Saw kirstey Alley trending there and I see she's getting a tonne of shit because she supports Trump. They're trying to get Fuckkirstyalley trending. Strangely, since she was my first crush it has a different meaning for me.

Whoever wins out of Trump or Biden, there's going to be a backlash shit storm.



Quote from: astfgyl on October 13, 2020, 10:07:48 AM
Black voices for Trump must be fairly unpopular going about their business. The question in my mind is has Trump been bad for Black communities or simply the same as ever, or has he improved their lot over the last 4 years? Some cacophony the whole thing. I can only imagine how confusing it must all be for the undecided US voter.

https://www.vox.com/21524499/what-trump-has-done-for-black-people

Here's an overview by Vox of what he has and hasn't done for the black community over there, with references and a level of fairness given to each point.

But essentially, he has done fuck all for the black community and takes credit for many policies and positive trends that were in place before his term.

He's a fucking spoof lads, can't believe some of the shite I'm reading here. Whatever about the woke left, leave all that aside and look at the guy's track record since getting into office. Totally inept.


Ah, Vox though, they are one of the biased sources around when it comes to Trump.

I think there may be a small element who will vote for him because of all the memes, theatre and comedy he provides. Young f'las who don't care about or understand policy, or as a middle finger to the woke crowd.

Black unemployment is down under his stewardship but whether or not that is co-incidence is unclear.

He's definitely not appropriate for the job. But (and this is not an either/or argument), the lad who is up against him is up to his eyeballs in corruption. A complete gangster. One look at the Hunter Biden story, the Ukranian oil money etc should be enough for any American to despair at their choices. A ridiculous state of affairs and a sign of how fucked the system is.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on October 29, 2020, 07:24:29 AMI think there may be a small element who will vote for him because of all the memes, theatre and comedy he provides. Young f'las who don't care about or understand policy, or as a middle finger to the woke crowd.
As a small aside to all of this, I know a good few younger people (18, 19) who voted for Willie O'Dea in the last election because 'the rubberbandits have a song about him and he's in loads of funny memes'.

Stanford University did a study on Trumps rallies. Link https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3722299 Comclusion that they caused an extra 30000 cases and 700 deaths. He's a fucking madman.

Let's be fair here, that paper is a load of political nonsense timed to coincide with the election. Whatever about being pro or anti Trump, there are a hell of a lot of assumptions made to get them to that figure of 700 deaths. Have you gone about reading the thing? The first page is dedicated to explaining how they are basically pulling out of their arses. Not peer reviewed either.

I wonder when somebody will pull out a shite paper like that for Biden's lockdown policies and the effect on poverty-related poor health outcomes or increases in opioid abuse or suicides due to loss of livelihoods or missed cancer screenings or delayed treatments for curable illnesses or the reported increases in problem drinking and domestic violence and child abuse or even the long term mental health effects of being kept away from family and friends for the aged. Fuck it, why not do up a paper on how many deaths were caused by Biden's beloved BLM protests? Sure we know why not, don't we

Seriously.


Aye it's not peer reviewed but it doesn't take a genius to realise holding a rally in the middle of a pandemic is lunacy. 100,000 cases yesterday. World record for cases in a day. He's a nutter.

Making a prediction here. Biden going to be the 46th president. Trump is going to be the 47th.

Quote from: Ollkiller on October 31, 2020, 01:14:47 PM

Aye it's not peer reviewed but it doesn't take a genius to realise holding a rally in the middle of a pandemic is lunacy. 100,000 cases yesterday. World record for cases in a day. He's a nutter.

I don't think he is quite the nutter the media would have us believe. I'm not saying I think he is all good either, but in a US election year, all stories must be taken with a pinch of salt. Logic would indeed say that large rallies should increase transmission and they surely do, but that paper trying to quantify it is rubbish and the timing is highly questionable. Don't really want to get into covid stuff on this thread but a lot of it is highly questionable and the media have a lot to answer for, not that they ever will.

I have said it here before but I can't understand how nobody could find a better runner than Biden and if he wins, it won't be because he is any good just that the hatred of Trump is so strong it gives him a chance.

Quote from: astfgyl on October 31, 2020, 02:06:37 PM
Quote from: Ollkiller on October 31, 2020, 01:14:47 PM

Aye it's not peer reviewed but it doesn't take a genius to realise holding a rally in the middle of a pandemic is lunacy. 100,000 cases yesterday. World record for cases in a day. He's a nutter.

I don't think he is quite the nutter the media would have us believe. I'm not saying I think he is all good either, but in a US election year, all stories must be taken with a pinch of salt. Logic would indeed say that large rallies should increase transmission and they surely do, but that paper trying to quantify it is rubbish and the timing is highly questionable. Don't really want to get into covid stuff on this thread but a lot of it is highly questionable and the media have a lot to answer for, not that they ever will.

I have said it here before but I can't understand how nobody could find a better runner than Biden and if he wins, it won't be because he is any good just that the hatred of Trump is so strong it gives him a chance.

Aye not going into Covid detail here, there's a thread as you said for that.  So i dont care about what the media would have us believe about him.  He has held multiple rallies (18 i think so far) during a pandemic. Absolute total fucking nutter of a lad.

Quote from: Ollkiller on October 31, 2020, 01:14:47 PM

Aye it's not peer reviewed but it doesn't take a genius to realise holding a rally in the middle of a pandemic is lunacy. 100,000 cases yesterday. World record for cases in a day. He's a nutter.

A nutter? No, you dislike him. It's not quite the same thing.

He has significant and manifest problems of emotional stability, a clear impulse-control disorder, and a fairly obvious narcissistic personality disorder. It just happens that those qualities are actually valued as positives by a lot of US citizens, which is something that can be seen on both sides of the US political divide. So, in the US, true enough, he isn't really a nutter; he's the very embodiment of the norm that makes the US stereotype what it is, what it has been since any of us have been alive.