Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 08, 2021, 11:28:32 AM
Half the people who 'hate' Big Donnie ♥️ don't even really know why they hate him.
And that, is scary....

Nail on the head. Mass hysteria. Mass brainwashing. Mass manipulation.

Question: 'Why do you go to mass every Sunday?'
Answer: 'Ehhhhhhh'


It's the exact same thing. Most people really have no idea once you dig down beyond the initial layer.

Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on January 08, 2021, 11:34:53 AM
So hold on.

Media tells people Trump bad = media responsible for drumming up hysteria, people have not made up their minds of their own volition

Trump tells people election stolen, fight, etc = Trump not responsible for what happened when his loyal supporters hang on his word

Yes I know, this is simplified and a bit dumb but I'm throwing it in, fuck it

You can make up your own mind when you actually think. When you are actually open to maybe not being given the full picture. If everything you ever see and read and hear is negative about Trump or black people or the English or whatever, then you need to step back and analyse that information. That's what an adult with a brain should do and you make your 'adult' decisions once you weigh up all the information and the consequences.

There are lads went into that building yesterday and they're not one bit sorry. And that's their perogative. They probably did far more reading and thinking and analysing of their own lives in America than we do of ours over here in Ireland/Europe. And they'll pay the price if they went overboard in the eyes of the law.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 08, 2021, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on January 08, 2021, 11:06:33 AM
There is no comparison between the weight of media bias toward Trump. Breitbart is not mainstream. There are dozens of national and multinational news outlets and corporations, talk show hosts, Hollywood ball bags and woke corporate interests like Twitter, Facebook, Google adnauseum who hate him and give an unfailing anti-Trump narrative no matter what happens.

'Yeah but what about Fox and Breitbart'? He has far, far fewer for him than against him, and that's been the case since before he won the republican primary.

Surely you can see this.

I don't see what point you're trying to make here. I'm not talking about which side has the greater bias, I'm talking about Trump having communicated more biased and false things to his supporters than any previous president. Not necessarily bigger lies, but many, many more of them, an endless stream of biasing falsehoods.

You rattle on endlessly about how the media is owned by the progressives, and yet at other times you gloat about how certain Fox presenters have the largest viewerships. It's the size of the viewership, the reach, that counts. Even if Fox was the only conservative media, which it is not, if it was reaching as many voters as the combined efforts of as many progressive media as you like, then the potential for biasing would be, in effect, level between conservative media and progressive media.

Some man for waffle.

I'm pulling you up for your ceaseless 'yeah but Fox News etc' by pointing out (clearly) that any comparisons are fallacies, but your bias means it's difficult for you to see it and impossible for you to acknowledge it.

Tucker having the highest viewership doesn't mean the liberal media is less pervasive, merely that people don't believe their bullshit when it comes to Trump.

Quote from: Pedrito on January 08, 2021, 11:40:30 AM
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on January 08, 2021, 11:34:53 AM
So hold on.

Media tells people Trump bad = media responsible for drumming up hysteria, people have not made up their minds of their own volition

Trump tells people election stolen, fight, etc = Trump not responsible for what happened when his loyal supporters hang on his word

Yes I know, this is simplified and a bit dumb but I'm throwing it in, fuck it

You can make up your own mind when you actually think. When you are actually open to maybe not being given the full picture. If everything you ever see and read and hear is negative about Trump or black people or the English or whatever, then you need to step back and analyse that information. That's what an adult with a brain should do and you make your 'adult' decisions once you weigh up all the information and the consequences.

There are lads went into that building yesterday and they're not one bit sorry. And that's their perogative. They probably did far more reading and thinking and analysing of their own lives in America than we do of ours over here in Ireland/Europe. And they'll pay the price if they went overboard in the eyes of the law.


I really love how you think that people can't make up their own mind about Trump. I look at his policies, his actions and his speeches and I've concluded he's not fit for the job. End of. His behaviour since he lost just goes to show the type of individual he is.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on January 08, 2021, 11:43:17 AM
I'm pulling you up for your ceaseless 'yeah but Fox News etc' by pointing out (clearly) that any comparisons are fallacies, but your bias means it's difficult for you to see it and impossible for you to acknowledge it.

Tucker having the highest viewership doesn't mean the liberal media is less pervasive, merely that people don't believe their bullshit when it comes to Trump.

I still don't get the point you're trying to make. What sense does it make to say that the Democrats "own" the media, if the single most popular media in the country isn't part of what they "own"?? Fox is the most watched cable outlet in the US, Fox News by far the most viewed news network...so the claim that the Democrats "own" the media is totally bogus.

You have, well then fair enough. Again, that's your opinion, you've thought about it, you're entirely entitled to it. There are tonnes of people who give out about him and they would have no idea why. It's almost become as natural as breathing.

But since y'all ran Ducky off, none of them post here.

Make a list of all the principal big tech companies , US news outlets etc, their budgets etc and put a red or blue beside each one.

They do own the media, for the most part. Lots more options if your a soma addicted zombie like you and your buddies.

People, thankfully, aren't quite retarded enough to take them seriously

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 08, 2021, 11:52:30 AM
But since y'all ran Ducky off, none of them post here.

You're essentially Ducky with a larger vocabulary.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 08, 2021, 11:52:30 AM
But since y'all ran Ducky off, none of them post here.
Ducky hasn't flown off. His wing was severely clipped but he still lurks these boards.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on January 08, 2021, 11:57:01 AM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 08, 2021, 11:52:30 AM
But since y'all ran Ducky off, none of them post here.


You're essentially Ducky with a larger vocabulary.



That was the following morning, 'I'm not interestrd in seeing you again' cold  :laugh:

Quote from: Pedrito on January 08, 2021, 12:04:04 PM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on January 08, 2021, 11:57:01 AM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 08, 2021, 11:52:30 AM
But since y'all ran Ducky off, none of them post here.

I respect the intellect, but fume at the 'what do you mean by this, I'm just a poor auld crátur so if I don't understand you, you must be a crank soweee'!!


You're essentially Ducky with a larger vocabulary.



That was the following morning, 'I'm not interestrd in seeing you again' cold  :laugh:

Serious question for pedrito and Caomhaoin.
What do ye thing is so good about trumpelstilskin?

Quote from: Caomhaoin on January 08, 2021, 11:57:01 AM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 08, 2021, 11:52:30 AM
But since y'all ran Ducky off, none of them post here.

You're essentially Ducky with a larger vocabulary.

I almost never agreed with Ducky in these threads; though we were more or less facing the same direction, he was as reliable a source of unconfirmed liberal bias as you are of unconfirmed conservative bias. Maybe he now posts in a mirror equivalent of this forum, where there's a strong contingent of card-carrying BLM supporters, a handful of moderate-conservatives, and one Proud Boy who gets piled-on every time he posts.

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Quote from: blessed1 on January 08, 2021, 12:16:10 PM
Serious question for pedrito and Caomhaoin.
What do ye thing is so good about trumpelstilskin?

It's not Trump per se. He could be anyone else. What fucks me off is how the minute someone comes along with some ideas or a personality that aren't deemed acceptable, the alarm bells go off, the propoganda machine is turned on and they are smashed repeatedly from all sides of the mainstream. The man never stood a chance, though he gave it his best. He's far from perfect, but he's not satan and that's what they'd have you believe.

So, essentially, the message goes out that you need to think and act a certain way or you'll be left out to rot. We see it constantly in these big tech companies, we are seeing it all throughout our media. The minute you open your mouth and say things that aren't deemed 'acceptable' you are a pariah. It used be that the Catholic church held that power over society. Now it's the media, big tech, liberal woke left. A dangerous road we're going down.