I'm reading Andy Lee's autobiography "Fighter". Very good book.
I've also ordered "Last Exit to Brooklyn". Read this years ago, great book but it literally fell apart in my hands.

I'm wading through the Dune trilogy. I struggled a bit to get to grips with the first, having to read some parts 2 and 3 times to get the hang of it, but around 150 pages in, it clicked nicely and I've been devouring it since. On Children of Dune now about halfway through and it's class. Dune Messiah was also brilliant. I can already see myself taking a second read of these.

Quote from: astfgyl on July 08, 2020, 09:38:07 PM
I'm wading through the Dune trilogy. I struggled a bit to get to grips with the first, having to read some parts 2 and 3 times to get the hang of it, but around 150 pages in, it clicked nicely and I've been devouring it since. On Children of Dune now about halfway through and it's class. Dune Messiah was also brilliant. I can already see myself taking a second read of these.

there's 2347 tv films or series of Dune so you can follow up that stuff for days.

I've only seen the Lynch Movie, and having not read any of the books at the time, it was visual double dutch but I can understand why now.

its not userfriendly , but then scifi is often a bit inelegant- you know yourself, great concepts, clunky prose

Quote from: astfgyl on July 08, 2020, 09:38:07 PM
I'm wading through the Dune trilogy.

There are six books. Was it originally a trilogy, and then followed up by another trilogy?

I'm about 80 pages into Children Of Dune, got distracted a couple of weeks ago and haven't gotten back to it since.

I actually don't know without looking it up, I just bought the Dune Trilogy on Amazon and that's as far as I know. Be grand if there are another three to look forward to after this one, as long as the quality stays up

There's 8 or 9 in the series, but Frank Herbert's son wrote the last couple so there's a noticeable difference in style.

Did he do the first 6 himself? I'm not surprised someone couldn't imitate the style properly, there's some really great mental flexing going on there in places. Some of the passages are utterly brilliant and very thought-provoking

Quote from: astfgyl on July 08, 2020, 10:11:37 PM
Did he do the first 6 himself? I'm not surprised someone couldn't imitate the style properly, there's some really great mental flexing going on there in places. Some of the passages are utterly brilliant and very thought-provoking

arakis is where we live btw

Ya, he died before he finished the series but his son used outlines and had discussions about the direction. It's very deep alright but the son's ones are much lighter, for good or ill....

Mugz, either take significantly more or perhaps less drugs.

Quote from: Emphyrio on July 08, 2020, 10:22:59 PM
Mugz, either take significantly more or perhaps less drugs.

well I mean Dune is clearly allegorical, whether it's just scifi Marxism, or a simple revelation about corporation Earth, I couldn't say

Quote from: mugz on July 08, 2020, 10:20:21 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on July 08, 2020, 10:11:37 PM
Did he do the first 6 himself? I'm not surprised someone couldn't imitate the style properly, there's some really great mental flexing going on there in places. Some of the passages are utterly brilliant and very thought-provoking

arakis is where we live btw

Yeah I copped it was analogous very early in the book

Quote from: Emphyrio on July 08, 2020, 10:22:15 PM
Ya, he died before he finished the series but his son used outlines and had discussions about the direction. It's very deep alright but the son's ones are much lighter, for good or ill....

Fuck it, if I get the first 6 in to me, I won't be able to resist going on I always want to know what happens next.

Actually in general if I like a book, it always kills me to get to the end. I always think, but where did it end up after that fuck sake. When they go off into the sunset I want to know what is going on in the sunset. Even ones with a proper final ending I want to know what happened next in that universe even if the protagonists are well finished off.

Quote from: astfgyl on July 08, 2020, 10:27:38 PM
Quote from: mugz on July 08, 2020, 10:20:21 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on July 08, 2020, 10:11:37 PM
Did he do the first 6 himself? I'm not surprised someone couldn't imitate the style properly, there's some really great mental flexing going on there in places. Some of the passages are utterly brilliant and very thought-provoking

arakis is where we live btw

Yeah I copped it was analogous very early in the book

Quote from: Emphyrio on July 08, 2020, 10:22:15 PM
Ya, he died before he finished the series but his son used outlines and had discussions about the direction. It's very deep alright but the son's ones are much lighter, for good or ill....

Fuck it, if I get the first 6 in to me, I won't be able to resist going on I always want to know what happens next.

Actually in general if I like a book, it always kills me to get to the end. I always think, but where did it end up after that fuck sake. When they go off into the sunset I want to know what is going on in the sunset. Even ones with a proper final ending I want to know what happened next in that universe even if the protagonists are well finished off.

it's always the first half of a book that's the best, it seems almost impossible to make an ending match the concepts and small implications of a narrative when it's just starting out.

what do you think will happen to Emphyrio when he discovers basically ALL books and films and music are partly distractions, partly a means for reflection, and partly ways of telling you where you live? there's almost no way in which anything couldn't be allegorical really.