I agree that the outcome is a certainty, but there will be half of the entire US unwilling to accept it. I said back at the beginning that this will be the new 9/11 and it is certainly turning out that way. Sure imagine if any of the court cases did work, there would be half of the US unwilling to accept that, too.

I don't think America is that divided on Donald's crazy talk of a rigged election!

Let's give them some credit haha

I thought that until I saw all of the Fight For Trump rallies and the fact that 75 million definitely did vote for him. I guess it's mostly to do with the fact that an outgoing president has never had a reaction like this before but a lot of the republican supporters sure do believe it.

And meanwhile, on the "vs Big Tech" side of the thread,  I see we finally have a suit taken against Facebook by the Federal government and almost 50 of the states, under anti-trust legislation.
End result should mean Zuck having to get rid of Instagram and WhatsApp at the very least.

#1939 December 13, 2020, 12:55:43 PM Last Edit: December 13, 2020, 01:05:41 PM by astfgyl
Reckon it will stick or is FB too big to fall?

Just reading the highlights on NPR there and it seems that if Zuckerberg fails to defend this one, that a good few other tech giants will have start worrying. It seems like the business practices of these lads have been basically the same since Gates cornered the OS market back in the day.

Quote from: astfgyl on December 13, 2020, 12:21:02 PM
I thought that until I saw all of the Fight For Trump rallies and the fact that 75 million definitely did vote for him. I guess it's mostly to do with the fact that an outgoing president has never had a reaction like this before but a lot of the republican supporters sure do believe it.

Voting for him and believing this nonsense are different things  :laugh:

Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on December 13, 2020, 12:32:57 PM
And meanwhile, on the "vs Big Tech" side of the thread,  I see we finally have a suit taken against Facebook by the Federal government and almost 50 of the states, under anti-trust legislation.
End result should mean Zuck having to get rid of Instagram and WhatsApp at the very least.

Yeah it's interesting isn't it, the FTC ok'd these in 2012 and 2014 and now have issues. Which I guess we should all admit we were wrong, but you'd wonder will they be able to undo it and how it will effect things going forward if they did, but I don't see it going anywhere, I think Facebook will prove enough competition to render these lawsuits useless.

Like the FTC never managed to break up Microsoft so I don't see much here.

But prove me wrong kids!!! Prove me wrong.


When you know that you are still the PRESIDENT ♥️

#1944 December 14, 2020, 10:52:18 PM Last Edit: December 14, 2020, 11:43:23 PM by pete
So Biden is official official...

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-270-electoral-college-vote-d429ef97af2bf574d16463384dc7cc1e

And Trump's sacked Barr, or Barr has said I quit?

Quote from: pete on December 14, 2020, 10:52:18 PM
So Biden is official official...

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-270-electoral-college-vote-d429ef97af2bf574d16463384dc7cc1e

And Trump's sacked Barr, or Barr has said I quit?

Apparently Barr had 'a very nice meeting' with Trump. I'm sure the meeting didn't involve a mass of expletives from the outgoing con man for failing to help him with illegally overturning the election.

Did I read somewhere Trump raised 200 odd million for these lawsuits and only spent 5 mill?

Quote from: Blackout on December 15, 2020, 09:30:02 AM
Did I read somewhere Trump raised 200 odd million for these lawsuits and only spent 5 mill?

Should have spent more of his grift money, maybe his ploy might have worked!

Quote from: Blackout on December 15, 2020, 09:30:02 AM
Did I read somewhere Trump raised 200 odd million for these lawsuits and only spent 5 mill?

I'm sure you did..somewhere

Quote from: Blackout on December 15, 2020, 09:30:02 AM
Did I read somewhere Trump raised 200 odd million for these lawsuits and only spent 5 mill?

Yep, the way the money is allocated means not a lot ends up going to lawsuit fund. He created this Save America PAC:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trumps-save-america-pac-is-raking-in-donations-what-can-that-money-be-spent-on/

and his website details how the money given is allocated:

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