The Tube.

[Carnage]

Ah, it was. Stephen Ambrose I was thinking of, wrote Band Of Brothers. Dean Ambrose is a WWF wrestler!

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Thanks for the info Stout! Yeah, I'm in the middle (hopefully coming to the end) of some work centered around the Reconstruction Era and Gilded Age periods of US history that Deadwood is set in. I'm mainly looking at Chicago, but the whole more general phenomenon of (intentionally or unintentionally) "experimental" communities is central to it too, so it's been the perfect time to finally watch the series... all the more so that it's based in history itself, as I now realize!

[StoutAndAle]

Thanks for the info Stout! Yeah, I'm in the middle (hopefully coming to the end) of some work centered around the Reconstruction Era and Gilded Age periods of US history that Deadwood is set in. I'm mainly looking at Chicago, but the whole more general phenomenon of (intentionally or unintentionally) "experimental" communities is central to it too, so it's been the perfect time to finally watch the series... all the more so that it's based in history itself, as I now realize!

Chicago is my favourite place in the US. Been there a ton.

If you're in the mood for reading about the city, its formation etc. then I can highly recommend;

"Chicago - A Biography" - Dominic A. Pacyga
"City of Big Shoulders" - Robert Spinney
 

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Cool, nice one man    The ones I've drawn most from so far are 'Urban Disorder and the Shape of Belief' and 'The Pullman Strike and the Crisis of the 1890s', on top of more specific stuff detailing Jane Addams' and John Dewey's activities in the city.

In terms of being limited for reading time, which of the two you mentioned would you recommend most if I tell you what I'm interested in is Chicago n the midst of its period of fastest expansion as a kind of sociological petri dish..?

Edit: Sorry, maybe you can DM me a reply instead of hijacking this thread. In any case, now ye see the reason I almost never post in the Books thread; cos I only have time to read work-related stuff of fairly limited appeal

[CorkonianHunger]

I am reading a very light book called "The Real Deadwood" by John Ames. Cheap and chearful gift and not heavy, just goes through the show and the real history in parallels. Good introductory stuff.

[Carnage]

If you're interested in 19th century Chicago I'd recommend The Devil In The White City by Erik Larson. It's set around the preparation for, and duration of, the 1893 World's Fair. Two narratives - one follows the lead architect as he puts the whole thing together, the other follows HH Holmes, a serial killer ot the time as he builds a hotel with hidden rooms and death chambers for his victims. The serial killer element is a bit flat but the behind the scenes element of the fair's organisation is fascinating. Plenty of insight into the class system too.

https://eriklarsonbooks.com/book/the-devil-in-the-white-city/

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Quality, so it's true crime..? Sounds like it could be a good one for me; def interested in the World's Fair (and the ultimate destruction in flames of the site a couple years later during strike action!)

[101_North]

Just saw the trailer for the new Frasier reboot. In a minute and 30 seconds it managed to confirm what a terrible idea it is!

[StoutAndAle]

"The Devil in White City" is a class book.

Did they make a TV show out of it too?

There was talk of it.

[StoutAndAle]

Quality, so it's true crime..? Sounds like it could be a good one for me; def interested in the World's Fair (and the ultimate destruction in flames of the site a couple years later during strike action!)

It's a non-fiction book but feels like a novel.

White City would be a trip to see. If I had a time machine...

There's a few bits left - The Art Institute is still there. And another building.

[Carnage]

"The Devil in White City" is a class book.

Did they make a TV show out of it too?

There was talk of it.

There was talk of a fillum with DiCaprio playing Holmes a while back, that fizzled out. There's a series in the works alright, with Keanu Reeves as Burnham I think. Haven't heard much about it for a while, I think it was in pre-production when Covid hit.

Edit: Just had a look there, the series fell apart too so it's back in limbo.

[The Heretic]

Just saw the trailer for the new Frasier reboot. In a minute and 30 seconds it managed to confirm what a terrible idea it is!

I'm guessing the proposed new fawlty towers will be even worse...

[OpenSores]

The Devil in a White City is a fantastic read. One of my top ten actually.

[mickO)))]

Just saw the trailer for the new Frasier reboot. In a minute and 30 seconds it managed to confirm what a terrible idea it is!

Just watched it looks like the typical shitty modern style of comedy. No sign of Niles in it either.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Finished up The Continental last night. Overall can at least say it's worth a gawk, though not by any stretch amazing.