The Donald vs Big Tech

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Some of the footage from Kabul airport is proper crazy. A few examples on this Indian journalist' twitter account:
https://twitter.com/sudhirchaudhary

[The Butcher]

The south vietnamese fought for like 5 years after the US implemented 'Vietnamisation' from 1969 and fought pretty much to the end...the afghans didnt even fight at all.

Mmmmm....support from a 7410 mile distance ->

https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKabul/status/1400060130243362816?s=1


Lawyer in UK, represented one of those isis fighters who returned to the UK ->
https://twitter.com/mohammedakunjee/status/1426977050062172164


NATO's aim was for women to make up 10% of the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF) by 2020...

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Whoever kicked off resurrecting that LGBT tweet from two months ago clearly only had conservative opportunistic shit-stirring on their mind. It has no serious relevance to what is happening on the ground right now, and the people digging it up, one can be pretty sure, don't give a flying fuck about the welfare of the Afghan citizens abandoned to their lot.

[The Butcher]

Whoever kicked off resurrecting that LGBT tweet from two months ago clearly only had conservative opportunistic shit-stirring on their mind. It has no serious relevance to what is happening on the ground right now, and the people digging it up, one can be pretty sure, don't give a flying fuck about the welfare of the Afghan citizens abandoned to their lot.

Regardless of the redirection, I think it shows how out of touch with Afghanistan the US was..or whoever was at the embassy.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The US has been out of touch with the Muslim world ever since it's been in touch with it. Using that undeniable fact to score points for a hard-line conservative agenda, that actually shares the same moral compass as the Taliban, albeit without using it to go quite so far in terms of punishment, that's not something that should be misunderstood or given attention at the moment. Misdirection rather than just redirection. 

Just have a look at some of the quote retweets of it from the last 24 hours. One from Don Jr. for example:
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1427090284626722821

Sure, what's happening now in Afghanistan is the result of the two minutes it took to post a tweet a couple of months ago. Misdirection, pure and simple.

And just in case it needs to be reminded, Trump was the one promising the earlier withdrawal from Afghanistan during the campaign trail. Think Republicans would have made sure everything was fine and dandy before leaving? Nah.

[astfgyl]

The Americans made one big fuck of Afghanistan. They have been talking about withdrawing for years and no way it was ever going to go smoothly. Those scenes from the airport are shocking stuff.

God Bless America and the War on Terror. Remind me again why they went into Afghanistan in the first place?

[Blackout]

I wish I had never seen any of those videos. Fucking depressing.

[Caomhaoin]

Oh stop with the 'sure Trump wouldn't have done any better'. No, probably not, but sure you're arguing with yourself. Caligulas legions fighting with the lapping waves!

The CIA produced the conditions for the Soviet invasion on 1979 (give them a Vietnam), and the depopulation phase of that war led to huge numbers of refugees into Pakistan, and thousands of young Pashtun orphans educated in fundamentalist Islamic schools. The fruits of which became the Taliban. Whose Da's and uncles the Americans gave stinger SAMS to. Proxy war cuntery, and the 'natives' be damned. It's enough to make you sick. American foreign policy has gotten worse since the  demise of the USSR, and that's an achievement.

These poor bastards waking up to the Taliban back in black, they'd nearly envy John Haitian at this stage.

[Ollkiller]

Fucking disgraceful from America. But totally predictable.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Oh stop with the 'sure Trump wouldn't have done any better'. No, probably not, but sure you're arguing with yourself.

I was "replying" to Don Jr. (who I quoted) and all the others making attempts to blame what's happening on the "woke" Democrat agenda, as per the tweet Butcher pasted. Keep your knickers on, and follow the context.

[Mower Liberation Front]

Clever Taliban, wait twenty years, then march back in to take over the entire country without having to fire more than a couple of shots, and not having to worry about Dostum and his Northwern Alliance either.

I'd say India is seriously pissed off too, all those billions pumped in to try and minimise Pakistani influence, and for what? Outmaneuvered by the ISI at every step. Kashmir's going to be even more of a tinderbox than ever.

[Caomhaoin]

The context? Stay away from bullshitters like him on Twitter (the glorious release of deleting that app) and I'm confident the 'context' will become clearer to you and everybody else.

[open face surgery]

Saw a video earlier of two bodies falling from one of the planes. Grim stuff.

America does have the strongest pull out game of 2021 though. Hats off.

[astfgyl]

Is this the Taliban thread now?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/08/16/scared-raped-killed-afghanistans-female-soldiers-fear-lives/

I thought this one was rather miserable. A lot of the headlines around the situation seem to be focused on the plight of the Afghan women, which is not surprising. 

I guess the lesson for the US and their allies is that the world-building lark isn't as easy as they thought and all the "progress" they thought they'd made in 20 years was so easily undone it's shocking.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

They made a lot of shareholders  very happy in that time, as they did in Iraq. That's the lesson they've learnt, and the game they've perfected.