The Donald vs Big Tech

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

A propaganda war is in full swing, don't stay naïve to it. And just to let you know I'm aware of both sides of it, here's the US Embassy in Kiev the other day apparently goading Moscow. The "subtle" art of dip-shit-lomacy.
https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1496115593149358081

[Caomhaoin]

So what's his point then, in your view?

[Ollkiller]

Gazprom and the largest 2 banks are down between 35 and 50 percent in value since this morning. Russian stocks being dumped everywhere. So the sanctions should be directed to pummel the Russian economy. And bring a trade ban with Russia. Won't happen though, they don't have the balls to do it.

[Caomhaoin]

All made possible because the dollar is the global reserve currency. China will offer itself as a haven for Russia  it this proliferates, and gleefully so.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

So what's his point then, in your view?

At the very least, his point can be summed up by "better to be a Russian than a Democrat." To what extent there may or may not be direct or indirect collusion going on with Moscow is anyone's guess, but given modern US history, making Russia seem less dangerous to American citizens than Democrats is a political nuclear weapon. And anything and everything is apparently allowed in order to communicate that message, including just making stuff up about a sovereign democracy, like that it's not one and is led by a, quote, "tyrant."

See, it's not just saying, "this is their thing, leave them to it." It's also pointedly directing discourse away from all of the now decades long narrative about spreading and protecting democracy overseas, which used to be as much a Republican as a Democrat slogan. By lying about the Ukraine not being a democracy, well, now we don't have to protect them against an autocratic neighbour. But if they are a democracy, then it just doesn't make sense that "we" (the US) wouldn't want to protect them.

Tucker Carlson, Fox News, Donald Trump, and the entire element of the Republican party who think like them, morally identify more with Putin's Russia than they do with Biden's USA. And they want to get the entire working class, who they couldn't actually give a shit about, on their side against the Democrats, even if that means perverting the very same discourse that was used to get the very same demographic on board for wars in the recent past. And nobody is loving all of this more than Putin himself, naturally. Will he be willing to compensate such services? As I said above, it's anyone's guess as to whether that has already happened or may yet happen. But he's certainly being well served by them, even if only as a collateral effect of an internal US conservative versus liberals culture war. I think it would be naïve to presume that's the case, but I've no evidence to say it definitely isn't either.

[astfgyl]

Yup there's nothing that can't be tainted by the American-style left/right politics. Regarding the Ukranian situation in itself I haven't a clue but I bet the misinformation from all sides will be something to behold the longer it goes on. That part will be interesting in itself.

Couldn't keep into the Trump thread without a nod to fake news.

[Ollkiller]

Currently there is an anti war March in support of Ukraine in Putin's home town of St. Petersburg. All over Twitter. Will Putin crack down hard or could this actually be the beginning of a backlash from within.

[Kurt Cocaine]

"Covid's over. What'll we do next to fuck with the masses heads? Oh yes.... here ya go..." 

[astfgyl]

So Hunter Biden's laptop was real now.

[Mower Liberation Front]

Twitter bans right wingers.  The blue tick crew: "It's a private company, freedom of speech rules don't apply to it. It can do what it wants!"

Elon Musk buys 10% of it's stock. The blue tick crew: "He's threatening our freedom of speech!  This should not happen!"


Leading the charge against Musk? The Washington Post. Owned by Bezos.

[Caomhaoin]

And the New York Times, which sends articles to the White House for approval before release.

[astfgyl]

A propaganda war is in full swing, don't stay naïve to it. And just to let you know I'm aware of both sides of it, here's the US Embassy in Kiev the other day apparently goading Moscow. The "subtle" art of dip-shit-lomacy.
https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1496115593149358081

Wow, it's like something the soccer clubs would do before a champions league game.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

So, looks like Musk owns Twitter now.

[Ollkiller]

So, looks like Musk owns Twitter now.

Jaysus. 43 billion for the cesspit of humanity. Sounds about right.

[Caomhaoin]

Trump will be back within the fortnight