The Donald vs Big Tech

[Pedrito]

Okay, so to go back to his points on BLM; my conviction would be that he's more concerned with getting people to vote Trump than he is with anything even vaguely in the domain of minority civil rights, and his rhetoric of discrediting the movement with shallow if not false arguments (while there is no lack of valid but more nuanced ones) serves mainly to persuade rather than to get at any "truth". This seems clear from the attention he gives to one anecdotal case, from years ago, where things were not how they seemed. That's propaganda baby! And yes, Trevor Noah, John Oliver, etc., use loads of it too...but you'd spot that from a mile off, no problem. Murray's, ye've been arguing it doesn't exist for pages now. They're all at it, but our personal biases blind us only to half.

Nah, I'd see through all that man. Sam Harris too. They're as transparent as glass and they have nowhere near the exposure of the lads you mentioned above. Imagine being American and having to listen to some bespectacled English twat like John Oliver shite all over your culture and values every night of the week. Hey, maybe he has a point on some things, but his complete disdain for the people, the traditions and the values of so many Americans is bordering on hatred. It's like you go to France Chris and spend your time telling them they're wrong at everything. 'Fuck off back home' would wouldn't be such a bad response to that. Noah, the same. Transplanting the issues.of his home country onto the country that welcomed him with open arms. And yet the white man is always on his back despite him rising to the top of society in the States...agghhh fucking champagne socialist types, everyone else is to blame despite them living in the lap of luxury.

[Pedrito]

So today Trump said if you voted by mail to go down and then try to vote in person. To test the system. Which is actually voter fraud. The Law and Order president right there. And Barr in a CNN interview said he was unaware of the state laws about the legality of voting twice. He's only the Attorney General. How do they not know basic shit like you can't vote twice.

Or maybe he's saying the system is shite? Loads of Irish vote multiple times. It was a Sinn Féin strategy in the last election sure.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

La France ; tu l'aimes ou tu la quittes !

[hellfire]

Double post

[Pedrito]

La France ; tu l'aimes ou tu la quittes !

Don't be getting all sexy on me now 

[hellfire]

Okay, so to go back to his points on BLM; my conviction would be that he's more concerned with getting people to vote Trump than he is with anything even vaguely in the domain of minority civil rights, and his rhetoric of discrediting the movement with shallow if not false arguments (while there is no lack of valid but more nuanced ones) serves mainly to persuade rather than to get at any "truth". This seems clear from the attention he gives to one anecdotal case, from years ago, where things were not how they seemed. That's propaganda baby! And yes, Trevor Noah, John Oliver, etc., use loads of it too...but you'd spot that from a mile off, no problem. Murray's, ye've been arguing it doesn't exist for pages now. They're all at it, but our personal biases blind us only to half.

What false or exaggerated claims has Mr Murray made about the BLM movement exactly?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Fill your boots starting from the top of page 77:
https://forum.metalwarfare.com/index.php?topic=1258.1140

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

La France ; tu l'aimes ou tu la quittes !

Don't be getting all sexy on me now 

"La France ; tu l'aimes ou tu la quittes !"
- Marion Maréchal Le Pen
(She may or may not ever have said this, but it is a famous slogan of the FN  )

[Pedrito]

Wudn't mind seeing her in her Stürmbahnführer uniform

[Ollkiller]

So today Trump said if you voted by mail to go down and then try to vote in person. To test the system. Which is actually voter fraud. The Law and Order president right there. And Barr in a CNN interview said he was unaware of the state laws about the legality of voting twice. He's only the Attorney General. How do they not know basic shit like you can't vote twice.

Or maybe he's saying the system is shite? Loads of Irish vote multiple times. It was a Sinn Féin strategy in the last election sure.

Mail in voting has been used for decades. In a court case last week in Pennsylvania the judge asked the government for evidence of mail in fraud. They couldn't produce any. It's a bullshit tactic by the republicans to try to discredit the result of the election. Trump even said a few months ago the idea of a republican voting twice is repulsive and he advocated for it today.

[Pedrito]

He's an awful messer in fairness

[Ollkiller]

He's an awful messer in fairness

Sure is. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

For a draft dodger to be calling American soldiers who died losers won't play well. And saying no one wants to see amputee veterans. Wowsers. He's already tweeted he never called McCain a loser when he's on record as calling him a  loser. What a messer.

[Pedrito]

'According to sources..'

[Ollkiller]

'According to sources..'

How do you write an article without sources.

EDIT. So the original Atlantic article says they had multiple sources with first hand knowledge of what Trump said. The Atlantic is a reputable publication. It's not CNN like. The Washington Post is now also running the story. James LaPorta is an AP reporter who verified the story with officials in the Department of Defence. Highly reputable reporter who is a former marine infantry man. Bio here. https://muckrack.com/james-laporta

So the quotes are entirely credible and have been verified.  Is that good enough?

[mickO)))]

So today Trump said if you voted by mail to go down and then try to vote in person. To test the system. Which is actually voter fraud. The Law and Order president right there. And Barr in a CNN interview said he was unaware of the state laws about the legality of voting twice. He's only the Attorney General. How do they not know basic shit like you can't vote twice.

Or maybe he's saying the system is shite? Loads of Irish vote multiple times. It was a Sinn Féin strategy in the last election sure.

Mail in voting has been used for decades. In a court case last week in Pennsylvania the judge asked the government for evidence of mail in fraud. They couldn't produce any. It's a bullshit tactic by the republicans to try to discredit the result of the election. Trump even said a few months ago the idea of a republican voting twice is repulsive and he advocated for it today.

If you read the actual Twitter quote not just the snippet the media posted he told people who use mail in voting to go to the polling stations on election day to see if they can vote if they can't then it means the mail in ballot has not been counted. He's saying things like this on purpose to show people what the media is like and they keep falling for it.