The PC and Perpetually Offended Brigade

[astfgyl]

What blue tick bollix? Give me an example

Why can't the likes of The Guardian's opinions hold up in the face of a bit of disagreement? It was an obviously politically biased move on their part and it's a shame because I enjoyed that paper up to a few years ago before they got so obvious.

As for King, I think it's a pity that he's so outspoken about all this because there's likely many people who will miss out on his books over it who simply don't care about his political views one way or another.

Jack Dorsey banned Trump. Musk didn't ban Harris or Biden even though he had a personal interest in getting his feet under Trump's table.

What way was he dishonest about it actually? I don't like the cunt but you might as well give an example instead of regurgitating The Guardian style talking points

They didn't complain when Jack Dorsey was making the site biased towards Biden did they? No, they never said anything about it because it aligned with their own views but in my own view, censorship like that is always wrong even when I agree with what's promoted.

Authoritarianism never appealed to me, and I dislike things as much as the next fellow but I'm not fragile enough to think the crushing of dissent is a good thing.

Shining a light on things is better than pretending they don't exist and I think the general lurch towards more right wing views on a lot of cases can be directly blamed on it going too far the other way up to now. It's reactionary and I'd love to see a bit more centrism in general but now people are just digging their heels in and the conditions were right for a yoke like trump to reappear.

Now I see folk on the right celebrating potential forthcoming authoritarianism as if it's grand when it agrees with them and it's back to square one again, with the likes of Bluesky being another Gab effort with opposite leanings.

Nobody has really learned anything from what I can see.

Thank god for funny cats, I suppose...

And retro gaming too, I've been filling my feed with that lately as well. And old photography and accounts that don't lean one way or the other or if they do, I don't know about it.

Didn't buy myself a blue tick either because I don't really have anything to say on there that I feel needs amplifying

[Sworntothecans]

Lot of folks leave because despite muting all the far right shite it'll still turn up on your feed.

Old Twitter used to be a bit of fun but fucking hell it's a cesspit of constant Bitcoin/invest bro/gambling ads spam or some horrid cunt spouting racist shit.

[Born of Fire]

There's nobody forcing anyone to read political shite if they don't want to, that's all simply in people's heads.

Ah I dunno about that. I don't follow anyone on my account, I have never clicked like on any post and my for you page always pushes spastics like that Mick O'Keefe lad. Blue tick comments pushed to the top are usually either porn/violent content bots or the terminally online mongs.

As you said you can try get rid of this by being active on the "not interested" button and making sure to follow accounts you do like to try and encourage more positive content but my experience with a totally blank account has been that you get pushed this right v left bollixology by default.

[astfgyl]

Honestly if I hadn't already been on there and following a lot of things I liked, I'd have stayed away. I get those things as well on my For You but a bit of mute and don't interact and it soon reverts back to things you like.

The algorithm is designed to make you interact so I just stopped interaction with things that infuriate me as well.

Won't apply to you if you don't follow anything, but the following tab is right there as well.

My television has the TLC channel on it which is surely the worst possible entertainment but all I have to do is not watch it and it's not there then.

I just like the format really, and usually use it as a starting point for reading interesting things. I used to have things like Derek Blighe cropping up but I just don't interact and if I keep getting it, I use the three dots menu and see it off. Like the last thing I was reading was stuff from the CIA reading room about trying to get a lad do remote viewing of Mars a million years ago. No political bent to it, just fun reading

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

You still weren't able to give a single reason why any entity who doesn't want to generate revenue for Musk should stay on 'X' and continue to do so.

I don't think there'll be any convincing you, even in light of the Democrats accepting the latest election result (as anyone with an eye on reality as opposed to both sides denialism knew they would) in total contrast to MAGA's behavior 4 years ago, but in the context Twitter banned Trump he had actually gone beyond the political pale to an absolutely unprecedented level and had used Twitter to help him amplify absolute falsehood to millions. Musk uses his account in the same way, amplifying pure falsehood left, right and centre. Fuck him and let the exodus continue: nobody owes his platform any loyalty or anything at all.

[astfgyl]

So not giving me any examples of my blue tick talking points then?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The notion that people are quitting because they can't handle disagreement or pushback is a way of distracting attention from the over-riding and numerous other directly Musk-related reasons people have for wanting to quit. If, in a pro-Musk blue tick manner, someone wanted to make it not about Musk, they'd claim it was because these accounts simply can't handle disagreement. I don't think that is the reason at all. I think it's because they're sick of Musk very, very, very blatantly gaming the system in the direction of his own politics. Politics which are objectively more radical (i.e. MAGA) than "the other side" (again, see MAGA 2020 election result response vs DNC 2024 election result response as just one example, but an example which speaks much louder than both-siders want to admit). Anyone who saw MAGA's rejection of the 2020 results, then MAGA's preparation to reject the 2024 results if and only if they didn't go their way, and then DNC's immediate acceptance of the 2024 results... yet still both-sides this thing is, or has let themselves become, soft in the head quite frankly. DNC bad, MAGA worse, and Musk = MAGA's loudest mouthpiece.

