Look at how they shit the bed over blue hair. An insurrection? You'd never hear the end of it.

I agree you absolutely wouldn't. They'd also make on like it was the end of the world but if it went the exact same way it really wouldn't be

Regarding the "Iran could have a nuke within weeks" schtick... yeah, there's a whiff of Saddam's WMDs going on. The chat show monologues from the US are quite on point at the moment


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q08a7BI9XI

I think 1995 is the earliest vid of him saying, at that stage, that they were two or three years away from it. Which, according to US intelligence, is where they actually are now

Disabling Iran's nuclear capability, regardless of what exact stage it is at, is probably a good thing. No? 

That's a non- partisan observation.

This is a regime change effort under the guise of destroying WMDs. We've been here before.

Quote from: Eoin McLove on June 20, 2025, 01:12:31 AMDisabling Iran's nuclear capability, regardless of what exact stage it is at, is probably a good thing. No? 

That's a non- partisan observation.

That's if they had nuclear capability. The international atomic agency said they weren't developing a bomb. The USA's own intelligence said they weren't anywhere near developing a bomb. And they were in talks last week about a new deal until Israel attacked them. Big whiff of Iraq WMD about it.
What could be a good consequence would be the removal of the current regime so Iran could go back to the vibrant country it once was.

Disabling Israel's nuclear capability would probably be a better thing tbh

Quote from: Ollkiller on June 20, 2025, 07:52:25 AM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on June 20, 2025, 01:12:31 AMDisabling Iran's nuclear capability, regardless of what exact stage it is at, is probably a good thing. No? 

That's a non- partisan observation.

What could be a good consequence would be the removal of the current regime so Iran could go back to the vibrant country it once was.

Who knows exactly what the truth of it is but I agree with that last point


Quote from: Eoin McLove on June 20, 2025, 01:12:31 AMDisabling Iran's nuclear capability, regardless of what exact stage it is at, is probably a good thing. No? 

That's a non- partisan observation.

If they were serious about nukes they would be all over N Korea like a rash, fat boy basically told them to stick it up their hole, the US always pick on weaker countries, they are hypocrites and bully boys of the western world and have zero credibility at this stage to lecture anyone.

To say nothing of the fact the regime is a direct consequence of the US interfering for its own interests. One of the most fucked-with countries of the last century.

Yep, also Saddam was fully supported by the US to keep Iran in line until he got above his station then they fucked him over (he was also a bad cunt granted but it was ok when he was doing their bidding), they then left Iraq in a fucking mess with no plan B, then look at Afghanistan, fuck me when you think about it all. 

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Israel has never even openly admitted it has nukes and so, along with three other countries (India, Pakistan, and South Sudan), has never signed the non-proliferation treaty either. In fact, contrary to the very notion of non-proliferation which most UN states, incl the US, signed up to in 1970, Israel collaborated with apartheid South Africa throughout the 1970s to help them attain to nuclear power status. The US also did fuck all to stop Pakistan attaining to nuclear power status because, at the time, they saw them as an ally against Afghanistan/Soviet Russia. So yeah, in a nutshell, preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons is definitely more about politics than genuine fears of existential threat. The overarching existential threat is still there in the fact that there are nuclear weapons at all, and, personally, the country I trust the least with having them just happens to be the one country who doesn't admit to having them, all while obsessively claiming that neighbouring nations, who don't have them, either do (Iraq) or are just about to (Iran).

Edit 'cos that all leaves one question in suspense: the apartheid government dismantled its nuclear weapons just before handover to the ANC. South Africa then signed the non-proliferation treaty in 1991 and were a party to the treaty on the prohibition of nuclear weapons in 2017, the only former nuclear power to do so. The only former nuclear power, full stop.