Perhaps I overstated my level of concern. As far as I'm willing to go is to use the name. You don't really gender someone while talking to them directly. That's sufficient to not cause any upset. I was pointing at facts not expressing a heartfelt desire to fix them all.  I had almost no opinion on the matter until they announced that the lunacy was being pushed on children.

Trans racial surgeries should be fun once they get going. The pre surgery whites and asians insisting on being referred to as black will really stir the pot. Or black people looking to be called cracker and having their mickeys shortened for some of that sweet privilege. Trans species could be interesting too. Or something out of the leftfield altogether like having all the fingers removed or getting the nose or ears took off or the teeth removed because one feels like they should have been born without them.

World will be fucking mad in 20 years, but I guess the same could have been said 20 years ago.

Quote from: hellfire on April 19, 2021, 10:23:23 AM
As things currently stand there is no known biological cause for it.  The causes of homosexuality are pretty poorly understood too.

Some people really like cats.

Some people really like the colour blue.

Some people really like dick.

Simple as that, no?

Quote from: astfgyl on April 19, 2021, 05:51:00 PM
Or something out of the leftfield altogether like having all the fingers removed or getting the nose or ears took off or the teeth removed because one feels like they should have been born without them.

Not that left field at all...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S092493381600290X

Quote from: Giggles on April 19, 2021, 05:59:34 PM
Quote from: hellfire on April 19, 2021, 10:23:23 AM
As things currently stand there is no known biological cause for it.  The causes of homosexuality are pretty poorly understood too.

Some people really like cats.

Some people really like the colour blue.

Some people really like dick.

Simple as that, no?

Yup, was just saying that they never really found a reason for it.

Quote from: hellfire on April 19, 2021, 06:32:58 PM
Quote from: Giggles on April 19, 2021, 05:59:34 PM
Quote from: hellfire on April 19, 2021, 10:23:23 AM
As things currently stand there is no known biological cause for it.  The causes of homosexuality are pretty poorly understood too.

Some people really like cats.

Some people really like the colour blue.

Some people really like dick.

Simple as that, no?

Yup, was just saying that they never really found a reason for it.


Quote from: Trev on April 19, 2021, 06:16:05 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on April 19, 2021, 05:51:00 PM
Or something out of the leftfield altogether like having all the fingers removed or getting the nose or ears took off or the teeth removed because one feels like they should have been born without them.

Not that left field at all...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S092493381600290X

Ah I'm fuckin years behind...

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on April 19, 2021, 06:39:29 PM
Quote from: hellfire on April 19, 2021, 06:32:58 PM
Quote from: Giggles on April 19, 2021, 05:59:34 PM
Quote from: hellfire on April 19, 2021, 10:23:23 AM
As things currently stand there is no known biological cause for it.  The causes of homosexuality are pretty poorly understood too.

Some people really like cats.

Some people really like the colour blue.

Some people really like dick.

Simple as that, no?

Yup, was just saying that they never really found a reason for it.



The old Satan and dick combo.


Not to stir the pot too much, but is there any need really to understand the cause of homosexuality or gender dysphoria? Like would that lead to a cure or something? Would these folks want to be fixed? I doubt it.

Would I want to be cured if there was a cure for cynicism, for example? No I wouldn't. Or if I could be fixed from left handedness, no as well. But the wheels turn slowly and it's probably more important that people learn to accept themselves rather than roaring at the world to accept them.  We will all get there eventually if we take enough yokes.

Honestly I think we were more progressive 20 years ago in terms of acceptance of others and with basically all of the things in this thread. The only possible explanation that comes to mind is that social media has us all gone demented and as a species we were far better off when we were not all connected, or at least not as intensely so. I'd know fuck all about this PC and offended brigade if not for social media. It makes everything seem far more prevalent than it actually is.

Like here we are giving pages on about transsexuals and nearly all of us know about one or none of them and I get caught up in it all as much as anyone and we all know fuck all


Quote from: astfgyl on April 19, 2021, 11:26:28 PM
Not to stir the pot too much, but is there any need really to understand the cause of homosexuality or gender dysphoria? Like would that lead to a cure or something? Would these folks want to be fixed? I doubt it.

I agree with you. I've never in my life heard of people looking for a "cause" for homosexuality, or describing it as a disorder.

Especially coming from a group of lads who (I'm assuming the vast majority of us) grew up in a Catholic Ireland where we were actively encouraged by church, by law, and by society to not be gay. How about that for disorder?

Yeah I thought it was just accepted that some people are different to others and as long as they are not hurting anyone by being themselves then what's the problem? This is why I think society has gone backwards in many ways.

As much as I abhor what the left has become synonymous with, I'm still a liberal in my own way.

It's all a social media distraction. The world keeps on turning.

Dawkins has had his humanist award revoked 15 years after the fact. Could have told them years ago that he was in fact a dick.