[astfgyl]

I was straight on about the Democrats reaction to the loss and said I was wrong in thinking they'd say something about it so that doesn't apply to me.

How is what they're doing not simply throwing their toys out of the pram now that the overall political bent of the thing is not their own politics?

Again, where was any of this said when Jack Dorsey was using it to benefit the left because of his own politics?

I'll tell you where it was, it was with the lads who sulked off and joined Gab and Truth Social and they were sulking then just as the leftists are sulking now but the leftists think that gaming the system towards their beliefs is right and proper but not when it goes the other way.

Anyway, it's not like people can't just go on whatever Internet they want and have themselves fortified that way if that's what feels good for them. I wouldn't even know they were going or gone only they made such a show of fucking off. Trying to make on that it's something more profound than being a sulk though is laughable.

Musk is after buying a spot in government for 44 billion, trump is back in the white House, politics is as divided as it ever was. None of that is good but I'm still tipping away reading things I do like so after the initial shock of a timeline full of mad shit to get me to disagree and engage I just tidied it up no big deal.

All the Social sites have a shelf life anyway and people will simply get bored and go to something else eventually

[Emphyrio]

Lads, arguing over the pros and cons of Twitter is totally pointless. I learned a long time ago, that it is totally removed from the real world so whether something upsets you or falls completely in line with your thinking, it is just a waste of time. I have never been a twitter user but seeing other people's tweets designed to elicit a reaction... it's easy to get riled up. Until it dawned on me that it is a world unto itself and actually doesn't represent reality.

[astfgyl]

Ah yeah you're right there. None of the socials are representative of real life. Just look at the way people we've met in real life act on them vs the version we'd bump into down the shops or wherever. At the end of the day none of the things we see amplified on there even come up in most conversations. Usually it's just sport, music and how's life etc with a load of slagging and laughing.

Funnily enough I don't use them to connect with people I know in real life at all, just to read shit

[Emphyrio]

Like just looking at stupid shit that I was getting annoyed by towards the start of the thread, none of it has impacted me in reality. It's easy enough to get annoyed by shit day to day, I just think you're needlessly drawing it on yourself even engaging with Twitter. I've no doubt it had its uses previously but by the sounds of it you have to put too much effort to moderate your page/profile/whatever you call it.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

So why the emotional investment over accounts quitting it astfyl?

I'd love to see the place crumble around Musk. I'd also love to see his place crumble around Zuckerberg, despite also using that. I don't really get the mindset of being anything other than joyful at the prospect of either of those things happening to either of those grossly wealthy pricks of individuals, regardless of what brought it about. Musk and Trump really have pulled off something in convincing the wet behind the ears that either of them are anything different to the Zuckerbergs, Gateses, Clintons, etc.: anything other than "the man", "the system."

[astfgyl]

So why the emotional investment over accounts quitting it astfyl?

I'd love to see the place crumble around Musk. I'd also love to see his place crumble around Zuckerberg, despite also using that. I don't really get the mindset of being anything other than joyful at the prospect of either of those things happening to either of those grossly wealthy pricks of individuals, regardless of what brought it about. Musk and Trump really have pulled off something in convincing the wet behind the ears that either of them are anything different to the Zuckerbergs, Gateses, Clintons, etc.: anything other than "the man", "the system."

There are genuine people on there who think that Musk combining with Trump is some sort of victory for freedom and all that shit but that's because there are always going to be people like that who can't just look at that for how disgusting it is, without thinking that their favourite big business supporting politicians are somehow better than the other bought off crowd.

I've no emotional investment over folks leaving twitter for their politics. I might get a brief laugh at their sulking but I'll forget all about them as quick as anything while I'm looking at stuff that interests me like feeds from Curiosity Rover or 90s Soccer. It's not like I was following any of them anyway no more than following Musk or Trump, although admittedly Musk always seems to find a way into my feed whether I engage or not.

I do see that Bluesky had it's largest number of complaints and reports in a single day the other day though so they must be getting somewhat popular. Good for them.

[astfgyl]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham-rodrigo-bentancur-ban-son-heung-min-b2646540.html

Back to the regular stuff here. My favourite part is how nobody was offended and both parties said so, but the show must go on regardless. I see the whole team is lined up for re-education as a result. Not to teach them to be better people or anything like that, just so they can learn not to say things at all, ever

[astfgyl]

And now the other side of the coin, we have people complaining that the new Snow White actress has made some sort of comment that has all the people who complain about woke stuff baying for her blood.

Pathetic the way as soon as the tables are turned, that so many instantly become the exact thing they've been complaining about and participate in the exact cancel culture they purport to be against on principle.

So she said something..

So fucking what?