#1305 December 31, 2020, 03:58:01 PM Last Edit: January 02, 2021, 12:40:06 AM by Carnage
Knife in his hand, fuck him. Fair game.

I see the 'he was troubled/had mental health issues' bollocks has already been trotted out.

I lived out in West Dublin for a good while and it's depressing at the best of times. Great to hear our ghettoisation projects have worked so well. Who would have thought a complete lack of any foresight, planning and following EU directives to the letter would have led to gangs of 2nd generation kids pulling place to bits. As if it wasn't bad enough with a rare breed of local bred scumbags to contend with.

Videos going around of the 'protestors' kicking the shit out of passersby too.

https://streamable.com/6qwvzw

Fuck sake. It was only a matter of time before the ghetto project that was the celtic tiger came back to bite us. Pushing thousands of immigrants into areas that have nothing but houses was always going to result in disaster and now the bullshit begins.

#1309 December 31, 2020, 04:42:30 PM Last Edit: December 31, 2020, 04:46:33 PM by astfgyl
It's actually amazing how the same method of shoving thousands of people out to suburban wastelands yields the same results on both sides of the Atlantic. Who'd have thunk it?

Imagine thousands of disenfranchised people trying to express their anger at their lot by banding together against the first available target. Sure it's definitely all about the lad who got shot isn't it

Well we had plenty warning from the UK and the dickheads runing the place thought they knew better as usual. Add to that every second twat trying to make a quick buck during the CEltic Tiger. Arrogance, hubris or just plain old being fucking thick. It's not the ordinary joe that wanted it though, forced upon us.

It's actually nuts how many times that tiger has come back and bitten us in the hole. Bitten everyone except those responsible. We use them to govern us as their punishment.

This shit has travelled from the US all of the way to our own doorsteps and we are too apathetic as a country to do anything about it. It won't be long until gun crime becomes very prevelant here.

Quote from: Blackout on December 31, 2020, 05:08:46 PM
This shit has travelled from the US all of the way to our own doorsteps and we are too apathetic as a country to do anything about it. It won't be long until gun crime becomes very prevelant here.
Yep, this shit happing now will invariably lead to the quickening of the Guards being armed.
Imagine, all those years with the Paramilitaries and whatnot, and it's this shit that will lead to an armed police force in this country.

Quote from: astfgyl on December 31, 2020, 04:42:30 PM
It's actually amazing how the same method of shoving thousands of people out to suburban wastelands yields the same results on both sides of the Atlantic. Who'd have thunk it?

Imagine thousands of disenfranchised people trying to express their anger at their lot by banding together against the first available target. Sure it's definitely all about the lad who got shot isn't it

It's not a matter of racism or systemic racism though. More likely a predictable and regrettable side effect of Ireland's culture of low level government corruption and white collar crime in general.

Having black people protesting about racist guards is at best ludicrous and laughable and at worst is likely to create more problems without solving any of the actual existing ones. In my view, at least.

I guess it's also a case of precedent. There have been less than a dozen shooting fatalities by gardai response units over the last 30 years or so, most of which - from what I can gather - involved a firearm-holding target or a target accompanying a firearm-holding target. In other words, while this shooting in Blanchardstown may not be entirely unprecedented (don't know where you'd find the data to definitively confirm), the historical norm for gardai response units when dealing with situations like this has not been fatal shootings. You can't actually draw any real meaningful conclusions from such low numbers, but looking at things with a hot head you can end up at, "white criminals only get shot when they have guns, this black guy got shot even though he only had a knife."

White guys generally drop their knives when there's a shitload of guns pointed at them.

Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on December 31, 2020, 06:59:28 PM
White guys generally drop their knives when there's a shitload of guns pointed at them.

You could almost say you'd have to be mad not to!

He slashed the person in the Spar. Attackd someone else. 90 minutes standoff with the guards asking him to drop his weapon and they shot him when he lunged at a Ban Garda. Beat his missus in the face with a hammer and attacked an elderly woman in the street all in the last few weeks. They couldn't shoot the cunt enough times.

Quote from: Pedrito on December 31, 2020, 07:11:51 PM
He slashed the person in the Spar. Attackd someone else. 90 minutes standoff with the guards asking him to drop his weapon and they shot him when he lunged at a Bean Garda. Beat his missus in the face with a hammer and attacked an elderly woman in the street all in the last few weeks. They couldn't shoot the cunt enough times.

Whether in street terms he "deserved" it or not, isn't relevant to how the justice system and its enforcement works though. Precedent, to some extent, however, is. Sure, he may well have even been wanting them to kill him at the point that they did, but even that wouldn't be relevant to evaluating what happened.