Quote from: mickO))) on October 01, 2020, 03:20:14 PM
The debate was a big disappointment Trump let himself down with all the interruptions. He should have just let Biden speak you could see on a few occasions were Biden started to stutter or was about to fuck up but then Trump just interrupted him.

The big question for me is what did they do or give Biden to make him seem somewhat coherent that's the first time since he started running that he didn't get confused when speaking and I don't think a simple ear piece telling him what to say did the  job when he has even been struggling to read from teleprompters in the past.

He was coherent at his town hall and various interviews he has given in the last few months. Does he stutter. Yes. Does he do gaffes. Yes. But the narrative from Fox and the like of a blathering mess is nonsense. And when he talks policy hes light years ahead of Trump. Wouldnt be hard mind.

Quote from: Cailleach on October 01, 2020, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on October 01, 2020, 03:05:21 PM
Ah yeah it's wide open at the minute. I don't even know why I have this sneaking suspicion that he will win out. I had the same feeling last time round even though on the face of it, Hilary seemed a dead certainty to get the job.

I think Hilary's mistake was her team took certain states for granted, so ignored them. Also she is intensely disliked by a lot of  people that see her as an elitist, who really did noting for Joe public. Donald could  win, but i suspect he may know the game is up when he is scaremongering about mass postal fraud. 
There is talk of the mics being turned off in the next debate if a candidate keeps interrupting, Donald talking to himself will be funny to watch :laugh:

There was a certain arrogance there in thinking that Trump would lose all by himself and that she wouldn't have to really do a whole lot to see him off.

Edit:The postal vote thing does smell of desperation.

Anyway I probably won't watch any of the debates myself. Saw a couple of minutes and it was infuriating. I'll let some other poor fucker watch it and read the transcript.

I don't get the view that he's 'light years ahead on policy'. One of the core reasons for Trump having an unshakable grip on certain sectors of society is that he is seen as a man, for all his flaws and all his bluster and all his exaggeration, who wants the best for America, as opposed to being a career politician, a panderer, a patsy. His economic successes are not refutable, although he can't help but embellish them. Biden thinks the Green New Deal, one of the most preposterous proposals I've ever heard, is a good idea (or at least he pretends to, he's as greasy as you'd expect in this cutthroat times).

He's not bombing cunts, he has kept his nose out of foreign military entanglements for the most part, he would like to take US troops out of places where they frankly shouldn't be, and I'm not solely referring to Afghanistan.

Personal charm for many, in the way that CJ had at home, doesn't hurt either.

I understood that as meaning "light years ahead in his knowledge and understanding of policy". Pretty sure there are folk still getting bombed since 2017 too.


Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 01, 2020, 07:24:19 PM
I understood that as meaning "light years ahead in his knowledge and understanding of policy". Pretty sure there are folk still getting bombed since 2017 too.

Aye that's what I meant. Compare Bidens response about Covid at the town hall meeting to any of Trumps multiple daily Covid bridefings. Light years apart. Another thing that's quite distasteful is how in those early briefing you never heard Trump utter condolences for the families who lost loved ones. I suppose that would go against the narrative of the amazing job they're doing.

Trump's patter is very vague, that's certainly true. Nevertheless he did quite a bit of what he said he'd do, and that's undeniable, despite his inability to express intricacy, and millions of his own people have benefitted in real terms, including the people they are trying to re-educate you into believing he hates.

He's not that bad.


Quote from: Caomhaoin on October 01, 2020, 07:47:51 PMand millions of his own people have benefitted in real terms,

Yeah like a Proud Boy getting into an official campaign video, just great  :abbath:

https://www.newsweek.com/proud-boys-trump-video-colorado-rally-1535645

#1388 October 02, 2020, 06:20:03 AM Last Edit: October 02, 2020, 06:51:54 AM by Caomhaoin
The Proud Boys are not racists and don't burn stuff down or kill people. Yet they get thrown in the jail for fighting Antifa pansies who are, until recently, seemingly above the law!

They may have some members with crossover membership of groups of assholes, but the western chauvinist and Antifa bashing? Carry on lads.


A decent, drama free, breakdown of Hunter Biden here. Even if it's all perfectly legal, I'm not sure how any right minded person can think any of it is right, and it's certainly not only democrats at it. A pure swamp the whole lot of it: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/hunter-bidens-legal-socially-acceptable-corruption/598804/


Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 01, 2020, 07:24:19 PM
I understood that as meaning "light years ahead in his knowledge and understanding of policy". Pretty sure there are folk still getting bombed since 2017 too.

Yes, lot of people still on the receiving end of drone strikes, it's just they tend not to be reported on unless it's someone high profile like the the head of the Quds Forces.

Yeah but who? And where? Existing war zones?

Quote from: Caomhaoin on October 02, 2020, 12:32:41 PM
Yeah but who? And where? Existing war zones?

You said he wasn't dropping bombs on folk. But he is. Now what's your logic?
"The person was already being kicked to death before I arrived! I can hardly be blamed for carrying it on!"

I think it was Juggz already posted this a couple of weeks back, to answer your questions more specifically:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/map-shows-places-world-where-us-military-operates-180970997/

Quote from: Caomhaoin on October 02, 2020, 06:20:03 AM
The Proud Boys are not racists and don't burn stuff down or kill people. Yet they get thrown in the jail for fighting Antifa pansies who are, until recently, seemingly above the law!

They may have some members with crossover membership of groups of assholes, but the western chauvinist and Antifa bashing? Carry on lads.

I love how you defaulted to "they're not racists!" without being prompted.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on October 02, 2020, 12:32:41 PM
Yeah but who? And where? Existing war zones?

Trumo has more drone strikes under his watch than Obama's. They just dont report them anymore. Nothing to see here.