The Tube.

[Carnage]

Has anyone both watched it and read the book? I've done neither but I intend to do both, just wondering how they compare.

[Emphyrio]

Just finished When They See Us, depicting the case of the Central Park 5. I'm vaguely familiar with the case as there's already been a series/movie/documentary about it but I never got around to watching them. This is a 4 part series, and it's got a solid cast and it's done really well. Makes for some fairly miserable viewing but it's well worth a watch. I'll stick with something a bit more mindless tonight.

[Carnage]

I thought that was a documentary, I've had it on my list for a while now.

[Emphyrio]

Dramatisation but very well done.

[Caomhaoin]

It was good alright. Auld Donald didn't come out of it looking great.

[Eoin McLove]

Channel 4 showed Spaced Season 1 in total last night,  which I recorded.  Haven't seen it in ten years.  Such a brilliant show.

[Carnage]

Loved that programme. The boxset is worth picking up, some good documentary stuff, commentaries, trivia tracks, etc.

[Emphyrio]

Fuckin great show.

[Ollkiller]

Aye. Fucking amazing show. I was 19 when it came out. Everyone was into it. The tyres episode is the best thing ever. When he starts raving at the traffic lights 🤣😂🤣

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Watched the first 8 episodes of the last dance. Get's a little confusing at times with a lot of time line jumping but it's really good. I was surprised at so many people saying it shows him to be an asshole, rather than it showing why he was so hard on everyone else. Worth a watch and has some great parts.

Starting episode 1 of the last ride, documentary about the undertaker thats just started (around the same time and similarly titled name *cough*)

[Ollkiller]

Love The Last Dance. Savage footage and the Rodman episode is deadly. These people who say Jordan comes across as an asshole probably never won anything at a team sport. As he said he never asked anything of his team mates he wouldn't do himself. Born winner.

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Love The Last Dance. Savage footage and the Rodman episode is deadly. These people who say Jordan comes across as an asshole probably never won anything at a team sport. As he said he never asked anything of his team mates he wouldn't do himself. Born winner.

Yup, it really resonated with me a lot how you can be perceived as an asshole for trying to drive people to better themselves and the group as a whole.
The part where he breaks up saying it had a big impact, despite the image and what he says you can tell that view people have of him eats at him still. People just can't understand that mindset , focus etc and it can be very frustrating at any level.

[Pedrito]

I didn't even think anything about him being an asshole until I read reviews and comments online. It really goes to show just how envious people are of a person's success. Now maybe we aren't being shown the whole negative side of the man, but it wouldn't shock me at all that a sportsman who got to the top of his game was hard as steel and a real prick too. Actually I'd be shocked if he wasn't.

A great watch, he was an unbelievable athlete and personality and deserves all the cigars and whiskeys he wants. The drive he had was something else to behold, and in an age when absolute toss is held up for kids as an example, it would be great to have a lad like him around.

Funny, on that last thought, I used to think Ronaldo was an arrogant twat, but seeing him play in Madrid and seeing how he conducts himself etc, it completely changed my mind avout him. A lot of the negative stuff comes from pure envy. If a lad works his arse off for something, then you have to admire him for it, regardless of all the gossipy shite that people go on with.

Anyway, Last Dance: class

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Just finished S3 of Westworld. Some really great ideas, but they didn't really manage to maintain the cerebral dimension that got me hooked at all. Totally different feel to the first two seasons; far more like standard sci-fi action, even though in the concepts and context there was room for a lot more depth.

[Emphyrio]

It finished well but I didn't enjoy the majority of it.

Got about 3 eps into the latest season of Bosch. I've found that's gone really stale. Haven't been really impressed since maybe S3. Think I'm done with it.

Carnival Row - very few shows manage to pull off fantasy. The first coupla eps were defo style over substance but, a bit like Preacher, it's doing just about enough that I'll hang on in the hopes of pay off by the end of the 8eps. Jared Harris is underutilised. Cara DeLavigne is, I think, supposed to have an English accent but she sounds more Irish than the Irish themselves. She's tidy so she's partially helping.

Zerozerozero - I was hoping this would fill my Narcos vacuum. It's Amazon so it looks very good, it's a fairly sprawling story but a coupla eps in, and well, it's no Narcos.