Bell's end?

[Caomhaoin]

Same as Paul, they were a cool band initially but they went to absolute pot after 'Obsolete'.

Also, I burst out laughing at that bit in the blurb 'depraved deceit'🤣🤣🤣🤣 Must have been a lyric he wrote in his cóipleabhar years ago but never got a chance to use it.

'Depraved Deceit'. Chalk it down, ya

[astfgyl]

Same as Paul, they were a cool band initially but they went to absolute pot after 'Obsolete'.

Also, I burst out laughing at that bit in the blurb 'depraved deceit'🤣🤣🤣🤣 Must have been a lyric he wrote in his cóipleabhar years ago but never got a chance to use it.

'Depraved Deceit'. Chalk it down, ya

One for the lyric video! Mechanize was still decent last time I listened to it, but utterly alone in that respect over the last few albums. Gonna throw it on now actually.. Edit, yeah it's ripping.

[Trev]

Same as Paul, they were a cool band initially but they went to absolute pot after 'Obsolete'.

Also, I burst out laughing at that bit in the blurb 'depraved deceit'🤣🤣🤣🤣 Must have been a lyric he wrote in his cóipleabhar years ago but never got a chance to use it.

'Depraved Deceit'. Chalk it down, ya

One for the lyric video! Mechanize was still decent last time I listened to it, but utterly alone in that respect over the last few albums. Gonna throw it on now actually.. Edit, yeah it's ripping.

Ah Genexus was decent too, but it was just trying to be a clone of Mechanize. Could switch a load of songs between the two albums and I probably wouldn't even notice

[astfgyl]

Gonna be honest here and say I can't remember a note off Genexus

[Carnage]

I can say that about all of the post-Archetype albums. All I remember about Transgression is that it was fucking awful, but the next three just blended into one and left no impression whatsoever.

[Blackout]

Loved Archetype and Demanufacture and never really got into any other of their albums bar a few tracks. Also the demolition racer demos are killer (has my favourite version of "will there never be an end"

https://youtu.be/QVzVIgyrT_s ).

[Necro Red]

Was a big fan boy in my youth. Demanufacture is still one of my all time favourite albums and it was great to see it played live in its entirety a few years back. I thought Mechanize was a real return to form, but the last album I found a bit bland and have lost interest. Shame to see how childish "professional" musicians can be and the example they set.

[Pagan Saviour]

Well here we are - Dino will announce the worst kept secret in metal later by revealing the new vocalist. Seems to be a lad called Milo from Italy, he had a rake of covers done which were pulled from all his social media channels last year.

The band have been pretty consistent, I've enjoyed everything from Mechanize onwards but I do think this is the wrong choice, I watched a few of the clips before they were pulled and there's a bit of a Euro Lacuna Coil type vibe from the vocals that makes the whole thing go into cringe territory. We'll see now when the new track goes up...

[Pagan Saviour]

Got ahead of myself, the announcement is Tuesday. Still, point stands Fear Factory without Burton won't really be Fear Factory - even though his capabilities are on the decline.

[astfgyl]

Got ahead of myself, the announcement is Tuesday. Still, point stands Fear Factory without Burton won't really be Fear Factory - even though his capabilities are on the decline.

Will they pull a sepultura I wonder and make rakes of sort of ok albums that no-one listens to after the first month? Oh wait, too late!!

If there's an album I'll likely give it at least one chance.

Now off to listen to mechanize with me

[Anton Arcane]

I don't think it'll be a Sepultura situation where they cling to the wrong choice and let the ship sink out of stubborness. I can see it being a revolving door for vocalists now in Fear Factory. There'll be a different singer every time it suits Dino.

[Pagan Saviour]

Think the Sepultura comparisons are slightly unfair- I think they've remained credible without releasing any classics post Max's departure. In fact they've probably done the right thing given the state of any of the footage of any of Max's live work recently.

Just get the impression Dino wants to run the operation for peanuts, in fact Gene Hoglan stated as much in an interview after quitting just after Mechanize.

[Carnage]

Asesino and Divine Heresy were both dogshit, and now that Dino has complete control, FF will inevitably go the same way. The last album was his (post Bell) re-edited version of its original form and was instantly forgettable, that's the shape of things to come for FF. Not that they hadn't been coasting anyway, the last one that stood out for me was Archetype but at least Bell's vocals were there, and they stood out.

[Anton Arcane]

I actually had a funny one a few months ago where a former session drummer for Fear Factory messaged me on Facebook asking for contact info for Stereo Nasty's ex vocalist. Obviously it was for something else but for a second there I thought Dino must be really searching high and low.

[Thorn]

 Was looking to see who to credit with the snazzy thread title, Juggz, where did he get to?