Here! A bit of balance in the national media. Will wonders never cease?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-40081700.html

Have to say I agree with every point made there, especially that shit McConkey saying we could never return to normal life. Have a think about that one for a bit and ask why that narrative is allowed on national radio with no counter argument and then ask why that prick is seen as the arbiter of our futures. Who elected this bollix? Yes that's right - No one. Have a look at his and Luke O' Neill's entirely unchallenged predictions which have been taken as gospel even after being proved entirely wrong by a factor of 60 and ask why they are not being vilified in the media instead of lauded? I don't know but mass incompetence doesn't cut it. Something along the lines of private interests being allowed to drive public policies seems closer to the crux of the matter. Their profit will be all of our loss.

#2191 November 14, 2020, 06:42:48 PM Last Edit: November 14, 2020, 06:48:01 PM by astfgyl
It's creeping in....

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425

And fuck it here's a bit more for 90% of the world to ignore but fair play to this fella:


https://youtu.be/ZpOzHHJmy7g


Quote from: astfgyl on November 14, 2020, 06:42:48 PM
And fuck it here's a bit more for 90% of the world to ignore but fair play to this fella:


https://youtu.be/ZpOzHHJmy7g


Youtube deleted his video that you posted last month.

Good to see he's still at it. Have you seen any links for that panic paper he talks about?

#2194 November 15, 2020, 08:04:56 AM Last Edit: November 15, 2020, 08:09:18 AM by Nazgûl
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/12/covid-infections-in-sweden-surge-dashing-hopes-of-herd-immunity

Sweden doesn't seem to be doing too well lads.

Meanwhile parts of Australia are having raves and rugby matches, after strict lockdowns.

Quote from: Nazgûl on November 15, 2020, 08:04:56 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/12/covid-infections-in-sweden-surge-dashing-hopes-of-herd-immunity

Sweden doesn't seem to be doing too well lads.

Meanwhile parts of Australia are having raves and rugby matches, after strict lockdowns.

Watch out for the spin. There are a lot of folks desperate for Sweden to do badly, and all of them have money to make from it. The media have been trying to demonise Sweden's approach for a long time. I meant to do it yesterday but I'll go hopping off the figures later and have a real look at how it is going for them. Even things like numbers in hospital have to be pulled apart these days. I had a look at some great info around the Irish hospital figures lately as well which I'll also get back to, but to say they are a bit misleading is a massive understatement. They are extremely misleading. Can't give the hour or so collating it all this minute though.

Also, Australia is being held up as the poster boy for lockdowns, when the actual story is that they are coming into their summer and the thing would naturally die back there just as it did here when we were all out doing what we liked for the summer. Amazing how the media is able to ignore that glaring fact that in opposing hemispheres, the seasons are also opposing. Simply amazing stuff.

Never thought I'd end up wishing I lived in Taiwan  :laugh:

#2197 November 15, 2020, 01:24:45 PM Last Edit: November 15, 2020, 02:39:52 PM by astfgyl
Well I used to think Canada would be cool...

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1327759386916368387.html

And a video here which will probably soon disappear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpfmKQz4FXc&ab_channel=ZN

Unfortunately the subtitles are auto and not the best, but they are not insurmountable


#2199 November 15, 2020, 03:34:35 PM Last Edit: November 15, 2020, 04:39:38 PM by astfgyl
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on November 15, 2020, 02:43:35 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on November 14, 2020, 10:48:39 AM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on November 13, 2020, 11:06:32 PM
Lad, fuck off! It's Friday night...  :laugh:

I know. I'm gone to shit :(
Yer alright...  ;)

I actually ended up rounding off the night with a few mushies to get meself back right once I realised what day of the week it was!

Anyway, not like me to be banging the drum or anything but here is the White Paper authored and signed by several doctors and experts in Ireland. Look out for it being discredited in the media any day soon:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/clouddrive/share/4zGBVyaA7KDmYfg0KhF3rJfEkJlVPskDJW5ySqQZuDj/jjySVTbdTiyeizFtwFo4QA?_encoding=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0&mgh=1

And I said I'd get back to Sweden and I will, but here  is the worldometers page for deaths and infections. Note how the deaths do not track the scale of infections and in fact seem to be tapering off again while the infections graph goes up and up. Now if this thing had the IFR that we are being frightened into believing in the media it would stand to reason that the number of daily deaths should be increasing at a relative rate. But there it isn't.

