Always thought Trump would win over Biden on age/health reasons alone (not that Trump doesn't have the same issues, just not as immediately pressing as Bidens was), then the assassination attempt I think has sealed his victory now no matter what the Democrats do. They will go with Harris now with a "uniting everyone" slogan but she'll feck that up completely. She is not particularly likeable and her past record is pretty shite for a Democrat. America going full red in November.

I don't know how many US citizens in those famous swing states will find it impossible to vote for a non-white woman + gay man ticket, but if the DNC market researchers do the numbers and think it doesn't spell certain defeat on that basis alone (the US being the US) then Harris and Buttigieg could probably pull a decent campaign out of the bag. Buttigieg is more than a match for Trump's VP pick anyway. Harris is very odd though, behavior-wise; doesn't at all have a presence that inspires the kind of solid as a rock, build your house on it certainty that would be the perfect contrast to Trump. An Obama 2.0, for example, would take this election no problem. I don't mean because I think Obama is/was a wonderful man in terms of moral integrity, just in terms of presence, optics, etc., y'know, the bullshit that wins elections.

Would Michelle Obama be a good pick?


Quote from: Eoin McLove on July 22, 2024, 12:07:30 PMOr Harvey Weinstein?

:laugh:  :laugh:

I reckon Michelle would be a good pick, but I can't see it being suggested that she replace Harris. Who knows though.


Quote from: Ollkiller on July 22, 2024, 11:58:32 AMWould Michelle Obama be a good pick?

Thankfully Big Mike already said no a few months ago.

As mentioned, hard to imagine that there won't be a lot of undecided Americans who would find it difficult to vote for a woman of colour. A lot of people who wouldn't have voted for Trump may just not vote at all now.

It sure is a perfect time to have a strong candidate step in and stand out in this mess, only problem being there just isn't a strong candidate right now.

Interestingly, it doesn't overly feel like the assassination attempt has galvanized anyone who wasn't already in Trump's corner. It'll be a tight election; the democrats are a shambles, but nobody with any sense wants to go through all the Trump bullshit again so it'll be interesting to see what voter turnout is like.

Quote from: The Butcher on July 22, 2024, 09:54:32 AMAlways thought Trump would win over Biden on age/health reasons alone (not that Trump doesn't have the same issues, just not as immediately pressing as Bidens was), then the assassination attempt I think has sealed his victory now no matter what the Democrats do. They will go with Harris now with a "uniting everyone" slogan but she'll feck that up completely. She is not particularly likeable and her past record is pretty shite for a Democrat. America going full red in November.

She's meant to be a legend for sucking pipe though, that might play out well in the sticks  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 22, 2024, 12:39:43 AMThe right candidate and the right campaign could use the moment to their advantage. Biden and Trump are a dream set-up in terms of conditions to make the right candidate appear dazzlingly competent by contrast. For the moment though, I haven't seen anyone suggested who fits the description of "right candidate."

This was my thoughts on it but I see no centrist mentioned yet

Quote from: mickO))) on July 22, 2024, 01:04:35 PM
Quote from: Ollkiller on July 22, 2024, 11:58:32 AMWould Michelle Obama be a good pick?

Thankfully Big Mike already said no a few months ago.

The Big Mike label is not going away, is it  :laugh:

Quote from: astfgyl on July 22, 2024, 06:45:22 PM
Quote from: The Butcher on July 22, 2024, 09:54:32 AMAlways thought Trump would win over Biden on age/health reasons alone (not that Trump doesn't have the same issues, just not as immediately pressing as Bidens was), then the assassination attempt I think has sealed his victory now no matter what the Democrats do. They will go with Harris now with a "uniting everyone" slogan but she'll feck that up completely. She is not particularly likeable and her past record is pretty shite for a Democrat. America going full red in November.

She's meant to be a legend for sucking pipe though, that might play out well in the sticks  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

The new Nancy Reagan?

Yup, the kind of MAGA folk who demonstrably have zero problem with and sometimes even applaud self-confessed and convicted sexual assault by a powerful man are cackling wildly over a powerful woman's consensual acts and using them to try to disqualify her. This is probably the sort of stuff Chuck would be writing lyrics about were he still alive  :laugh:  :abbath:

That bodycam footage of Sonya Massey being shot dead by a cop in her own kitchen after calling 911 herself is fucking grim. What a literally retarded nation it is.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 22, 2024, 11:08:57 PMYup, the kind of MAGA folk who demonstrably have zero problem with and sometimes even applaud self-confessed and convicted sexual assault by a powerful man are cackling wildly over a powerful woman's consensual acts and using them to try to disqualify her. This is probably the sort of stuff Chuck would be writing lyrics about were he still alive  :laugh:  :abbath:

Woman has sex in a consensual relationship. A witch I tell ya. Burn her. Usual misogynistic crap.

So is Harris the candidate now or does anyone have to vote for it or anything like that? What a week, Trump gets his ear pierced and Biden is out on his ear. Tis like an Eastenders christmas special