Ah, it's grand as it is with severely limited involvement from the rest of those cunts. It'd have been shit if they turned down the bass on it.

While it wouldn't have made the album that much better the decision by Judas Priest not to include Thunder Road on Ram It Down and put the Johnny B. Goode cover on instead is a bit of a mindfuck still.

Quote from: Maggot Colony on April 07, 2025, 03:30:49 PMRemoving One would make it a bit leaner.

 

Ah come on. Frayed Ends, To Live Is To Die and Eye Of The Beholder all have more filler material in them. There's aspects of all 3 songs that weren't fully fleshed out. One is a superb tune.

Quote from: Cosmic_Equilibrium on April 08, 2025, 08:23:46 PMWhile it wouldn't have made the album that much better the decision by Judas Priest not to include Thunder Road on Ram It Down and put the Johnny B. Goode cover on instead is a bit of a mindfuck still.

Why is it not even on the Ram it Down reissues :laugh:
Point of fckn entry like

Quote from: The Great Cull on April 08, 2025, 09:13:47 PM
Quote from: Maggot Colony on April 07, 2025, 03:30:49 PMRemoving One would make it a bit leaner.

 

Ah come on. Frayed Ends, To Live Is To Die and Eye Of The Beholder all have more filler material in them. There's aspects of all 3 songs that weren't fully fleshed out. One is a superb tune.

Justice is a weird album. The songs are mostly savage but it's like they were trying to complicate the song structures to show off their chops and ended up confusing things with loads of little cul de sacs. The meat of the songs is great but the choppy stop start bits are annoying.

Quote from: londonleatherboy on April 08, 2025, 09:20:38 PM
Quote from: Cosmic_Equilibrium on April 08, 2025, 08:23:46 PMWhile it wouldn't have made the album that much better the decision by Judas Priest not to include Thunder Road on Ram It Down and put the Johnny B. Goode cover on instead is a bit of a mindfuck still.

Why is it not even on the Ram it Down reissues :laugh:
Point of fckn entry like

The bonustracks on those re-issues are all over the shop.
Made no fucking sense at all.

Quote from: The Great Cull on April 08, 2025, 09:13:47 PM
Quote from: Maggot Colony on April 07, 2025, 03:30:49 PMRemoving One would make it a bit leaner.

 

Ah come on. Frayed Ends, To Live Is To Die and Eye Of The Beholder all have more filler material in them. There's aspects of all 3 songs that weren't fully fleshed out. One is a superb tune.

I think my hatred of the One video is affecting my decision.  :laugh:  It was always fecking on MTV and put me off the song.

Quote from: Eoin McLove on April 08, 2025, 11:08:57 PM
Quote from: The Great Cull on April 08, 2025, 09:13:47 PM
Quote from: Maggot Colony on April 07, 2025, 03:30:49 PMRemoving One would make it a bit leaner.

 

Ah come on. Frayed Ends, To Live Is To Die and Eye Of The Beholder all have more filler material in them. There's aspects of all 3 songs that weren't fully fleshed out. One is a superb tune.

Justice is a weird album. The songs are mostly savage but it's like they were trying to complicate the song structures to show off their chops and ended up confusing things with loads of little cul de sacs. The meat of the songs is great but the choppy stop start bits are annoying.

You've hit the nail on the head. A lot of the songs are too meandering, making the album feel bloated. It's just over 10 minutes longer than Puppets, but feels like a bit of a slog in comparison.

I threw on Countdown To Extinction on the drive to work today and there's an album that could be whittled down to the following:
- Skin O My Teeth
- Symphony Of Destruction
- Architecture Of Aggression
- Countdown To Extinction
- Ashes In Your Mouth

At a push This Was My Life...

I don't think too many people would be looking for Captive Honour or Psychotron in any setlists.

All I'd have from it would be:

Skin O' My Teeth
Symphony Of Destruction
Foreclosure Of A Dream
Ashes In Your Mouth

I've never understood the reverence for that album or Youthanasia, blatant commercial cash grabs both. A mini-album's worth of decent songs between them. Add A Tout Le Monde, Blood Of Heroes and Victory to thise four and there you are.

#25 April 09, 2025, 11:00:58 PM Last Edit: April 09, 2025, 11:02:32 PM by Cosmic_Equilibrium
Youthanasia is Mustaine's dark masterpiece TBH, a deeply personal and very dark record that still holds up today.

On the other hand you could just take Rust In Peace and cut it down to the first two tracks and the last two (don't count Dawn Patrol as a song) and it would be a great EP without all the boring filler in the middle.

Youthanasia is a bag of cold shit. It's a soulless, calculated, relentlessly mid-tempo sell-out.

Rust In Peace's only weak point is Dawn Patrol, otherwise it'd be in the Pick One thread. Mighty stuff, almost from start to finish.

I quite like what Dawn Patrol brings, it's like coming up for air, a brief respite before the full-on conclusion to the album that is RIP/Polaris.

Yup, I've no beef with Dawn Patrol.