Apart from the died in the wool (and brains) Trump acolytes, I wonder what the middle voters in the states are making of all this stuff. It's a big overcorrection, and are we going to see an equally big overcorrection in the other direction next time out? SUPERANTIFA! NOW EVEN MORE RETARDED!!  :laugh: Ban everything and take it from there.

I still think that something had to be gone horribly wrong somewhere before anyone would think Trump was a viable option for anything

Fox News is the most watched media outlet in the US and it spews non-stop bullshit which is nevertheless taken at face value around the world. It's not the only thing that was "horribly wrong" with the country, but it is objectively top of the list. Propaganda got them and us here, far more than anything real about "the left"

It was all sort of authoritarian though. Covid turned people away from centrism but to be fair it's looking a lot more authoritarian from the freedom crowd now and they seem okay with that which I find weird. The whole point of everything I was ever giving out about was freedom as long as it hurt nobody and that's looking as far away as it ever did

#4849 May 17, 2025, 01:47:05 PM Last Edit: May 17, 2025, 02:26:51 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
You got taken in by enormous amounts of MAGA-aligned propaganda. Lots of what you ended up believing about Covid came from sources no more credible than RFK, for example.

There's a simple test for this: if you recognize that what's happening now is genuinely authoritarian, that's because it is tangibly different to how things were being done previously. This contrast alone tells you that what was happening under Biden was not authoritarian. So logically, anyone telling you back then that it was authoritarian was pushing propaganda on you and if you ended up agreeing with it, you got taken in. And now several of the most flagrant propagandizing media heads are sitting in some of the highest positions of government.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 17, 2025, 01:14:32 PMFox News is the most watched media outlet in the US and it spews non-stop bullshit which is nevertheless taken at face value around the world. It's not the only thing that was "horribly wrong" with the country, but it is objectively top of the list. Propaganda got them and us here, far more than anything real about "the left"

Doesn't Fox also carefully edit clips of Trump speaking so the viewers don't get the full rambling spastic experience??

Quote from: Born of Fire on May 17, 2025, 02:02:27 PMDoesn't Fox also carefully edit clips of Trump speaking so the viewers don't get the full rambling spastic experience??

I imagine that's a given.

It was like that in Ireland as well though, take the shot or you can't do anything. That turned a lot of people in a lot of places, maga or no maga
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 17, 2025, 01:47:05 PMYou got taken in by enormous amounts of MAGA-aligned propaganda. Lots of what you ended up believing about Covid came from sources no more credible than RFK, for example.

There's a simple test for this: if you recognize that what's happening now is genuinely authoritarian, that's because it is tangibly different to how things were being done previously. This contrast alone tells you that what was happening under Biden was not authoritarian. So logically, anyone telling you back then that it was authoritarian was pushing propaganda on you and if you ended up agreeing with it, you got taken in. And now several of the most flagrant propagandizing media heads are sitting in some of the highest positions of government.

Irish MAGA. Have a look at what other causes the loudest Irish, British, French, etc., etc., anti-vax voices have chimed in with.

Quote from: Born of Fire on May 17, 2025, 02:02:27 PMDoesn't Fox also carefully edit clips of Trump speaking so the viewers don't get the full rambling spastic experience??

The section starting at around 11:35 here, about what has happened to the FCC under Trump, leads into a section about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07JQr5W3970

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 18, 2025, 10:45:08 AMIrish MAGA. Have a look at what other causes the loudest Irish, British, French, etc., etc., anti-vax voices have chimed in with.

Irish MAGA is hilarious isn't it :laugh:

You see that annoyed me at the time that I was also lumped in with a load of spastics because I just believed in the freedom of choice and I really didn't mind what anyone else did at all as long as I was left alone but the only dissenting voices were also into a load of fucking stupid stuff, but anyway I think that thing and how it made room for the crankiest voices in the room certainly helped this fucking head the ball get in again when all that was needed was a bit of centrism or maybe a half credible opponent and he'd be long gone by now.

Ah well the world is stuck with him now for however long. Wouldn't put it past him making himself president for life or something before his time is up

Donnie Jr's tweet. Being fed feet-first into a wood chipper would be too kind for this sack of shit.

Quote from: Ducky on May 19, 2025, 02:37:58 PMDonnie Jr's tweet. Being fed feet-first into a wood chipper would be too kind for this sack of shit.

Dosent understand that Bidens wife Jill is not a medical doctor. He's some tool.

Yup. He's like a lobotomised monkey slinging shit. Truly one of the dumbest cunts out there.

Just saw the latest tweet from the white house there and it actually made me a small bit dumber for having witnessed it. Playing to the Q crowd no less