I will go away and look at their hospital admissions and ICU occupancy now and attempt to compare it with whatever data I can find for previous years and hopefully for respiratory infections as that gives a much clearer picture of whether what is happening now can be considered to be in the normal range or not. Sweden is the elephant in the room and a real thorn in the side of all of the countries who chose to lock down, as the Swedish constitution does not allow for lockdown and therefore any measures must be by consent. This is the reason there are always stories of how wrong it is going there as it going well there is very bad business for lockdown proponents and to those who would profit from such. I'll be back.

Edit: Quick chart here not the greatest detail but shows what little point there is comparing raw figures for Sweden with the likes of Norway and Finland to show how badly they are doing as the media are so fond of pushing

https://twitter.com/markoftec/status/1328002225751412736/photo/1

Twitter not best source for anything but as a rapid indicator it works

Ok lads, watch all this clip, then tell me this is all still about a virus and tell me that it is only coincidence that Build Back Better is the slogan of Joe Biden, Boris Johnson and now Justin Trudeau. This is getting more and more obvious. Headed by the IMF and World Bank and facilitated by the UN, WEF and WHO, none of which are elected and yet are setting the agenda for the whole world in much the same way that the unelected NPHET are setting the bar for life here in Ireland. The opportunity for a reset indeed.. I dunno about the rest of you here but I can see this is no longer conspiracy theory, it is now conspiracy fact. I fucking knew something smelled off with all of this for a long time
QuoteConspiracy /kənˈspɪrəsi/ noun a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
i.e. mass forced vaccination. And although you may all think I'm being paranoid, just watch what happens next; mandatory vaccinations, digital health passport, cashless society, police states, increased surveillance, censorship of the internet and sooner than later our very own social credit system. Just fucking watch.


https://youtu.be/n2fp0Jeyjvw

Off with their heads..!!

You know that conspiracies built on the idea that "cashless" is inherently bad all stem from the verses in Revelations about "the mark of the Beast"?

Revelations 13:16-18
QuoteIt also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.

You're staking your bets with fundamentalists caught in the ultimate paradox of trying to resist "the end times" while also committed to the idea that these are the condition for the second coming. I was raised on this horseshit. You have the conspiracies of these nuts rolled up with that other favourite conspiracy of the right wing, that Communism is coming to get us. Oh look, top voted comment on that video:
QuoteHe's imposing communism. He should be arrested and tried.

I'm sure whatever's coming isn't going to be great, but there's still a helluva lot of absolute horseshit that needs to be systematically filtered out before you can even consider that you're getting anywhere near any heart, let alone truth, of the matter.

#2203 November 15, 2020, 06:58:36 PM Last Edit: November 15, 2020, 08:06:46 PM by astfgyl
Oh I try to stay away from the biblical side of things because it can be made to fit in with too many different outcomes. The outcomes I see are the ones I mentioned up there ( mandatory vaccinations, digital health passport, cashless society, police states, increased surveillance, censorship of the internet and sooner than later our very own social credit system.). Who knows maybe some people will like it that way. There are too many red flags for me now and it all began when I saw an ad for the WEF's Great Reset. Then I started noticing how many seemingly unconnected people started using the Build Back Better slogan, then Time Magazine ran The Great Reset as it's cover story and now Trudeau is using all of the buzz words associated with what I've mentioned. Imran Khan is at the BBB as well. So no, not aligning with the Revelations crowd, just throwing out what I can see coming myself.  It's unfortunate for me that I don't get to source the stuff from more mainstream places or that the mark of the beast crowd are all over the comments sections but I have to go with what I have to hand.

Edit: I think the cashless society is a bit of a dead end argument anyway as the paper money is only fiat currency anyway and isn't really worth the paper it's printed on when we get down to it.

I'm just saying that all the conspiracy theories around the Great Reset are the same tropes I've heard repeated since the 80s. In the 70s the same people thought Henry Kissinger was the actual antichrist. That letter from that archbishop to Trump is cut from exactly the same cloth. Ultimately, they all trace back to the one world government, pre WWII theories. Either people back then were enormously prescient, but at the same time terrible with dates, or else it's just drawing concrete specific patterns from vagueness, just like reading your horoscope and being persuaded it fits your week down to a tee.