The Donald vs Big Tech

[astfgyl]

I've said it here a good few times, and I generally like the idea of socialism, but the left and the right are as bad as each other and despite being supposed polar opposites on the face of it they have almost undergone some sort of role reversal. The militant nature of both just makes them two sides of the same coin.

[mugz]

I've said it here a good few times, and I generally like the idea of socialism, but the left and the right are as bad as each other and despite being supposed polar opposites on the face of it they have almost undergone some sort of role reversal. The militant nature of both just makes them two sides of the same coin.

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[Kunt 4 Life]

I take it the indian character in Short Circuit means that film is on the censor list?

Pity, cause he was really funny.

in the sequel, he'd grown up, lost his enthusiasm etc, kinda sad to see

The sequel needed Steve Gutenberg back.

Although that kicking Johnny 5 got was brutal for a kids film.

[astfgyl]

Twas nearly as bad as Murphy got in Robocop

[mugz]

Twas nearly as bad as Murphy got in Robocop

at the time it was genuinely quite intense, no idea if it would raise an eyebrow these days

[Trev]

Suppose it's only a matter of time before they go after Tropic Thunder

[Kunt 4 Life]

Never go full retard

[astfgyl]

It seems a lot of folks in the states and the rest of those countries in thrall to them have not heeded that advice

[Pedrito]

They´  re banning this too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ntstVm8b8 Never saw it until now, actually a bit of craic.

I wonder when the book burnings will start? They´  re probably too crafty and media aware to allow themselves be seen doing it the cunts. Where does it stop, Lolita, Huckleberry Finn, Conan the Barbarian, anything that might have a slightly out of date way of representing race and culture or questionable morals despite the fact that it´  s fiction and grown adult are meant to be able to distinguish between real life and fiction. The  lunatics are taking over the asylum.

They banned Gone with the wind too despite Hattie McDaniel winning an oscar for best supporting actress, the first African American woman to do so..but she´ s probably been confined to the annals of history as some sort of Uncle Tom or whatever underhanded, resentful phrase they can come up for anyone who is successful.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

If you don't like it, act. Nothing has been banned, this is just corporations doing what they see as strategic audience flattering. If the government were imposing the ban (as was the case in the past with Lolita, Huckleberry Finn, etc.), that would be a different thing. So get everyone who disagrees to cancel their Netflix and understand that it's purely a marketing move ultimately aimed at maintaining and generating revenue. If you can rally up enough cancellations, they'll roll back. Meantime, you can still download pretty much anything you want with little to no effort.

I'm not "defending" censorship of anything. If HBO want to contextualize Gone With The Wind while leaving the work itself intact, grand. If Netflix want to pull something from their roster, I don't care, I'm not a client. That's how they see all of us: customer or not customer. That's it, full stop. They love that people see them as something more! But they're not more than that. They're just acting to get new customers, just like Ben & Jerry's "blackwashing" while tacitly supporting annexation in Palestine. Praising them or condemning them for "censoring" is exactly the noise they want right now.

[Pedrito]

Yes, definitely agree for the most part, though not on the Gone With The Wind thing. Again, it´ s all a little too easily explained in that way. So definitely these companies Netflix etc, it´ s  nasty, opportunistic, virtue signalling and while Banning might not be at government level, it´ s starting to be such a widespread marketing tool by these companies, that it is far more than simply taking stuff down. They imply that these actors and show writers had racist intent, and you would hope that someone big enough is going to get deplatformed or pulled or ` banned´ , someone with money to take one of these scumbag companies to court.

But yes, it´ s all marketing, be it Yorkshire Tea or Netflix, whatever. I don´  t have Netflix and I will continue to watch their stuff illegally after this 

The gas thing is, is Jeff Bezos and these arseholes are all coming out at the moment with their virtue signalling and if that man wanted to he could probably solve Minneapolis´   issues tomorrow. If Google, Amazon, Facebook etc etc etc all paid the correct taxes that they should be paying in their countries they would contribute hugely, the trickle down would be immense. We get obsessed with it in Ireland, but the problem is is that we´ re simply a hub. The money should be going back into the UK, for example, where most sales come from. Now, the irony is that Trump is the only one who has even broached the subject about the offshore money that should be going back into the American economy, but he´ ll never get the credit for it.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Right. So either act, or say nothing. Because if you make a lot of noise about "banning" (which isn't happening; from their point of view they're literally just discontinuing a product) but there's no mass walk away action, then you're actually and inadvertently contributing to what you're decrying.

[Caomhaoin]

You are right, and I don't believe any of the suits making these decisions give a fiddlers fart about it, and HR will run up a 'statement' later about such-and-such not being in line with the 'values' of the company.

You are also right about downloading, although I'm forbidden from doing that on the computer at home, so I do use Netflix and HBO, Amazon etc. I also don't care whether or not I can watch 'Gone with the Wind' as such, but it's the principal.

The troubling issue is where this is going to end, and that as there is little or no resistance to their demands,?why should they stop making more? That fucking DiBlasio renaming streets (plural!) Black Lives Matter Street? Hi, he can fuck off with that, it would have been unthinkable a few weeks ago. George Floyd was a career criminal who once held a gun to pregnant woman's belly. By all accounts not a good fella, none of which excuses his murder, but you'd swear it was the Dalai Lama who got choked to death. He's been given multiple quasi-state funerals, and he's now a martyr to the BLM cause, and they'll milk it as long as they are allowed to.

It's like Scotland in the 1630s and 40's, it's effectively a religion now, a cult. And the leaders over there are just greasing up their arseholes and saying 'come ahead'.

[Pedrito]

Right. So either act, or say nothing. Because if you make a lot of noise about "banning" (which isn't happening; from their point of view they're literally just discontinuing a product) but there's no mass walk away action, then you're actually and inadvertently contributing to what you're decrying.

I edited my post. I don´t think it´  s quite as easy as you´ re making it out to be. These companies hold great power in the world now. What they are implying is not being challenged, not enough people are able to see through the charade, they are dangerous, and ignorant with their actions. It´ s all very reactionary and there seems to be little thought put into anything they decide to do. Again, I take your points, they´  re all very fair, as I said I won´  t be paying Netflix, and certainly I have been and will continue to bring people in my surroundings over to my way of thinking. I think you might be expecting a lot though, these companies hold giant monopolies now over content and there doesn´  t seem to be any standard they are held to. It probably rolls back into the original idea behind this thread in the first place.

[mugz]

They´  re banning this too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ntstVm8b8 Never saw it until now, actually a bit of craic.

I wonder when the book burnings will start? They´  re probably too crafty and media aware to allow themselves be seen doing it the cunts. Where does it stop, Lolita, Huckleberry Finn, Conan the Barbarian, anything that might have a slightly out of date way of representing race and culture or questionable morals despite the fact that it´  s fiction and grown adult are meant to be able to distinguish between real life and fiction. The  lunatics are taking over the asylum.

They banned Gone with the wind too despite Hattie McDaniel winning an oscar for best supporting actress, the first African American woman to do so..but she´ s probably been confined to the annals of history as some sort of Uncle Tom or whatever underhanded, resentful phrase they can come up for anyone who is successful.

chris lilley did some great stuff in the late 00s, all over bbc3 at the time, kind of surprising given how sharp he is in his caricatures

ronny chieng did something similar more recently and it was pretty good really