The Donald vs Big Tech

[Bürggermeister]

Yeah, now an elite paedophile ring run out of a pizza shop doesn't seem like a bad compromise for some general global stability, wha!

[Ducky]

You just beat me to that one. How in the name of fuck does this man keep doing stupider shit?

He's surrounded himself with enablers, and has an equally stupid, rabid fanbase clapping like lobotomised seals for him.

[Eoin McLove]

Outlandish carry on. Not remotely surprising, but completely fucking demented.

[open face surgery]

Iran have said there's no ceasefire agreement.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

They've "been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing" 

https://bsky.app/profile/maks23.bsky.social/post/3lsdxklmvb22g

[The Heretic]

Ahh, the mask slips (as if he had one that we couldn't see through anyway)

[Pat Twisted Wrath]

"So let me see if I got this right: he's saying he just raw-dogged the Constitution in order to start a war against one country that doesn't know what the fuck they're doing, on behalf of another country that doesn't know what the fuck they're doing".

 

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

"If you look at the end of the Civil War -- the 1800s, it was a very turbulent time. If you take the end day -- was it 1869? Or whatever."

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lslzwd3nc22q

It must be so liberating knowing your target audience will let you away with absolutely anything 

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Trump standards are just whether it has negative repercussions for him personally, which this may not. I presume there has already been a wave of MAGA who were isolationists up until yesterday but have suddenly seen the light about why this strike was "necessary"/"beneficial"?

[Mooncat]

I see the US has just revoked Bob Vylan's US visas after their Glastonbury performance. They've also been condemned by the PM, Glastonbury themselves, dropped by their agency, and the local police there have started an investigation. I've never seen anything like this before where so many institutions worldwide have been so openly in support of a genocide and move so fast to take action against people speaking out, it's utterly unbelievable.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The atmosphere is sick. But given that atmosphere, which has been the case for over a year and a half now, it was a really dumb thing to get the crowd to chant, for two reasons: 1) Because it was obviously going to fall back on them like a ton of bricks, but more importantly because; 2) it was obviously going to be latched onto and turned into the story by all the defenders/supporters of Bibi and the IDF, taking focus off the actual concrete nature of the crimes. The consequences they'll face are beyond all reasonable measure with what they said/did and why, but it was a worse than pointless gesture even with regards to those it was presumably supposed to help. Describing any number of heinous documented IDF crimes and getting that broadcast live on the BBC would have been more useful.

Who knows though, maybe something good will somehow come of it...?

[astfgyl]

I see the US has just revoked Bob Vylan's US visas after their Glastonbury performance. They've also been condemned by the PM, Glastonbury themselves, dropped by their agency, and the local police there have started an investigation. I've never seen anything like this before where so many institutions worldwide have been so openly in support of a genocide and move so fast to take action against people speaking out, it's utterly unbelievable.

Definitely nothing to do with money anyway, it must be a moral thing surely

[Mooncat]

The atmosphere is sick. But given that atmosphere, which has been the case for over a year and a half now, it was a really dumb thing to get the crowd to chant, for two reasons: 1) Because it was obviously going to fall back on them like a ton of bricks, but more importantly because; 2) it was obviously going to be latched onto and turned into the story by all the defenders/supporters of Bibi and the IDF, taking focus off the actual concrete nature of the crimes. The consequences they'll face are beyond all reasonable measure with what they said/did and why, but it was a worse than pointless gesture even with regards to those it was presumably supposed to help. Describing any number of heinous documented IDF crimes and getting that broadcast live on the BBC would have been more useful.

Who knows though, maybe something good will somehow come of it...?

I thought the specific chant of, "Death to the IDF" was especially dumb. Hard to be anti-genocide when you're actively also doing death chants. Like you say, just giving ammo to the opposition.

[Ollkiller]

Seemingly a chant against a death squad is worse than the existence of a death squad.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Waiting for anyone to go "too far" and then making that the story is Bibi and the entire global Israel lobby's core strategy. Sometimes they provoke that into happening (e.g. maintaining Hamas in power in Gaza, ignoring settler violence, aggressing Iran, goading journalists, etc.), sometimes they don't have to. But wherever there's even a suspicion of response going "too far", that's what the story will instantly be about. So I don't think there's anything wrong with what he said, no more than if he'd said "Death to the UVF", y'know    Just looks to me like a net negative impact, so not a smart action in terms of "the cause" and knowing your enemy.