Quote from: astfgyl on August 18, 2022, 04:42:49 PMhttps://twitter.com/alexandrosM/status/1560061984699064320

Thought this was interesting in highlighting that one side is as bad as the other in the US. There's more in the rest of the thread reinforcing the same conclusion. We don't care if he's bad if he's bad on our side sort of mentality. I'm sure we have similar here already too but the US should be our canary before we end up there. I still think the laptop was underwhelming though.

And in the interest of fairness, here's his clarification or attempt at defending the indefensible depending on what way one wants to look at it https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/1560339121863684098

One side against the other? Sam Harris is just an individual talking shite, he doesn't represent Democrats any more than Alex Jones represents Republicans. Oh wait...

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That's pretty much how it's headlined. I thought he was like the left's answer to Jordan Petersen or something like that. I dunno much about him but I hear tell he wrote some book about not telling lies and now he's fine with telling lies. It's pretty funny and ironic if it's true. I wonder where all the centrists are at? Probably hiding under the stairs rocking back and forth with their hands clutching their knees after voting for old Joe. There's a real opening for some centrists right now I reckon.

There are plenty centrists they're just decried as far right Nazis like everyone else.

I was looking at a graph lately which illustrated that same point very well. Basically I feel the same as I ever did but now instead of being sort of left of centre I'm far right. Some world.

The funny thing is that if I open any of the Irish newspapers I could swear the country had turned into some sort of woke nightmare. Nobody I've ever met ever parrots these views.

Bang on. Nobody actually thinks that shit in real life. Not even the black shepherd. Well maybe...  :P

Again, don't let the media, including social media, tell you what's going on. Left and right, originally, is about resource management, secondarily includes moral views too. Then you have an authoritarian to libertarian spectrum about how to enforce views. Many would say leftists are becoming authoritarian. Some surely are. Where do *you* stand, really? Put a wee bit of time in and approach some kind of objective guide answer:
https://www.politicalcompass.org

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Got you out of the woodwork quick there.

I don't do left and right, it's become distorted beyond belief by the media and even more so social media. I do right and wrong instead, as does almost everyone I know in real life

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 20, 2022, 03:56:15 PMhttps://www.politicalcompass.org

That yoke is pretty cool actually.

I'm at -6.38 on the economic left, and -2.0 on the social libertarian/authoritarian.

It's useful to have something of an objective view of where you are. It helps identify where anyone accusing you of being elsewhere stands. If you are centre left-strong libertarian and someone accuses you of being far right, for example, it's likely they're far left-authoritarian.

Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 20, 2022, 04:24:13 PMIt's useful to have something of an objective view of where you are. It helps identify where anyone accusing you of being elsewhere stands. If you are centre left-strong libertarian and someone accuses you of being far right, for example, it's likely they're far left-authoritarian.

Ah jaysus. I just don't want to hurt anyone

I can't wait for Kev to fill it in.

Hold up, am I in the woke quadrant? :-X