Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 16, 2021, 08:11:27 PM
They made a lot of shareholders  very happy in that time, as they did in Iraq. That's the lesson they've learnt, and the game they've perfected.

Aye. Invent the war. Pummel with bombs. Make all the money rebuilding and then fuck off. I just saw one of those videos from the airport. Horrific. To be that desperate to get out.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 16, 2021, 03:28:53 PM

Just have a look at some of the quote retweets of it from the last 24 hours. One from Don Jr. for example:
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1427090284626722821

Sure, what's happening now in Afghanistan is the result of the two minutes it took to post a tweet a couple of months ago. Misdirection, pure and simple.

And just in case it needs to be reminded, Trump was the one promising the earlier withdrawal from Afghanistan during the campaign trail. Think Republicans would have made sure everything was fine and dandy before leaving? Nah.

I've no doubt that the foolish tweet is being used by conservatives for their own means. It doesn't remove the foolishness from the tweet itself regardless of the propaganda plays (and obviously you see those plays as way more important and that's a very fair point). I see the the GOP removed the page from its website praising Trump's plans to exit Afghanistan. I can fully departmentalise all the actors at play here and I'm not swayed by democrats/republicans nonsense as Afghanistan was doomed to fail, Americans didn't bother to learn any lessons from Soviet Russia, maybe the military is not the best vehicle for "nation building".

I was hoping for some modern day Marshall Plans during those 20 years for some sort of different take but it never happened...I guess the US thought all it needed was a little more time for the magic democracy fairies to sprinkle more dust among all the cultural and religious factions.


Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 16, 2021, 08:11:27 PM
They made a lot of shareholders  very happy in that time, as they did in Iraq. That's the lesson they've learnt, and the game they've perfected.

Yep that's it in a nutshell and it's fucking sick.

Quote from: Ollkiller on August 16, 2021, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 16, 2021, 08:11:27 PM
They made a lot of shareholders  very happy in that time, as they did in Iraq. That's the lesson they've learnt, and the game they've perfected.

Aye. Invent the war. Pummel with bombs. Make all the money rebuilding and then fuck off. I just saw one of those videos from the airport. Horrific. To be that desperate to get out.

Those videos are disturbing and the blame lies firmly at the feet of the US liberating other countries as an ideology, rather than Biden or Trump, although they are both still cunts of the highest order.

90% of the time petitions seem to be a waste of everybody's time but to see people talking about petitioning for better treatment of women in Afghanistan has to be some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen. Those people are fully at the mercy of the Taliban now. It's incredibly sad just how unreachable they are.

Also, I imagine a lot of drastic decisions will be made in the coming days, weeks and months as the excitement of the 'win' and the new regime runs its course. America and the brits really fucked that entire country.

On the positive side, Israel must be delighted.

Quote from: astfgyl on August 16, 2021, 10:32:53 PM
Quote from: Ollkiller on August 16, 2021, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 16, 2021, 08:11:27 PM
They made a lot of shareholders  very happy in that time, as they did in Iraq. That's the lesson they've learnt, and the game they've perfected.

Aye. Invent the war. Pummel with bombs. Make all the money rebuilding and then fuck off. I just saw one of those videos from the airport. Horrific. To be that desperate to get out.

Those videos are disturbing and the blame lies firmly at the feet of the US liberating other countries as an ideology, rather than Biden or Trump, although they are both still cunts of the highest order.

Didn't learn lessons from Soviets/Vietnam. Pre 9/11 the taliban didn't control all of Afghanistan, it was in a civil war but now they do and are better armed with all the US gear, so they left it in a worse condition.

Poor old DT isn't allowed on Twitter but the Taliban are. What a time to be alive!?

CIA backed Taliban. Geddit right lawd....

What does anyone think of the possibility that the yanks might go back in with the shock and awe? The war crowd haven't had much of a look in since covid

Quote from: open face surgery on August 18, 2021, 06:22:35 PM
Poor old DT isn't allowed on Twitter but the Taliban are. What a time to be alive!?

Just wait til someone asks the Taliban whether that NZ weightlifter is a man or a woman.


Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on August 19, 2021, 10:25:05 PM
Quote from: open face surgery on August 18, 2021, 06:22:35 PM
Poor old DT isn't allowed on Twitter but the Taliban are. What a time to be alive!?

Just wait til someone asks the Taliban whether that NZ weightlifter is a man or a woman.

:laugh:

Short doc here from Australian network ABC, about the law suit being filed against Fox and three of its hosts, by SmartMatic and Dominion, for their role in propagandizing the "stolen election" narrative on the basis of zero evidence and wilful ignorance of basic facts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWJhqOPe6rw

Footage from an Ohio Trump rally in June of this year feels 100% like a thousands strong cult meeting. I didn't really realize to what extent Trump was still pushing exactly the same narrative.

I watched that on telly last night. Mad stuff. Fox are looking at a bill of over $4 billion of these lawsuits are successful.

Why is Trump still doing rallies? Is it cos he's gonna run again or is he just acting the maggot?