Quote from: hellfire on August 11, 2022, 07:39:30 PMI'm inclined to believe that a lot of this latest stuff is to try to slap a conviction on him so that he's knocked out of running next time. Had he not made such a pants of the covid response and then looked foolish by contracting it he'd still be residing in Pennsylvania Avenue.

Him contracting it I never had an issue with. But as you say the pants response to Covid has tainted him. Probably not in the media to the right over there but to the families of the 1 million people who died. Countless thousands would not have died had he not politized the disease. He doesn't give a fuck about anyone bar himself. As much as I loathe Bush or Reagan at least their response to a pandemic would have been different.

I think the Democrats politicised covid as much as the Republicans. Anyway I don't know if he'd get back in because he's too divisive now and a moderate candidate for either party might be what they're looking for next. No point having a president who instantly pisses off half the country by being there at all.

He'd be 78 if he did get in at the next election, you'd hope both parties would find a candidate that isn't likely to drop dead halfway through a presidency

Quote from: astfgyl on August 11, 2022, 10:10:56 PMNo point having a president who instantly pisses off half the country by being there at all.

When was the last time they had one of those??

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 11, 2022, 10:28:17 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on August 11, 2022, 10:10:56 PMNo point having a president who instantly pisses off half the country by being there at all.

When was the last time they had one of those??

 :P Not since Clinton

With Biden being as effective as a soft penis and America sliding into recession at the moment stranger things have happened than Trump regaining the presidency. A different candidate with a toned down approach and contempt for the far left would sail home.

Quote from: Ollkiller on August 11, 2022, 06:52:30 PM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on August 11, 2022, 05:00:51 PMAll this Stasi stuff is going to have the opposite of its intended effect. Trump is even more popular now than he was in 2020, they are making a martyr of him.

Happy days :)

He's actually not as popular as he was in 2020. When he lost the election the republican party should have dumped him like a hot potato and got a more moderate candidate in who would still appease the further right of the party. Would have romped home then. Trump just can't get the floating voter which is needed in an American election as there's always millions of voters who could go either way.

Sorry, you are full of it.


Quote from: Caomhaoin on August 12, 2022, 10:39:05 AM
Quote from: Ollkiller on August 11, 2022, 06:52:30 PM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on August 11, 2022, 05:00:51 PMAll this Stasi stuff is going to have the opposite of its intended effect. Trump is even more popular now than he was in 2020, they are making a martyr of him.

Happy days :)

He's actually not as popular as he was in 2020. When he lost the election the republican party should have dumped him like a hot potato and got a more moderate candidate in who would still appease the further right of the party. Would have romped home then. Trump just can't get the floating voter which is needed in an American election as there's always millions of voters who could go either way.

Sorry, you are full of it.
Quote from: Caomhaoin on August 12, 2022, 10:39:05 AM
Quote from: Ollkiller on August 11, 2022, 06:52:30 PM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on August 11, 2022, 05:00:51 PMAll this Stasi stuff is going to have the opposite of its intended effect. Trump is even more popular now than he was in 2020, they are making a martyr of him.

Happy days :)

He's actually not as popular as he was in 2020. When he lost the election the republican party should have dumped him like a hot potato and got a more moderate candidate in who would still appease the further right of the party. Would have romped home then. Trump just can't get the floating voter which is needed in an American election as there's always millions of voters who could go either way.

Sorry, you are full of it.

Wtf are you on about lad. I just gave an opinion on why a more moderate republican would win due to floating voters. How in God's name is that "full of it"

Like it or not, and not forgetting that voters from the US are mental, Trump's approval ratings have been barely impacted since 2020. A couple of fluctuations here and there, but even the Jan 6th stuff has already fizzled out. People's opinion of him will always be inflected by the wet blanket opposite him. If there was someone with a bit of character in the White House at the moment, that would have a bigger effect. People hate Biden, or at least no one really "loves" him in the way Obama and even B.Clinton prior to the scandals were loved, and Trump benefits from that.

Yeah, even in 2016 they handed him the presidency by putting him up against Hillary Clinton. A career politician mired in filth with a personality that could be described as bland on a good day.

Yeah the Democrats really screwed up throwing Biden in there, given that anyone at all (except Hilary ofc) would have prevailed. There wouldn't be any talk of a Trump comeback if they'd picked someone else although I admit Biden was on a hiding to nothing coming in with covid and a global downturn to contend with. Him and Harris are some awful laughing stock all the same.


Jesus that Boebert. Even tippex would be too clever for her

https://twitter.com/alexandrosM/status/1560061984699064320

Thought this was interesting in highlighting that one side is as bad as the other in the US. There's more in the rest of the thread reinforcing the same conclusion. We don't care if he's bad if he's bad on our side sort of mentality. I'm sure we have similar here already too but the US should be our canary before we end up there. I still think the laptop was underwhelming though.