Trump wants all mineral rights. Russia keeps the territory its claimed. Ukraine to hold elections and declare Russia the non aggressor. Ukraine then gets zero security guarantees. Fuck sake seems tame bring in a room with those two.

On the 14000 killed in the 2014 war and thereafter. 6500 Russian amd russian proxy forces, 4400 Ukrainian forces and 3400 civilians. Didn't russian separatists start that? Curious on that

Quote from: Caomhaoin on March 04, 2025, 05:22:55 PMHe said two words. They're clearly audible.

Did you watch the whole video?

It's funny and somewhat predictable that those against Zelensky will pick out 2 mumbled words, borne out of pure frustration, and paint them in the same light as the bullying barrage that those other 2 cunts were raining down on him.

It's also quite the consistent script with the anti-Ukraine side that the average person "just hasn't looked back far enough" to when this all started and who is REALLY to blame. It's the Ukraine war equivalent to "I did the research" with respect to covid/vaccines.

The situation is an absolute disaster, and finger pointing solves nothing anyway.

From the Russian perspective, there was a CIA coup against the pro Moscow president, repression of the Russian language (Zelenskyy is a native Russian speaker), the Ukrainians shelling etc. It doesn't excuse the Russian invasion, and the graveyards are full here boys.

What do we have now, 50 year old Ukrainians who don't want to be there holding back he Russian army? Whatever moral position you take, Ukraine will never win. Might be unpalatable but that's the case.

Hate trump as much as you want, at least the cunt wants to stop further pointless loss of life.

Quote from: The Great Cull on March 04, 2025, 05:41:54 PM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on March 04, 2025, 05:22:55 PMHe said two words. They're clearly audible.

Did you watch the whole video?

It's funny and somewhat predictable that those against Zelensky will pick out 2 mumbled words, borne out of pure frustration, and paint them in the same light as the bullying barrage that those other 2 cunts were raining down on him.

It's also quite the consistent script with the anti-Ukraine side that the average person "just hasn't looked back far enough" to when this all started and who is REALLY to blame. It's the Ukraine war equivalent to "I did the research" with respect to covid/vaccines.

Look, watch the whole video if you have time. I'm pro myself and ending it.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on March 04, 2025, 05:22:55 PMHe said two words. They're clearly audible.

Did you watch the whole video?

Yes, I did watch the whole video. And I know he is said to have said two words. Not speaking Russian or Ukrainian, I can't make them out very well myself, but I'm told it is these two words:
https://learntherussianlanguage.com/cyka-blyat/

QuoteWhenever you hear a Russian scream cyka blyat, he's saying the English equivalent of:

    Damn
    Fuck
    Shit

Not quite, but sure lookit.

Zelenskyy doesn't speak very good Ukrainian, certainly not to native level, he spoke in Russian (as you or I would as Irish speakers would in English ).

Who gives a fuck?

Peace will come at a cost, as it always does. If this Starmer lad could shut the fuck up in an effort to prolong it.

So how about, instead of just vaguely alluding to shit, you state the points you want to make as clearly as you can. The whole video, the whole video, okay, but just for those two Russian words or is there something else? And "not quite, but sure lookit", well then what is it "quite"? I went to a source that was older than the story on purpose, so that the translation given spontaneously wouldn't be coloured by the events happening. And there it is: damn, fuck, shit.

I speak Russian,and have lived here for almost 2 years but I can't explain its intricacies to you right now. Tough fucking language.

I mean, we're just two assholes posting on the internet after all.

As for the whole video, Zelenskyy clearly started the argument.

I'd translate it as 'fucking bitch'

Because that's what you want it to mean in the context.

Where do you place the beginning of the argument? Decent amount of a full transcript here, but if you think the trigger is outside of this lengthy section, then just say where:
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/russia-ukraine-war/read-full-transcript-of-heated-exchange-between-trump-zelenskyy-vance-at-oval-office/3496679

Just saying at as I saw it.

I live in Russia, it doesn't mean I back one side or the other.

Why would I read the transcript when I saw the entire thing?

I think Zelenskyy started, you disagree.

Move on.


I'm not asking you to read the transcript, I'm providing it to help you show us where you believe Zelenskyy "clearly started the argument." Do you mean here, for example?

Quote from: ZelenskyyWhat kind of diplomacy JD you are speaking about? What do you mean?

Yeah whatever lad.

We should go to Sligo again.

On the market again for a bit on the side?  :P  :laugh: