The Donald vs Big Tech

[Mower Liberation Front]

You rattle on endlessly about how the media is owned by the progressives, and yet at other times you gloat about how certain Fox presenters have the largest viewerships. It's the size of the viewership, the reach, that counts. Even if Fox was the only conservative media, which it is not, if it was reaching as many voters as the combined efforts of as many progressive media as you like, then the potential for biasing would be, in effect, level between conservative media and progressive media.

I'd say a pretty good percentage of Fox's viewership is people watching it just to get outraged by the stuff they say.

[Yung Led Zeppelin]

The outrage over violence when the whole fucking year we've been saying that what's going on isn't the right way. But that's what happens when one side are allowed do whatever the hell they want and the others are meant to stand idly by and accept it. None of it is right, but let's not get up on our high horses about violence now please when we've been condoning it left right and centre all year. And before anyone says it, no, there isn't a difference between looting a Target and walking into a goverment building other than some symbolic bullshit difference. If I kick a guy in the head in a McDonalds or in St Patrick's cathedral, he's still getting kicked in the head.

Like the final stages of a presidential election process? That their man happened to be losing??

Not condoning looting at all (the foundations of a legitimate political statement in that case are shaky AT BEST) , but you surely have to see the impact of one vs the other?

[Pedrito]

The outrage over violence when the whole fucking year we've been saying that what's going on isn't the right way. But that's what happens when one side are allowed do whatever the hell they want and the others are meant to stand idly by and accept it. None of it is right, but let's not get up on our high horses about violence now please when we've been condoning it left right and centre all year. And before anyone says it, no, there isn't a difference between looting a Target and walking into a goverment building other than some symbolic bullshit difference. If I kick a guy in the head in a McDonalds or in St Patrick's cathedral, he's still getting kicked in the head.

Like the final stages of a presidential election process? That their man happened to be losing??

Not condoning looting at all (the foundations of a legitimate political statement in that case are shaky AT BEST) , but you surely have to see the impact of one vs the other?

Nothing that has happened this year has happened in isolation. All this for tat stuff is just brushing over that. It's all interrelated and both sides are trying to act like it's everyone's fault but theirs.

[astfgyl]

I would argue that Trump, at the very least, symbolised the desire of the people for change.

And you would be 100% correct. People are sick of the same political bullshit all the time. And Americans thought Trump could change that. I would say the same thing happened in our last election with the strong Sinn Fein vote.

Sinn fein could have put their dog up for election and won a record number of seats such was the level of revulsion with the status quo but somehow they didn't manage to get it right by not running enough candidates. I guess that was the plan all along, to give us everything we wanted to get rid of all at once and together at last and give us a proper appetite for change for the next time. Well it's either that or they couldn't shoot fish in a barrel and either way it's a shite performance

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I would argue that Trump, at the very least, symbolised the desire of the people for change. What that change is or was is hard to put a finger on and he was ultimately unable to provide it. All that said, 4 years later we're in an even worse place and god knows where it's going to be in another few years because NOTHING has changed. The same oul bullshitters are still in the positions of power and you can bet everything they do will be a out appeasing their own and pissing off the other side.

Right, see, there is common ground here. I know that Trump symbolized a desire for change, just like I know the Brexit Leave vote symbolized the same, SF in Ireland, FN in France, all various expressions of a desire for change. I shot down privileged liberals who called Trump voters idiots, just like I shot down pampered ex-Erasmus students who called Leave voters idiots. People like that have no notion of the lives some people live and the kind of existential, grinding yearning for change they have.

But Trump was as instantly obviously a fraud to what he supposedly symbolized as Boris fucking Johnson was. So, if I lay into Trump because of actions of his that douse conservatives with piss-poor reasoning and bullshit, that doesn't mean I think a Clinton administration would have been better. Sure, it would have been very different, much more "Presidential", but all the same divides and tensions still would have been there, BLM riots may still have happened, clashes like Charlottsville almost certainly. It's not like Trump would have just shut up if he'd lost. COVID still would have happened, and if Democrats had slapped on harsher lockdowns than Trump did, well you just would have had bigger conservative "freedoms" protests against them, and there's no reason to believe a single extra life would have been saved.

More often than not though, you speak as though you think Trump actually was what he merely symbolized. He wasn't.

[Pedrito]

Hey I have a few pints in me and I'll regret this in the morning but I'd be willing to meet you halfway absolutely on that but you wouldn't do the same even though you know you should. All that despite my being a massive fan of yours Chris..swoon! Trump came about because of the liberal bullshit, see how far we can take this woke lunacy before somebody actually decides to raise their voice in anger. The left just don't know when to stop is the problem. Most people are reasonable out, but you can just be pushing it too far aswell.

We (the ordinary man in the street who just wants a few pints on a Friday and maybe a handjob from the missus if she's in the mood) had Greta, BLM and the Coronacunts all preaching at us this year. There's only so much of that sanctimonious shite anyone can take tbh. So there was going to be a reaction and there will continue to be a reaction because most people would rather be wrong than have to listen to some arsehole telling them how wrong they are.

[Pedrito]

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[pete]

Twitter saying they have "permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence".
We may never hear from him again

"Permanently suspended" sounds wrong.

[Pedrito]

About as predictable as the storming of Capitol Hill the other day. Am I the the only one who can see some pink haired, sexually confused gimp waiting for the past year with his hand on the mouse to click that 'permanently suspended' button? Jesus, how fucking boring. How utterly obvious the whole thing. I think I'm turning into Mugz...aagaghhhhhhh!!!!

[Nail_Bombed]

Good riddance.

[Ollkiller]

Which of his offspring will he start tweeting from. Does Barron have an account?

[Pedrito]

Let's hope so

[astfgyl]

Good riddance.

Ah that's not fair

[pete]

Google have suspended Parler from the play store, not a massive issue on android, but rumours of Apple doing the same if moderation is not brought in.

https://www.droid-life.com/2021/01/08/google-bans-parler-from-google-play/

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Which of his offspring will he start tweeting from. Does Barron have an account?

https://twitter.com/barronjohn1946/status/1347694753786200064?s=19