I've no interest in ther early black metal stuff,or anything really over the last 10 years.Its their middle period that I love,Satanica,Thelema 6 and Zios are 3 unbelievable albums.They were a serious live force in that period too.

Having said that,I take them for what they are now;entertainment.if they were playing on my doorstep I'd go.

Couldn't stomach another show from them. Into gimmick metal territory.

Quote from: Paul keohane on January 30, 2025, 08:00:49 AMIts their middle period that I love,Satanica,Thelema 6 and Zios are 3 unbelievable albums.They were a serious live force in that period too.

Yeah, was right in the middle of that period they played Whelans, in 2004 or 2005..? And they seem still to get as much grace off the back of that period of killing it both in studio and live as any of the big four, etc., who similarly went on to fall off a cliff in terms of musical quality.

I like these guys seriously catchy music,  really like the Satanist and loved you at your darkest , great live too

They don't play live. It's backing tracks.

Saw them a few times around 04 and 05 and they were savage but never liked them on cd and at this point it's pure panto.

Never got into them
Style over substance
Might try the early albums at some stage though

Anyone know where the room in the video is?

Quote from: Paul keohane on January 30, 2025, 08:00:49 AMI've no interest in ther early black metal stuff,or anything really over the last 10 years.Its their middle period that I love,Satanica,Thelema 6 and Zios are 3 unbelievable albums.They were a serious live force in that period too.

Having said that,I take them for what they are now;entertainment.if they were playing on my doorstep I'd go.

Yah that mid period was when they were at their best, from satanica to demigod. seen them play in nancy spains around 2004 i think and it was great. then seen them headline over at the gates and wolves in the throne room and they were embarrasing... totally lame and weak.

At least spinal tap knew what they were.

This band is now a parody of itself.

Shite.....

Bar the cringeyness of the song..it's the most nothing song I've heard in a while .no riffs , no anything..just plodding nonsense..at least cradle of filth will still bang out an ol riff through all the nonsense

Do they have backing tracks for vocals live?
All these latest albums have that layered vocal thing which has to be hard to reproduce at a concert.
Lots of make up and  wavy hands seems to be the order of the day.
It'll probably sell a load along with the merch.

Quote from: keeper of kalessin on January 30, 2025, 11:30:22 AM
Quote from: Paul keohane on January 30, 2025, 08:00:49 AMI've no interest in ther early black metal stuff,or anything really over the last 10 years.Its their middle period that I love,Satanica,Thelema 6 and Zios are 3 unbelievable albums.They were a serious live force in that period too.

Having said that,I take them for what they are now;entertainment.if they were playing on my doorstep I'd go.

Yah that mid period was when they were at their best, from satanica to demigod. seen them play in nancy spains around 2004 i think and it was great. then seen them headline over at the gates and wolves in the throne room and they were embarrasing... totally lame and weak.
Was at that Nancy's show (was it a few years earlier than 2004?). Was a stormer!

I fired on Grom last night but wasn't in the mood. Might have been a hangover of ill-will from watching The Shit Ov God earlier in the day. Terrible stuff. I will leave the earlier stuff for a while and see if it clicks with me in future as, on paper at least, it ticks the boxes.

Quote from: Blizzard Beast on January 30, 2025, 07:39:22 AMThe "I loved you at your darkest" wasnt a great album title either but a good album.

yea, I really liked that album, but didn't think much of the last album. I think they peaked with Evangellion which is a class album! Pure blastfest it is. I was mad into them around that period too. Apostasy and Demigod were regularly played around then too. The title of the new album is just silly now, like zero thought put into it. As some said above nu metal, does kinda have that vibe. Still, a cool band live.

Quote from: The Ancient Ones on January 30, 2025, 08:59:27 PMWas at that Nancy's show (was it a few years earlier than 2004?). Was a stormer!

Might have been January of 05. I saw them in Whelans then on the Demigod tour. That's the only time I have seen a full set from them. Been at festivals and stuff since then that they played but wasn't bothered. Got a ticket to the Olympia show a few years ago just to see Carcass. Would have hung around to at least give Behemoth a chance but couldn't sit through an Arch Enemy set.

Even the early Behemoth stuff up to and including Demigod isn't that good it's just that it's better than the shite they have been putting out for the last 20 years. Negral is a gimp he is like one of those reality TV stars.

I sold him a bootleg Katharsis shirt on eBay 2 or 3 years ago and the prick didn't even leave me any feedback  :laugh: