Yeah, I gather this latest Bond film (if it's ever released) sees the position/number being handed over, as opposed to the character, at least that's what's been hinted. Appeases both sides of the debate, I suppose.

I really enjoyed Casino Royale and Skyfall, Quantum was better that its reputation suggests but Spectre was a bag of shite. Utterly forgettable.

Idris elba or Gabriel Macht would make good bonds. Wasn't idris hinted at playing bond at some stage?

Idris de man. I'm not a fan of the franchise so I honestly don't give a fuck who comes in. It's good mindless entertainment and as long as the action sequences and stunts are full throttle, who is actually delivering them is almost secondary.

Daniel Craig has a lovely pout, leave him alone.

Ya, Snowtown is great. Must rewatch it.

Been a while since I saw Nil By Mouth as well.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 09, 2021, 02:06:56 PM
They were going to have a black, and female I think, 007, as opposed to Bond. This nuance seemed to escape everyone shouting about it.

Ok but wouldn't that be 008 or some other number, like Sean Bean was 006, rather than rebooting the 007? The talk was of 007 but as a woman or whatever, and were it to happen they would have been replacing Bond as he is the only 007. That bit of nuance seems to have escaped those taking the moral high ground over the tokenism that would be replacing Bond with a black female.

I watched Joker this evening. What a bleak experience. Excellent stuff.

Ya, it's class. Watch The King of Comedy asap. One of De Niro's best performances and where the Joker takes more or less all it's cues from.

I don't think I've seen that,  actually.

Only saw it last year myself.

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Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 09, 2021, 02:06:56 PM
They were going to have a black, and female I think, 007, as opposed to Bond. This nuance seemed to escape everyone shouting about it.

Ok but wouldn't that be 008 or some other number, like Sean Bean was 006, rather than rebooting the 007? The talk was of 007 but as a woman or whatever, and were it to happen they would have been replacing Bond as he is the only 007. That bit of nuance seems to have escaped those taking the moral high ground over the tokenism that would be replacing Bond with a black female.

I read somewhere that there was precedent, and that in one of the books - don't know if new or old - Bond gets the 007 moniker after the previous "holder" is killed in action, and in other books similar things supposedly happen with other 00 agents.

The King of Comedy is great. I also only saw it for the first time after seeing Joker, and it's fairly odd, to be honest, the extent to which it borrows. Glad to have seen them in that order though, as I thought Joker was excellent and maybe I would have been a bit less impressed otherwise.

King of Comedy is brilliant and has just as good moments as Taxi Driver. It's a must from me too.

It's fantastic, and the only time Jerry Lewis and Sandra Bernhard have been watchable. Hard to believe it's nearly 40 years old.

King of Comedy is absolute gold!

Just rewatched Withnail and I...such a classic! "We want the finest wines available to humanity. And we want them here, and we want them now!"

I called to a house in the middle of the backarse of Mayo one morning after taking a wrong turn leaving a session trying to get back into Ballina town, called to a house and said I'd gone on holiday by mistake and could they call me a taxi. They did.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 12, 2021, 12:07:02 AM
Quote from: astfgyl on June 09, 2021, 08:49:36 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 09, 2021, 02:06:56 PM
They were going to have a black, and female I think, 007, as opposed to Bond. This nuance seemed to escape everyone shouting about it.

Ok but wouldn't that be 008 or some other number, like Sean Bean was 006, rather than rebooting the 007? The talk was of 007 but as a woman or whatever, and were it to happen they would have been replacing Bond as he is the only 007. That bit of nuance seems to have escaped those taking the moral high ground over the tokenism that would be replacing Bond with a black female.

I read somewhere that there was precedent, and that in one of the books - don't know if new or old - Bond gets the 007 moniker after the previous "holder" is killed in action, and in other books similar things supposedly happen with other 00 agents.

The King of Comedy is great. I also only saw it for the first time after seeing Joker, and it's fairly odd, to be honest, the extent to which it borrows. Glad to have seen them in that order though, as I thought Joker was excellent and maybe I would have been a bit less impressed otherwise.

Went on a quick fact finding mission about the 007 thing and it seems that in the Fleming stories Bond is the only 007, but then found this "In the John Gardner novels, 007 is the last remaining active 00-agent, the section itself having been dissolved by the 1980s; Raymond Benson later contradicted this in his novels. Bond was initially offered the title of 009, but out of respect to his personal friend the previous 007, he asked for his number instead."

So to be honest it's all a bit too nuanced for my liking but you are right as the story goes nowadays.

This as well: https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a34585204/lashana-lynch-new-007-james-bond-no-time-to-die/ tells us that Bond is no longer the only 007.

But he will always be the only 007 for me :(