The Donald vs Big Tech

[Pedrito]

Fine Gael became master of PR about 10 or qw years ago when they brought in Ireland's top PR group to handle everythjng they do. It's the reason Varadkar was ever even Taoiseach in the first place..anyone thinking that him coming out on the day gay marriage was voted in must be as naive as a 2 year old. They also kept Kenny under major wraps, there was a long time he went missing completely from public life altogether and even in the Dáil he kept things succint because he wss an absolute liability previous to that. So yeah, the PR thing has gone to epic levels of fuckery even on ouf small country level. Biden as bent as a 4 pound note and the entire mainstream is in on it..incredible really.

[astfgyl]

Yeah it is nuts the way the entire mainstream media seems to be in on it with Biden, when to my eyes Trump hasn't been any shitter than O'Bama was previous to him and that is even with a democratic majority congress against him for the last 2 years. Did you read that article I threw up there with the fella resigning from his own media outlet because he was censored from writing an anti Biden article? Imagine how many don't come out. As for Varadkar, fuck him.

[astfgyl]

Donald is bang on the money about being against big tech as I see it, to bring the thread round to it's original premise. Looking at FB removing an interview with Mike Yeadon because it contained "false content" when nothing of the sort happened. These cunts are locking down everything outside of the official narrative right before our eyes and no matter which side of any debate we all fall on, it is being carefully curated for us all to only see it one way. In the simple way of it being a giant fuck you to those particular big social media giants I'd like to see him win. I do however concede that going for anybody in a protest vote is exactly how Biden will win and be careful of the wolf we are letting in the door while protesting against the status quo

[Nazgûl]

I think there may be a small element who will vote for him because of all the memes, theatre and comedy he provides. Young f'las who don't care about or understand policy, or as a middle finger to the woke crowd.

Hmm...not sure about this. I think in fact that many of the woke people you mention there ARE young f'las. I'd also say many of them do care about policy, and how their own future will be impacted in terms of education, employment, climate change, etc. Trump has made a balls of handling the pandemic which has affected employment, doesn't believe in climate change, is critical of the BLM movement...these are things I'd wager a lot of young people do care very much about. And polls are saying that young voters are showing up in unprecedented numbers this week.

[Ollkiller]

Ollkiller, I get you don't like Trump and lots of people agree with you. I'm ambivalent myself but you are hardly saying Biden is any good are you? To imagine that shitehawk beinng president of the US is akin to imagining Trump would ever get there. Googling it also won't get you much in the way of the answer you are looking for unfortunately. See my previous post for an explanation as to why. It's a whitewash where Biden is concerned.

I've consistently said Biden is a terrible candidate. But definitely better than Trump. As regards the Hunter Biden thing. Meh. If there's evidence would Fox have released it. You betcha, they have the flash drive but won't release anything. Says it all really. Still will be close id day Tueaday night. Some saying Biden will take Florida but if he gets the rust belt hes home.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Yeah, there'd be nothing at all surprising from anyone in the political class being neck deep in corruption and shady financial dealings, so Hunter could well be just that. But when you look into the details of that computer story, there are more things that don't add up in it than your average anal probe alien abduction tale.

[Pedrito]

So they're quashing reporting onallegations that aren't true...yeah that adds up.

[Pedrito]

https://youtu.be/CYyn_XGAsCs

Take a moment to exit the echo chamber and listen to this guy who is currently being pursued by the Brazilian govt and Bolsonaro in a gianr legal case, gay, massive Bernie Sanders supporter, as left as they come, was basically on the run for his work with Edward Snowden, Julian Assange etc. He resigns this week for being prevented from reporting on Biden. We all know the Trump stuff, why can't a proper journalist report on Joe Biden without being silenced. Well worth a listen.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The Greenwald/Intercept story is a tangent to whether or not there are striking oddities about the Hunter Biden laptop/email story, which is all I was saying. Greenwald is definitely an interesting character, but he's not "as left as they come" at all, notably since Julian Assange and wikileaks are much more a fetish of the right and have been for a long time now. He's something better/worse ( depending on your perspective) than left or right; someone who at least appears to be as journalistically objective as possible. A question is whether or not it is appropriate or objective to publish perspectives on things before their factual basis can be fully, fully established...and the problem with that criterion is that it is more and more difficult to do, since there is more fakery, and of a more sophisticated kind, than ever before. To break that down, it is more difficult than ever, when reporting a particular angle in the interests of transparency and honest-to-goodness genuine journalism, to know whether or not you're actually playing along with a trap-game that someone planned for you, or someone like you, to participate in. That's what a "useful idiot" is, in the original sense. So, what do you do? How do you make editorial calls in that kind of climate? How was this election ever going to be anything other than an absolute chaotic blur of epistemic uncertainty??

Some of the holes in the laptop story are covered in this NBC piece below (yes, NBC obviously leans heavily democrat). I haven't read Greenwald's material on it all yet, I'll get around to it at some point.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533

[Cailleach]

Fine Gael became master of PR about 10 or qw years ago when they brought in Ireland's top PR group to handle everythjng they do. It's the reason Varadkar was ever even Taoiseach in the first place..anyone thinking that him coming out on the day gay marriage was voted in must be as naive as a 2 year old. They also kept Kenny under major wraps, there was a long time he went missing completely from public life altogether and even in the Dáil he kept things succint because he wss an absolute liability previous to that. So yeah, the PR thing has gone to epic levels of fuckery even on ouf small country level. Biden as bent as a 4 pound note and the entire mainstream is in on it..incredible really.

Well spotted about FG. While all  the major parties employ PR firms, Fine Gael have become the masters at  pr in recent years. It will be interesting to see how this thing with Leo plays out.
I  think even Mary Lou wants it to all blow over despite  being suitably outraged about it.

[Kurt Cocaine]

Businesses in America batten down the hatches in anticipation of ♥️Big Donnie's win.

https://youtu.be/O87d2lmuU0I

In all seriousness though. If ♥️Big Donnie were to win I feel that this ANTIFA and Burn Loot Murder plague won't be lasting much longer.

[Caomhaoin]

The Economist are giving Don a 4% chance of victory. I'm not confident, it's highly likely that auld Joe will be in tomorrow morning.

T'would be some laugh if he isn't though.

[Kurt Cocaine]

The Economist are giving Don a 4% chance of victory. I'm not confident, it's highly likely that auld Joe will be in tomorrow morning.

T'would be some laugh if he isn't though.

The predictions worked out well for evil Hillary last time alright.. 

Should be a good few days shenanigans ahead.
♥️Big Donnie all the way... 🇮🇪☘️🇺🇲

[Cailleach]

The problem  is the huge early vote turn out was a bad sign for him. Is there enough closet Donald voters this time to swing it for him.? It does not seem so- most either love or hate Donald at this stage,.
He is likely going to lose some of the key states this time around
If he does lose, he and  his supporters can always console themselves it was a fix, that poor Donald never really had a chance.

[Kurt Cocaine]

Unfortunately the old Corona debacle lost ♥️Big Donnie and fair few voters. But fuck them, he's still gonna win by a landslide.