The Donald vs Big Tech

[blessed1]

I actually follow a few traveller pages for the fights and call outs and one lad commented why don't travellers start riots and whatnot in the name of travellers and another traveller replied to him and said sure we would only end up killing each other 

[astfgyl]

yeah that is pretty much it in a nutshell.

So in the future instead of taking the knee for the blacks we will be taking the yoke for the knackers and so on and so forth

[blessed1]

yeah that is pretty much it in a nutshell.

So in the future instead of taking the knee for the blacks we will be taking the yoke for the knackers and so on and so forth

At least everybody would be happy.
I always said they should be giving mandatory dips of mdma on entry to pubs and clubs.
It's a recipe for success imo!

[mickO)))]

The Toronto Board of Health today declared anti-Black racism a public health crisis.

[Pedrito]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/8/21281998/chicago-violence-murder-history-homicide-police-crime

Incredible stuff really. The most violent day in 60 years in Chicago. 18 murders in one day. Majority black on black violence. Medical professionals saying they'd never seen  anything like it. But of course they'll find a way to blame the cops I'm sure and why would you protest peacefully when that's what your oppressors want?

This is the result of the eye for an eye talk, the fake rage, the reactionary stance, the call to arms, the impulsive twitter rants, the narcissistic virtue signalling, the warped ideologues, the new priesthood.

I wonder where Trevor Noah and his comedian cohorts are now? Does he have a witty, ironic 2 minute video that underplays all of this and blames everything on his beloved white brothers..fucking hack. Are Antifa down in these communities setting up soup kitchens and painting storefronts? No, because they are hateful, spiteful cunts who don't care who gets hurt as long as they get to vent their rage for Daddy not paying enough attention when they were kids the twisted cunts.

Where are all the blackout twats now when the chips are down? Spoof and convoluted talk is all we hear. Big airy fairy explanations when the most vulnerable are being terrorised by people in their own community and law enforcement is powerless to stop any of it because they have their hands tied by people who want to get their feet washed, scapegoats in a far deeper more rotten conspiracy of silence and a struggle for power.

[Caomhaoin]

That fanny Jacob Frey, after prostrating himself at the feet of BLM activists about 'addressing his own brokenness' being told to 'get the fuck out of here' for saying he didn't support abolition of the police. Then he has to do a walk of shame, being taunted by power drunk lunatics. He's the mayor of Minneapolis! He runs the place! And that other cunt Bender saying that calling the police because someone is breaking into your house is 'privilege'...it's unbelievable.

I use BBC for sports news only, and it's all 'we need more black managers', 'pull down all the statues', 'you can't understand the black experience'. An LA Galaxy player sacked because his WIFE criticised BLM on twitter.

I wonder what the reaction would be if someone walked around with a placard saying 'it's ok to be white' in one of these places now. Would the inevitable lynching be reported as a hate crime? I very much doubt it. It seems to have been agreed amongst these people that racism towards white people is impossible.

[Pedrito]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/us/minneapolis-mayor-jacob-frey-walk-of-shame.html

They want the abolition of the police and yet the police weren't there to stop 18 murders in one day in Chicago. A better organised police force maybe? God forbid a bit of common sense might be used.

At least the mayor had the guts to stand there and tell the truth. Yes, he's a virtue signaller, but I suppose someone has to try and meet it in the middle somewhere. Should he be standing in front of a kangaroo court like that though? Dangerous game he's playing.

[Kurt Cocaine]

Society is on its arse when a career criminal is being lauded as some sort of martyr.
The cause is correct. The instance isn't.

[hellfire]

That fanny Jacob Frey, after prostrating himself at the feet of BLM activists about 'addressing his own brokenness' being told to 'get the fuck out of here' for saying he didn't support abolition of the police. Then he has to do a walk of shame, being taunted by power drunk lunatics. He's the mayor of Minneapolis! He runs the place! And that other cunt Bender saying that calling the police because someone is breaking into your house is 'privilege'...it's unbelievable.

