First trickle of generative AI music videos

[Bürggermeister]

I think limited availability will be forced upon us all as I reckon the hosting and streaming platforms are about to enter a world of unlimited shit. They will have to put a cap on what they accept and what they continue to host. There is a finite amount of storage space, there is an infinite amount of potential "content" from this. I think subscriptions might go both ways, that there will be a fee to get on and a fee to stay on streaming services, if you don't have enough likes, clicks or whatever. It can't be an open door like it is now. This has to have an effect on underground/niche music and its general availability. It will be in a competition for space with stuff programmed specifically to appeal to the mainstream streaming audiences, stuff where the knowledge of armies of psychologists employed by the tech firms to understand human engagement is already part of the data bank used by AI to generate this shit.

How that will change band promotion, who knows, will bands pay regular fees to be one of lost billions on youtube or spotify? I'd say it's unlikely. One thing I would say is quite certain, if you think there's already too much new music out there, you had better take a seat.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I was just about to raise the question of storage space/power usage as a question for the more tech-savvy among ye. As an extreme eventuality, maybe some global CT-esque autocrat will one day simply pull the plug on cloud storage, remote GPU processing, etc.! 

 

[Bürggermeister]

😂 Forever known as getting CT'd

Everything in cloud, everything on the streaming platforms, costs money to host and be ready to be retrieved and played in an instant. It costs money to play anything, costs money to transfer data up and down. It costs money to host something which will never be played. It costs more than you think and I know a few businesses who are now backpedalling out of Cloud now that they've had a taste of how much it costs. There will have to be a content cull, just to keep financially viable. The reason I reckon there will be an avalanche of AI content is because of how those platforms pay out. It's all plays, whether there was a human to see the ads or not. Auto-generated AI content ruthlessly aimed at Lowest Common Denominator mongs (but with a safety-net of farms of virtual viewers clicking on that content) is what I'd be doing right now if I could figure out how to do it. If I've thought of it then lots of more skilled cunts have thought of it too 😂

[Mooncat]

I think limited availability will be forced upon us all as I reckon the hosting and streaming platforms are about to enter a world of unlimited shit. They will have to put a cap on what they accept and what they continue to host. There is a finite amount of storage space, there is an infinite amount of potential "content" from this. I think subscriptions might go both ways, that there will be a fee to get on and a fee to stay on streaming services, if you don't have enough likes, clicks or whatever. It can't be an open door like it is now. This has to have an effect on underground/niche music and its general availability. It will be in a competition for space with stuff programmed specifically to appeal to the mainstream streaming audiences, stuff where the knowledge of armies of psychologists employed by the tech firms to understand human engagement is already part of the data bank used by AI to generate this shit.

How that will change band promotion, who knows, will bands pay regular fees to be one of lost billions on youtube or spotify? I'd say it's unlikely. One thing I would say is quite certain, if you think there's already too much new music out there, you had better take a seat.

Yeah it definitely feels like there's an expiry date before something's gotta give. Spotify's business model has always been extremely dodgy anyway, but if we get to a point of the labels starting their own streaming services and hauling everything off other sites it's hard to imagine that won't kill music streaming fairly quickly. Will people be happy to subscribe to several music streaming services for music in the same way they do for TV? Another streaming industry that's floundering as well.

I would love the next phase of all this to have someone find a way to give music and film value again...

EDIT: The pessimist in me knows where this goes next, more ads and/or in-app payments. Prime adding ads to their current paid model (rather than introducing it as a cheaper tier) and then forcing you to pay extra for no ads was a warning shot. Also read about BMW having unlockable features in their cars that you had to pay a subscription to unlock, such as heated seats and steering wheels. They dropped it after public outcry but the intent and the method is there. All this gets a lot worse before it gets better...

[astfgyl]

As much as I knew it was coming, it's still miserable to see it arrive. 

Ah well, it won't stop people picking up instruments and learning them and having bands that play gigs.

Or will it?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

D'y know, on that, was chatting with herself during a road trip over the weekend, about tribute bands, etc. I started thinking about how, in our lifetimes, we'll almost certainly see tribute bands to huge acts of which there are no surviving members. Pink Floyd were the ones I had in mind. This got me thinking about how sometimes you see concerts advertised where it'll be Bach or Beethoven, etc., music played on instruments from their day. And I was thinking, wow, hundred years, maybe two, there might be concerts in tribute to Pink Floyd or The Beatles advertised as being played on "original instruments", i.e. in a society where electric guitars, etc., only exist for specialists. I wasn't even stoned at the time! But later, when I was, got some nice trippy future-projecting vertigo out of it 

[astfgyl]

I'll be like Will smith's character in I, Robot sooner than I thought! It's pretty bleak to think of for a luddite such as myself but I'm sure the kids will fit right in.

[Ducky]

That sounds like a tasteful way to enjoy the music after they've passed. Just keep that hologram shit away.

[Carnage]

Years since I watched a music video, I'm surprised that they're still a thing. On the surface, this doesn't interest me at all but the implication that the technology will extend to musical composition is indeed disturbing.

[John Kimble]

https://metalinjection.net/news/pestilence-defends-their-ai-album-cover-is-wrong?fbclid=IwAR1Gq05TIxI96E3v239c6g83bZ-XoLFRtXtvFtSJlDB2PmBAxcCLhkaWsFw

On a related note. I don't have any particularly strong feelings about the artwork either way, it's nothing amazing but certainly there has been worse stuff over the years. In particular I'm thinking of the late 90's emergence of that Dave McKean style of artwork which seemed to be everywhere at the time.

[Bürggermeister]

'Tallica could've AI'd Newsted to the kerb had this come sooner

https://techxplore.com/news/2024-03-ai-bassist-sony-vision-paradigm.html

[astfgyl]

It's like watching a car crash in slow motion

[The Butcher]

'Tallica could've AI'd Newsted to the kerb had this come sooner

https://techxplore.com/news/2024-03-ai-bassist-sony-vision-paradigm.html

Will the likes of this go the way of current AI art generation - become an identifiable style that becomes almost immediately stale and starkly obvious to us mere plebs?

[astfgyl]

The only ai stuff that ever had anything going for it was Google dreaming.

That was truly the stuff of nightmares.

Haunts me to this day

[Bürggermeister]

'Tallica could've AI'd Newsted to the kerb had this come sooner

https://techxplore.com/news/2024-03-ai-bassist-sony-vision-paradigm.html

Will the likes of this go the way of current AI art generation - become an identifiable style that becomes almost immediately stale and starkly obvious to us mere plebs?

It's at an embryonic stage, just like the art. It will learn and it will evolve. It'll happen a lot more rapidly than any of us can visualise, I would inagine.