The Donald vs Big Tech

[pete]

First debate this evening. Might be interesting. The whole senile/dementia stick about Biden will come back to bite Trump in the ass if Biden stays coherent. Plus the fact Bidens best attribute is actually his debating skills.

Yeah looking forward to the debate. Did they come to any agreement on the fact checking during it? Or is he going to be lying away and crying fake news at everything? Can the moderator correct any of this rubbish?

Will be good to get his update on his war on Big Tech for the sake of this thread alone. I presume he's been working hard on a plan!

No agreement on fact checking afaik. Chris Wallace of Fox news is the moderator. He should be a good moderator. Hes fair and balanced. He was the one who had the interview with Trump on the White House lawn a few weeks ago and fact checked him in real time. An absolute clusterfuck of an interview by Trump.

Ah yeah I remember that one.

"I heard we have one of the lowest, maybe the lowest, mortality rate anywhere in the world" and then cried Fake News at Wallace. It can be hard to work out if he is just playing the game or is actually that ignorant and misinformed.

Hopefully that kind of rubbish will be stamped out tonight.

[Caomhaoin]

Respect to Biden showing up, he seems well advanced in his dotage by all accounts, but those Fox News editors are clearly exaggerating or inventing wholesale a lot of this senility guff. We'll see this evening I suppose.

[pete]

Like every mainstream media outlet that is not Fox, they tried to make him look a stumblebum, or a bigot or whatever. If you think it was a 'clusterfuck' of an interview, explain why? It's what you want to believe, clearly.

Watch the unedited Charlottesville interviews, not the one CNN showed you and which millions swallowed as verbatim. You can't trust any of these rats.

I watched him with Wallace on Fox. He appeared inept there too IMO.

The white House YouTube channel also broadcasts things that make him look inept. Even his own tweets make him look inept.

I think we may have to stop blaming this mainstream media ha.

[Ollkiller]

Like every mainstream media outlet that is not Fox, they tried to make him look a stumblebum, or a bigot or whatever. If you think it was a 'clusterfuck' of an interview, explain why? It's what you want to believe, clearly.

Your last line there. It's not what I want to believe. Trump has given 2 possibly 3 really good speeches. He did one about his brothers drinking and how he avoided drink and it was actually heart warming and thoughtful. There was also a policy speech he did a year ago (cant remember off the top of my head which one) and he was coherent and he nailed it.

His interview with Wallace was one of the first where he got fact checked in real time. And I watched it. And Trump did an awful interview. To be honest it was more of an eye opener to see a fox representative not give him an easy ride.

[astfgyl]

It can be hard to work out if he is just playing the game or is actually that ignorant and misinformed.

I don't think anyone gives him enough credit for how well he plays the game to be fair. I reckon he is a lot smarter than he is made out to be and knows exactly who his main voter base is and how entrenched a lot of them are. He just needs to get enough of them energized enough to vote and he is a shoo in.

[pete]

Like every mainstream media outlet that is not Fox, they tried to make him look a stumblebum, or a bigot or whatever. If you think it was a 'clusterfuck' of an interview, explain why? It's what you want to believe, clearly.

Your last line there. It's not what I want to believe. Trump has given 2 possibly 3 really good speeches. He did one about his brothers drinking and how he avoided drink and it was actually heart warming and thoughtful. There was also a policy speech he did a year ago (cant remember off the top of my head which one) and he was coherent and he nailed it.

His interview with Wallace was one of the first where he got fact checked in real time. And I watched it. And Trump did an awful interview. To be honest it was more of an eye opener to see a fox representative not give him an easy ride.

I enjoyed the one where he hit back at the media about them giving him hassle about not being able to drink out of the glass. It was one of his rallies, can't remember which one. But he spoke well for a while and put on a good show imo. An energy that Biden doesn't have.

[Ollkiller]

It can be hard to work out if he is just playing the game or is actually that ignorant and misinformed.

I don't think anyone gives him enough credit for how well he plays the game to be fair. I reckon he is a lot smarter than he is made out to be and knows exactly who his main voter base is and how entrenched a lot of them are. He just needs to get enough of them energized enough to vote and he is a shoo in.

Oh he's brilliant at playing the game. Gotta give him credit for that. It's not just his base he needs though. He had votes from outside his base last time, especially undecided voters who disliked Hillary. I doubt he has them this time. He was the outsider last time. This time he has to defend his 4 years as president.

[astfgyl]

That's a fair point, anyone but Hilary and they'd have been nailed on. I still can't believe that Biden is the best the Democrats could come up with to oppose him this time either. Surely there was somebody more charismatic they could have thrown in there. I think Trump will get in again and I wonder was it some sort of arrogance on the opposition's side thinking they could let anyone at all run against him and win.

Anyway if he doesn't get back in he could always invoke the Irish solution and simply repeat the process until he gets the result he wants.

[Ollkiller]

That's a fair point, anyone but Hilary and they'd have been nailed on. I still can't believe that Biden is the best the Democrats could come up with to oppose him this time either. Surely there was somebody more charismatic they could have thrown in there. I think Trump will get in again and I wonder was it some sort of arrogance on the opposition's side thinking they could let anyone at all run against him and win.

Anyway if he doesn't get back in he could always invoke the Irish solution and simply repeat the process until he gets the result he wants.

Aye how they couldn't find a different candidate to Biden is beyond me.

[Eoin McLove]

Ah sure you know the lefties. They're all pepped up on goofballs.

[Caomhaoin]

The solution they seem to have come up with is Kamela Harris, who is another fuckin' eejit who got trounced in the primaries, but she's at least somewhat dynamic, the right colour (black but not too black), and she's trying to talk like the cool kids (didn't work for Hilary but sure listen). The unspoken message, I feel, just vote for the auld lad and it'll be this one running the show.

The problem for Biden is, Trump is a bit like Iván Drago when it comes to debating, and he's more of a Francie Barrett than Rocky Balboa. Will the debate change many minds considering how entrenched every cunt over there seems to be? Hard to say with certainty, not not significant numbers id imagine.

Sure it's a bit of a laugh anyway

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Well, from these four minutes I can firmly conclude that these two geriatric bickering toddlers are not worth 86 more of my minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kK9UU3dTo8

[Caomhaoin]

I woke up in the middle of the night for a piss and put it on for a few minutes. Trump was interrupting constantly, going on about Bidens son being kicked out of the army for being a cokehead (what the fuck like🤣). The other lad losing his rag and babbling incoherent shite. What an utter shambles.

[Kurt Cocaine]

It's what America deserves... 

[Yung Led Zeppelin]

Trump's comments at the end, calling for what essentially amounts to voter intimidation as if it's not a bother.......

They said some things alright. Calling it a debate would be a bit of a stretch though. What a joke.