The PC and Perpetually Offended Brigade

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Have the CNN take, just to further annoy Kev :p
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/11/media/tucker-carlson-mocks-military-women/index.html

[Ollkiller]

He said that America is feminising its army, making it a laughing stock with pregnancy suits etc.

Tucker with his finger on the pulse of the nation right there. A nothing story.

[Caomhaoin]

He has a point though. The Chinese and Russians must be bursting their holes laughing at all this guff.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

He has a point though. The Chinese and Russians must be bursting their holes laughing at all this guff.

Why? They both have women in the military too.

[astfgyl]

[Caomhaoin]

He has a point though. The Chinese and Russians must be bursting their holes laughing at all this guff.

Why? They both have women in the military too.

I mean the identity politics. If you read about Stalingrad from the German point of view, Antony Beevors' effort is an excellent starting point, you'll see why women in combat is not a good idea.

[Blackout]

Stick them on the front line.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

He has a point though. The Chinese and Russians must be bursting their holes laughing at all this guff.

Why? They both have women in the military too.

I mean the identity politics. If you read about Stalingrad from the German point of view, Antony Beevors' effort is an excellent starting point, you'll see why women in combat is not a good idea.

I'm not saying anything about whether women should be in combat or not. I just don't see how he has a point. Russia was a trailblazer in terms of women in combat, as I guess you're implying. If they're bursting their holes laughing, it's more likely at the fact that a self-proclaimed patriot would go on air and mock the armed forces of his own country, regardless of the reason. That is something a Chinese or Russian person would find absolutely absurd and unbelievable. He is such an utter fucking tool.

[Caomhaoin]

I don't see it that he's mocking the armed forces per se, it's a critique (granted, not a very elegant one) of replacing ability with identity as the priority for selection.

Take the Navy Seals, for example. One of the most elite units in the US army, comparable with Spesnatz or the SAS. No woman has ever completed the training. It's simply above and beyond what females (and the vast majority of men) are capable of physically and psychologically. Now, these extreme standards are 'under review', because no woman has ever become a navy seal. This is a stupid idea, and you are smart enough that an explanation is not required. Women are not capable of achieving what men can in certain walks of life, no matter what the Spanish republican or soviet poster artists would have one believe.

As for the Soviets being trailblazers...they shot 16,000 of their own men at Stalingrad for 'cowardice', and they sent frail, underfed women out to dig tank traps and man unwieldy flak guns, almost all of which were swatted away instantly by battle hardened German soldiers. They sent men in waves without ammunition but with a generous ration of vodka against Finnish machine gun nests in the winter war, so the welfare of their soldiers and empowering women were far down the list of priorities.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

All fair enough, but not really helping his "point"; on what basis does he claim that the Russians and Chinese would be laughing at the US? None. It's just his usual pseudo-jingoism; throw in a few fool-proof "communism" evoking terms to please the gallery, and away we go. People like him would be the real laughing stock to the Russian and Chinese powers that be; a guy who lines his own pockets by criticizing the state on television. And yeah, it's great that in the US you can do that, compared to Russia or China, but of course a tool like him - who has no genuine concern for the national interest, certainly not to any degree that would overtake his personal, pecuniary interests - obviously won't be capable of seeing that it's freedom to become rich off criticizing power that (implicit or explicit) authoritarian states see as the real weakness of the west. He's advertising what he sees as something that enemies of the state, as he sees them, will see as a weakness. The Russians and Chinese will be laughing that he's not in the gulag.

[astfgyl]

There's going to be a bit of offence taken over this lark. Poorly judged by police, but the law is the law apparently.

https://twitter.com/i/events/1370341605983449092

Crazy thing is, all the politicians are now trying to distance themselves from it all and showing no support for police. This will go down badly with all sides, given that cops can't allow gatherings and must enforce such but now also have to decide which peaceful gatherings are more dangerous from the public health perspective, which inevitably becomes a political position and now the politicians won't back them due to the sensitivity of the situation and the high emotions around it all. Not really the PC and whatever thread really but not worth its' own thread either

[Blackout]

If it was peaceful, why did the Police need to "disperse". Covid restrictions? 

[astfgyl]

Yeah covid restrictions. It's funny really that even something like this turns violent. It would almost send me to thinking that maybe people have the right to gather and in fact it's the police who are causing the shit at these protests. But then from the POV of the coppers, they are only following orders and applying the law as it stands. So it is the politicians who are to blame for using a hammer to crack a nut and that maybe life is a bit more nuanced than they think it is..

[son of the Morrigan]

It is absolutely the gards that are causing the fuss at the protests.
Sure all you have to do is compare the recent Dublin protest, where they blocked the road to stop a peaceful march, causing all hell to break loose, to the recent Cork protest, where the protesters were allowed have their march, and the event passed off peacefully.
If one were cynical (which I am), one would be inclined to think the actions of the gards in Dublin were intentionally designed to provoke a response and in doing so, discredit the  anti-restrictions movement.

[Pedrito]

Strong Womaaaan

https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig