How do people not notice that Musk is a con-man, a snake oil merchant, a charlatan and a fraud?

I think he's a complicated dude. With Space X he has helped to reinvigorate and make improvements to the American space program. With Tesla he has helped to make electric cars mainstream and between that and some of his more eccentric ideas, like building underground highways in cities ruined by gridlock he has been coming up with strategies to help reduce carbon emissions. But he has is complicated side too it seems. No doubt he has a huge ego and is a bit strange, but at least he is doing stuff.

Quote from: Eoin McLove on July 26, 2024, 12:33:08 PMI think he's a complicated dude. With Space X he has helped to reinvigorate and make improvements to the American space program. With Tesla he has helped to make electric cars mainstream and between that and some of his more eccentric ideas, like building underground highways in cities ruined by gridlock he has been coming up with strategies to help reduce carbon emissions. But he has is complicated side too it seems. No doubt he has a huge ego and is a bit strange, but at least he is doing stuff.

I think that sums him up pretty well...

Jaysus, as far as I can see the stuff he's doing is making outrageous claims and telling blatant lies with regard to Teslas engineering prowess in order to pull in investor money and artificially inflate Teslas share price.
He has set back the Yank moon project by years. The electric car scam, based on government subsidy, is falling apart. the Tunnel in Las Vagas is a joke, the boring company is total bollox.
Hyperloop - complete fiction
Robo taxi - total wank
How's that Mars colony going there Musky boy?
Where's the roadster? (an impossible dream)
"I think, at this point, I know more about manufacturing than anyone alive on Earth today" he proclaimed. Enter the Cyber truck.
Tell ya one thing, if I had shares in Tesla I'd be selling them immediately, His days are numbered.

Haniyeh, head of Hamas, killed in Tehran. Big news, though not clear it'll have a big impact on the ongoing situation in Gaza.

Israel carrying out an execution in Iran won't go down very well at all, I imagine.

Prob not, although it was in this case a genuinely targeted strike: seems to have been only Haniyeh and a bodyguard taken out. But yeah, hopefully no one decides to make an Archduke Ferdinand moment out of it.

I'd imagine if anything it would make things worse as I'm sure there's plenty of lads willing to stand up and take his place. As was said above, I'd hope it didn't kick off another whole front of a war in the region as it's bad enough already. The only real winners in anything appear to be the weapons manufacturers

Iran will do fuck all. They'll sabre rattle and might do a token response but they know they can't enter a proper war with Israel. They'll just keep the proxy war going.

Hopefully that is it. Everything in the world these days feels like it's going to escalate to something

Quote from: astfgyl on July 31, 2024, 04:38:41 PMHopefully that is it. Everything in the world these days feels like it's going to escalate to something

It's the 80s pt.2 except without all the good thrash

Saw a story doing the rounds that Google searches for Trump assassination attempt were showing no results and that Facebook was removing the famous picture of him. So i checked it out myself and it was true in Google search the other day. Now I dunno about Facebook but I just searched him up there again with Google search and it appears to be back to normal now, after being highlighted.

Also I dunno about the ins and outs of how that happened but it's fairly relevant to the thread anyway and I was thinking it would be a bit of an own goal to do that because it would only reinforce the idea that the mainstream tech giants are conspiring against him

Quote from: Mooncat on July 31, 2024, 04:48:28 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on July 31, 2024, 04:38:41 PMHopefully that is it. Everything in the world these days feels like it's going to escalate to something

It's the 80s pt.2 except without all the good thrash

With any luck it will lead into some 90s style revival of the good times, although it's hard to see that at the moment


'80s thrash? Good times? Tenuous link:


#3403 July 31, 2024, 05:43:39 PM Last Edit: July 31, 2024, 05:45:39 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
Quote from: astfgyl on July 31, 2024, 05:07:26 PMSaw a story doing the rounds that Google searches for Trump assassination attempt were showing no results

The Google claim was only about the autocomplete recommendations that come up as you type into the search bar though, right? Hardly censorship, unless we're accounting for people who wanted to look it up but couldn't remember his name. Facebook was a bit more on the nose, something about election interference or something, which is also a reason chatgpt, co-pilot, etc., can be strange on certain topical political issues.

Funny though how it's turned out to be the most instantly forgettable presidential assassination attempt of all time. Even from Trump's point of view, only that photo is useful to him; the wider context, who the shooter was, who owned the gun, etc., doesn't help his campaign at all. If anything, the contrary.

It was the search bar indeed and I tried that and when I did, one of the suggestions was "Assassination attempt on tr" so it looks pretty bad. I did read that Alphabet were the top donors to the Biden campaign in 2020 so it wouldn't be a mad stretch either. Yeah it's mad as well how quickly it fell out of the news cycle but I'd imagine the Secret Service don't want to talk too much about it over the incompetence of them and a large part of the US media is openly against Trump too. I think a lot more would be made of it if it wasn't an election year or he was already in. As for Chatgpt, I played the game of asking it things and it is extremely politically biased but it is easily defeated by asking it to play a character who does answer those questions.

I didn't hear anything about who owned the gun but I see the owner of Gab saying that the FBI requested an account they thought belonged to the shooter and that if it does turn out to be him, he seems pretty pro-Biden overall. I haven't seen the account, just the statement about it. I have a Gab account myself and could look but Gab's all a bit one sided in general for my liking and I haven't looked at in at least 3 years, much like my Reddit account.