I use BBC for sports news only, and it's all 'we need more black managers', 'pull down all the statues', 'you can't understand the black experience'. An LA Galaxy player sacked because his WIFE criticised BLM on twitter.

I wonder what the reaction would be if someone walked around with a placard saying 'it's ok to be white' in one of these places now. Would the inevitable lynching be reported as a hate crime? I very much doubt it. It seems to have been agreed amongst these people that racism towards white people is impossible.

This would seem to be the culmination of years of Twitter logic. Say something and you're right and anyone who doesn't like it can face the mob. If I'm right then no amount of reform will appease the mob.

I'd pity the genuine protestors who only want some basic human stuff like not getting killed over a dud 20 and a safer country for their kids. Their point has been completely hijacked by a number of external actors and a baying mob of Twitter fuelled morons.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/8/21281998/chicago-violence-murder-history-homicide-police-crime

Did you read the article? It's full of responses from members of the community involved in trying to do what the government won't:

[The Rev. Michael Pfleger, a longtime crusader against gun violence] noted the systemic problems that have plagued minority communities for decades — like joblessness, food insecurity and a lack of housing — were already heightened by the COVID-19 outbreak, which he said "made a bad situation worse."

Floyd's killing in Minnesota simply brought further to the fore the "hopelessness and anger" felt by those living in blighted communities, added Pfleger, who said the current unrest reminds him of the rioting that broke out when the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated.

"It's like a time bomb out here," Pfleger said. "People are on the edge, people are angry, people are poor, and they don't even know when it's going to change."

If immediate action isn't taken to address systemic racism, poverty and "black folks being shot down and killed out here like dogs," Pfleger said the last weekend in May will merely serve as a "coming attraction of what's going to happen next."

[Kapustin of U. of C.'s crime lab] said the current situation "lays bare a really nuanced understanding of the role of the police."

"You have to sort of ask yourself: How are you going to get to a place where you have a police department that people respect and that has earned the trust of the community, but it's still actually effective at reducing gun violence, which is the thing that plagues a lot of these neighborhoods," Kapustin said. "And we're so far right now from getting that figured out."

Thousands demonstrating annually in Chicago for gun control (something, incidentally which has been a mainstay of the Daily Show since the Jon Stewart days and still is today). Constant calls from the left to invest in communities, and in community action, while the grassroots movements which do exist and try to engage on the ground with gang members to effectively reduce violence are under-funded. Anger at these underlying causes and how they are not being addressed, as Republicans and Democrats play out their political games at the city versus state level, is also central to the entire protest movement that is going on. 18 murders in one day is terrible: the people protesting want community investment that helps to reduce the hundreds and hundreds annually, but they're not getting that. So, if they don't protest, nothing changes and the communities remain war zone slums where kids have no prospects but easy access to guns and gang life. But, if they do protest, they get blamed for diverting police attention away from these communities (which in any case are badly policed). Literally damned if you do, damned if you don't. The government does not care about these communities, that is what is very clear, that is what the protests are fundamentally about. And who you refer to as the liberals, for all their faults, this is the button they bang at more than any other: poverty.

[Eoin McLove]

https://youtu.be/UPiNiTwf5bM

Listening to these lads at the minute.  An interesting and very much against the grain stance to hold within the American black community I'm sure,  but it's good to see there are some sensible people on both sides trying to unpick some of the nuttiness that various factions of society seem tangled in.

[Pedrito]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/8/21281998/chicago-violence-murder-history-homicide-police-crime

Did you read the article? It's full of responses from members of the community involved in trying to do what the government won't:

[The Rev. Michael Pfleger, a longtime crusader against gun violence] noted the systemic problems that have plagued minority communities for decades — like joblessness, food insecurity and a lack of housing — were already heightened by the COVID-19 outbreak, which he said "made a bad situation worse."

Floyd's killing in Minnesota simply brought further to the fore the "hopelessness and anger" felt by those living in blighted communities, added Pfleger, who said the current unrest reminds him of the rioting that broke out when the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated.

"It's like a time bomb out here," Pfleger said. "People are on the edge, people are angry, people are poor, and they don't even know when it's going to change."

If immediate action isn't taken to address systemic racism, poverty and "black folks being shot down and killed out here like dogs," Pfleger said the last weekend in May will merely serve as a "coming attraction of what's going to happen next."

[Kapustin of U. of C.'s crime lab] said the current situation "lays bare a really nuanced understanding of the role of the police."

"You have to sort of ask yourself: How are you going to get to a place where you have a police department that people respect and that has earned the trust of the community, but it's still actually effective at reducing gun violence, which is the thing that plagues a lot of these neighborhoods," Kapustin said. "And we're so far right now from getting that figured out."

Thousands demonstrating annually in Chicago for gun control (something, incidentally which has been a mainstay of the Daily Show since the Jon Stewart days and still is today). Constant calls from the left to invest in communities, and in community action, while the grassroots movements which do exist and try to engage on the ground with gang members to effectively reduce violence are under-funded. Anger at these underlying causes and how they are not being addressed, as Republicans and Democrats play out their political games at the city versus state level, is also central to the entire protest movement that is going on. 18 murders in one day is terrible: the people protesting want community investment that helps to reduce the hundreds and hundreds annually, but they're not getting that. So, if they don't protest, nothing changes and the communities remain war zone slums where kids have no prospects but easy access to guns and gang life. But, if they do protest, they get blamed for diverting police attention away from these communities (which in any case are badly policed). Literally damned if you do, damned if you don't. The government does not care about these communities, that is what is very clear, that is what the protests are fundamentally about. And who you refer to as the liberals, for all their faults, this is the button they bang at more than any other: poverty.

We're actually getting somewhere here. I agree with all of the above. How then does the villification of 800k policepeople across the United States help with any of this. How does washing people's feet and ridiculous kangaroo courts help this? Most decent minded people want this to change. I'd wonder if the outrage artists will ever be happy though? And while I agree that you're damned if you do and damned if you don't from a community perspective, I would also say the opposite applies. Underpaid police people working in conditions you'd hesitate at sending a Navy Seal into, filmed, assaulted, spat on, constant, unending intimidation. Surely there's got to be someone in the African American community that can bridge the gap here without being labelled an Uncle Tom or whatever other underhanded suggestions are thrown at them. Coleman Hughes that McLove refers to there, a very balanced, educated, well thought out guy, but probably too much of each to be widely accepted.

We've stopped accepting stereotypical and demeaning roles for women in Hollywood supposedly(billions of porn videos don't seem to come under any scrutiny of course). When do black actors and rap artists stop reinforcing every negative stereotype related to their community. If it's going to be a left sided approach, then surely community and society is where changes need to happen, instead of always waiting for some move from above.

[Pedrito]

https://youtu.be/UPiNiTwf5bM

Listening to these lads at the minute.  An interesting and very much against the grain stance to hold within the American black community I'm sure,  but it's good to see there are some sensible people on both sides trying to unpick some of the nuttiness that various factions of society seem tangled in.

He's a smart chap. The discussion about the racist incident at 10.30 mins is a great example of people finding racism where no racism exists. Compensation culture then comes into play and some joe soap security guard loses his job for simply doing his job.

[Mower Liberation Front]

An LA Galaxy player sacked because his WIFE criticised BLM on twitter.

Yet the same people who demanded his sacking were the ones losing their shit a couple of years ago when the Ravens pulled out of a pretty much done deal with Kaepernick, after his missus called the owner a slave driver and Ray Lewis (their greatest player) an Uncle Tom.

[Caomhaoin]

Hardly surprising though, after that Maya Forstater got sacked for saying a man can't become a woman, biologically. At her industrial tribunal, the judge upheld her sacking, saying her views were 'not deserving of respect in a democratic society'.

Comply with the left's narrative or die.