Oooooohhhh... in a time where sinister goings on have become normalised, that is especially sinister.

I don't get it. Would most countries not have a register of who is autistic or not? I suppose it would be anonymous in other places, or should be anyway.

I'm surprised myself at how many people who were against the likes of the world economic forum are now quite happy to have their privacy taken away because the orange boy and his minions are the ones doing it.

Mad stuff really

RFK is a drugged out mentaller, and they're happy to weaponise this sort of shit.

Quote from: astfgyl on April 23, 2025, 08:41:49 AMI'm surprised myself at how many people who were against the likes of the world economic forum are now quite happy to have their privacy taken away because the orange boy and his minions are the ones doing it.

And how many people who were crying "Lock her up!" over Hilary's emails are now defending Hegseth exporting information of the highest state classification level onto his private phone and then sharing it with friends and family and random journalists.

They're brainwashed, plain and simple. They fell for "the enemy of the DNC is my friend." The only thing I'm still surprised by is how anyone benefiting from the distance of not being a US citizen let themselves get pulled into the same bullshit.

RFK thinks autism is a result of vaccines. At best, this is just utilising the condition to wage war on vaccinations. At worst, who fucken knows what the wacko will do? He has pledged to find the cause of Autism by September.

QuoteWe're going to look at vaccines, but we're going to look at everything," Kennedy later said during an interview with Fox News about the scope of the undertaking. "Everything is on the table, our food system, our water, our air, different ways of parenting, all the kind of changes that may have triggered this epidemic."
In a statement the Autism Society of America called Kennedy's plan "harmful, misleading, and unrealistic".
"It is neither a chronic illness nor a contagion," the society said.
Christopher Banks, the society's president, questioned whether the research efforts would be transparent and said claims that autism is solely caused by environmental factors were "misleading theories (which) perpetuate harmful stigma, jeopardize public health, and distract from the critical needs of the autism community."
Kennedy has also alarmed some over his hiring of David Geier, who has been described by some as a conspiracy theorist, to research vaccines and autism, and on Thursday Democrats in the US House of Representatives wrote to HHS "to express our urgent concern" over the selection of "a biased and discredited individual".
Geier is a leading vaccine sceptic who was fined by the state of Maryland for practicing medicine without a medical degree or licence and prescribing dangerous treatments to autistic children.
The discredited idea that childhood vaccines are linked to autism first gained mainstream attention after a paper published in 1998 in the medical journal The Lancet by British doctor Andrew Wakefield.
Wakefield was later found to have financial conflicts of interest and the UK's General Medical Council found that he falsified his results. The research paper was retracted.

There's not much of an "at best" when "anti-vax" is being combined with "pro-natalism" (as not only MAGA as a whole, but also RFK individually is doing): infant mortality rates will go up, especially among resource deprived populations.

The anti vax thing is fucked. Really fucking backwards bullshit. As I've said before, I think pro-natalism isn't necessarily bad, but maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture. I think the apocalyptic messaging around climate change has spread unhealthy amounts of fear and despair into the minds of younger generations and having a more optimistic view of the future, of humanity, and trying to remind people that having a family is in fact normal and positive is worthwhile. Obviously when the message becomes a political football it gets silly, but as with most subjects there is a level of reasonableness that is potentially useful. In my Nazi opinion, of course.


Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on April 23, 2025, 10:58:25 AM
Quote from: astfgyl on April 23, 2025, 08:41:49 AMI'm surprised myself at how many people who were against the likes of the world economic forum are now quite happy to have their privacy taken away because the orange boy and his minions are the ones doing it.

And how many people who were crying "Lock her up!" over Hilary's emails are now defending Hegseth exporting information of the highest state classification level onto his private phone and then sharing it with friends and family and random journalists.

They're brainwashed, plain and simple. They fell for "the enemy of the DNC is my friend." The only thing I'm still surprised by is how anyone benefiting from the distance of not being a US citizen let themselves get pulled into the same bullshit.

Well I thought the Republicans talked a good game but hindsight is 20/20. Still reckon anyone but Harris or indeed Biden would have won against trump and I don't think she lost because of the democratic party itself, more that she just gave the impression she didn't know what she was doing or had no policies. Now I did read  her manifesto after ollkiller pointed me to it, and it wasn't bad either but I doubt many would believe that she wrote it.

The yanks really do seem to double down on their politics in the face of everything to be fair, but surely there's a lot has happened since the inauguration that has made at least some of them wonder how they've ended up with this shit.

I wonder has he done anything good at all yet? I'm not seeing anything about it if he did

As for the vaccines and autism thing..

Like anything it's worth looking at but I don't ever think that could be definitively linked at all at all. It's just as likely to be absolutely anything else you can think of and there's no way rfk is going to find the cause by September whatsoever. He's talking shite there.

The worst thing that ever happened regarding vaccines was covid and it wasn't even the products themselves as far as I can see, it was just that lots of people, including me, don't like being forced to do certain things. Leaving it entirely voluntary would have left all the anti stuff where it was all along and nobody would be thinking about it

Quote from: astfgyl on April 23, 2025, 01:56:03 PMI doubt many would believe that she wrote it.

Sometimes I honestly don't know if you're joking or not  :laugh:

#4736 April 23, 2025, 04:12:15 PM Last Edit: April 23, 2025, 04:15:57 PM by Ducky
Yeah the vaccine thing is worth looking at. Which is precisely why it has been looked at repeatedly and no link has been found.

As for the pro-natalism thing, I don't think climate change is the big factor driving the birthrate down. It's more to do with the global housing crisis, cost of living, shit job prospects, childcare costs, etc. A lot of younger people see raising kids in such an unstable social and economic climate as a bad move, especially when they can barely navigate it themselves.

Saw this recently and it gave me a chuckle at how accurate it is...

QuoteI just love the idea that if news of asbestos being problematic was released today, a subset of people would post up pics of them sleeping in it or snorting it or something

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on April 23, 2025, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on April 23, 2025, 01:56:03 PMI doubt many would believe that she wrote it.

Sometimes I honestly don't know if you're joking or not  :laugh:

No, I played that one straight. I mean you'd believe that Trump thought of whatever he's saying all by himself, for better or worse, but her manifesto was in direct contradiction with everything about her visible personality.

Quote from: Ducky on April 23, 2025, 04:12:15 PMYeah the vaccine thing is worth looking at. Which is precisely why it has been looked at repeatedly and no link has been found.

As for the pro-natalism thing, I don't think climate change is the big factor driving the birthrate down. It's more to do with the global housing crisis, cost of living, shit job prospects, childcare costs, etc. A lot of younger people see raising kids in such an unstable social and economic climate as a bad move, especially when they can barely navigate it themselves.

Saw this recently and it gave me a chuckle at how accurate it is...

QuoteI just love the idea that if news of asbestos being problematic was released today, a subset of people would post up pics of them sleeping in it or snorting it or something


Honestly I don't know how much that has been looked at as I haven't read anything for or against vaccines since the covid days but I think even looking at it is fairly pointless because there's too many other possible factors. It's just as likely to be food colouring or tap water or god knows what

Thankfully those who actually do autism research don't get discouraged so easily.