naturally during the Load era, I'd have preferred them to travel further on that route but they've done the same as the rest and vainly tried to pretend they're still fuelled up 20 somethings with something to prove.